PLEASE keep making stand alone programs for those of us who are hobbyists and enjoy the results we get from LR. I do not use/nor want PS or other editing programs and CC would be a waste of money for me. Again, please continue stand alone programs.
Will there be at least an LR 7?
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Adobe hasn't announced either way yet, and no one who knows the answer is at liberty to share that information until there's an official announcement I'm afraid.
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My opinion is that they will continue to offer the standalone product for exactly the reason Laura states...some (many) photographers want the power of Lr but don't want or need Ps. Losing those customers (some who would eventually want or need Ps) would be silly.
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Steve, i hope you are right. I'd love to continue using stand alone LR!
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The problem though for Adobe extends beyond Lightroom 7 it includes people like me who shoot both stills and video, Elements doesn't cover it. So without access to Premier and After Effects I have turned elsewhere and the problem with that is that once you break the "Adobe Habit", On1 Raw, Affinity Photo, Resolve and even Blender become your new tool set.
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The confusion caused by the move to subscription based products has been frustrating. I have been using LR since v3 and really, really like it. I have no desire to switch or find a replacement and I would not even be thinking about alternatives except they keep making me feel uneasy about the future. I would like them to find a way to alleviate my concerns.
To me that would be a clear statement that they will continue to offer standalone LR or at least declaring that they would offer a long lead time before support is dropped.
In the mean time I'll keep being a happy LR user and try not to spend too much time looking at alternatives. My preference is to not spend any time looking at alternatives but the unease I feel means sometimes I do.
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Basically, henceforth, you can rent Lightroom, but you can't buy it. (You can still buy Lightroom 6, but it won't be developed or maintained. At some point in the future, some features are going to stop working or are going to stop being compatible with new operating systems or external services like Blurb or Google Maps.)
This is a terrible shame.
Adobe, you've let us down by no longer continuing to develop a stand-alone, non-subscription version of Lightroom.
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It's not a good sub for what I want as it stands as it won't do my uploads to Flickr from within the programme.
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One thing I find frustrating about ON1 is their web site offers next to no information unless you sign up / download a trial. Since I am not ready for that yet I have no idea what information they have on their web site and have been learning about the program via other site.
Capture 1 Pro does have a catalogue (and a lighter weight solution called sessions that some people prefer). Capture 1 also has lots of information on their web site about how the program works and its features. Plus an active user forum for discussing the program: https://forum.phaseone.com/En/viewforum.php?f=24
On top of that subscription and perpetual licenses are both first class citizens in their store so right there much better than Adobe's policy ever was.
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It's just a shameful stategy. You kids of today doesn't even seem to understand. It's great to pay a monthly fee for a bunch of software you didn't ask for instead. You ger regular updates and all that. I'm quite proffessional user of PS, but use the CS4 version and it's a PS that handles all the things I have need for. The same goes for Illustrator CS4. Both those CS4 versions i fully capable of doing most of the tasks you need. Don't even know about additional functions. Some of them are problably great but with a normal use I don't seem to need them. The CS4 license was paid for more than 10 years ago and will work fine until som drastic OS-change in the future.
I really appreciate LR and am using a 5-licence. Was waiting for a stand-alone LR7, as I heard there was some issues with the 6-version, and that didn't happen. From my point of view it's just a way to go deeper into my wallet than there's an actual need for.
A bit worried installing LR6 as I've read about errors in reading key words (especially with swedish chars) and that the program seems to take up way too much CPU. Don't know about those things an hestitate.
Anyone here with experience? Is LR6 using more CPU than LR5? Is there a risk an installation will corrupt my registered key words and connected references to pictures?
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As for key wording my keywords from LR5 work perfectly in LR6. Huge caveat though I use only English chars and no accented or special characters so I cannot speak to any issues LR6 might have with that.
Having said all that - why go to LR6? LR is a dead end to you now that they have abandoned us perpetual license users. Why not just switch to another tool? That is my plan - I'm just not doing it now - which is the beauty of perpetual licensing. I can choose my timetable to change.
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Thanks Ian. After my LR5 purchase I scanned all my old DIAs and negatives and around 10.000 pics are now tagged in the LR archive. It's a perfect tool to keep track on your images and I did all that work. That's the reason I hoped for a stand-alone LR7 and spared the LR6-version at first. In that one the only thing that would be great to use is the RAW HD function, otherwise I thought of having the last stand-alone installed as long as it works. From that point, if Adobe didn't change their politics and realase new stand-alone versions, I look for another tool.
As far as I know there's no tool at the present market that will adapt the full LR archive as well as settings of indivudual photos. Some archive patch would be possible I guess but probably not a transfer of editing made in LR.
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Looks great John.
So the representation in LR's PlugIn Extras is result of the installation of the trial version or is it a third party solution installed before? In the video he starts from LR CC and I have LR5 at the moment. Guess that works fine as well?
I also undertand it as - if you like to migrate specific edit settings from LR - you will get one RAW copy (if that's the original format) and the a duplicate with the former LR adjustments?
Anyway It's a comfort ON1 exists already. I will wait a while and use my working LR5 (don't know if I will install the LR6 yet) as long as possible. Now I know where to go when it's time. I been around too long to accept programs 'for hire'. My bundle of CS4 programs is still all I need to perform advanced editing. Payed for 10 years ago! :)
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The impact of Adobe going subscription only might be that they become a 'pro brand only' as they already have effectively with After Effects and Premier Pro but does it matter ? Adobe leaves behind a useful legacy for stills and graphic images that has been incorporated and made compatible in their programs by many others in terms of the .psd and .DNG file formats so why worry ?
We have to accept that even in the Open Source Community software can stagnate or go in a direction we don't like but even then, your camera manufacturer will supply you with a RAW converter to good old TIFF, still probably the best long term survivor format and there will always be image editors to work them into a final image for print or the web.
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My post was about when people/companies do things you feel are wrong/unfair/unthinking/whatever you have a duty of care to the world to state what you think and why, so that others in the future can't just make up a new 'truth' about it because there was no evidence to the contrary.
Stand up for your thoughts and share them, even though it mightn't seem to make a difference at the time. Then, move on. And if enough others share your views and make them known, then things might start to change, albeit slowly.
But if you get to the point where you think there's no point complaining, then you're choosing to not make a difference, and just allowing others to be free to trample all over you.
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This forum also serves as Adobe's official feedback channel for Lightroom. Adobe may or may not choose to take the comments here to heart, but they invited us to express our comments about their products here.
Nobody is complaining or moaning. We're providing constructing feedback to a company that has historically sought -- and, often, heeded -- its customers' advice.
Please, let's keep it to that.
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You have to admit they have been pretty passive aggressive towards perpetual license users for some time now - confusing and buried links to upgrade and update programs that likes to install the subscription version for perpetual license users.
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