Why doesn't my version of Photoshop or Lightroom support my camera?

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I just got a new camera and Photoshop and/or Lightroom does not recognize the raw files, has no camera-specific profiles or has some features not enabled. What do I do?
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For a complete overview on camera support in Photoshop and Lightroom, visit the following article:

Why doesn't my version of Photoshop or Lightroom support my camera?

  1. Make sure your version of Photoshop or Lightroom is up-to-date for the latest camera support.
  2. If you own an older version of Photoshop (CS6 or earlier) or Lightroom (5 or earlier), Adobe provides backwards compatibility for the latest cameras through the FREE Adobe DNG Converter.
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Why should I have to convert my CR2 files to DNG when my camera is supported by the up to date Lightroom?
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This string no longer refers to my problem re Lightroom and my Nikon D850. Get with the program Tranberry.
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And maintain two versions of the same picture? (either in two separate files, or have the RAW embedded in the DNG)
I don't think so. Bad workaround.

Lightroom INCLUDING OLDER VERSIONS should be updated with new RAW profiles/formats. The RAW formats reader is a separate engine (hopefully) shared between at least Lightroom and Photoshop. Why can't an older Lightroom not use the newer formats, just like Photoshop can? Just use what's there, and don't impose arbitrary limits.

That, or just update older Lightroom versions as well. Forcing users to BUY an update is an what's known as a dick move.
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> Why can't an older Lightroom not use the newer formats

Because the camera manufacturer's don't use a standardized format for their raw files, unlike, for example, the JPEG format which is recognized regardless of which camera it comes from. Some camera manufacturers do use a standardized format, so even old versions of Lightroom work with their new cameras. You might like to talk to your camera manufacturer about the possibility of them doing the same, since they're the ones you're paying for the new camera.
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I wished Adobe would also provide a converter, converting imported RAW-Files in iPad Pro to DNG.... Lightroom CC for my personal use is virtually useless since I still find JPG files created by my Lumixes are still by far not as good (DR, contrast, sharpness) as the real RAWs produced by those cameras.
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In addition, one should always use the latest version of the DNG converter, (see Jeffrey's link) and the latest version of Camera Raw available for one's Photoshop version.
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And sometimes Adobe does not support a major technology at all, so the latest ACR or DNG converters do not help.

I would like to see Fuji's newest CMOS-EXR sensors supported in ACR so that Photoshop, Elements and Lightroom are all available to die-hard Adobe users. I've tested the new F550EXR extensively and the new sensor is a winner. The RAW files are amazing for a compact with a 1/2" sensor. See http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com for my articles (31 and counting.)

But my all-Adobe work flow is seriously hampered by Fuji's RAW being forced through its proprietary converter first before I move it to ACR6 and then CS5. It's messy and the results, in my opinion, are inferior to what they would be if I could go directly to ACR6 first and then to CS5 Elements 9 or Lightroom 3. As a long time all Adobe user, I and a lot of others would deeply appreciate support for this wonderful new sensor.
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Thanks Kim. That camera is pretty new and looks like it was right on the edge of the 90 day release cycle I discuss in the article I linked to in my answer called "Why doesn't my version of Photoshop or Lightroom support my camera?" so support may still be on the way.

It never hurts to make your request as a separate Idea that folks can vote on it.
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Note to Jeff T.    

New cameras such as the Samsung utilize common file formats such as JPG, TIFF, RAW and will convert RAW to TIFF or JPG in the same usual way.   I searched for newer file formats and most newer cams save images in JPG, RAW or TIFF.   There is no special format on new cams, such as found on Nikon and Canon.   
Converting their file formats is as normal as with the same converter we know.   

Steve Lehman, MCSE   
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Yes, I tried to make mine a separate idea and will again, but I was thwarted on my first try by this web site's confused login state machine.

Meanwhile, the S200EXR has a similar sensor and has never been supported by Adobe. What I am hoping is that Adobe will consider supporting the newer CMOS version of the EXR sensors (unusual pixel-paired bayer-like mask pattern, multiple modes for split sensor, multiple blend technology for dynamic range extension or low noise mode) in ACR as they have spread to five models of camera of which several have RAW support.
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PLEASE add support for samsung nx5 raw file in ACR! It is exactly the same camera, like the supported NX10 - there is difference only in lcd / amoled display, the produced raw (.srw) file is the same (but has different exif model tag) I must edit all pictures exif before I can do somethink with ACR / Photoshop
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Please create a new "Idea" with the request for the Samsung Camera you need so users can vote on it.
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I recently got a new Nikon D7000 DSLR.
I usually use Bridge CS4 to go through my pictures, mark them and send them to Camera Raw for retouching and editing.
At first i noticed D7000 raw files were not supported, and waited for an update from Adobe. When the update arrived i realized it's for CS5 users only.
What this basically means, is that if i want to go on with my regular workflow, to which i am accustomed, i would need to upgrade to CS5.
This makes me furious at Adobe for acting like a bunch of other vicious money-squeezing corporate companies who shall rename nameless.
Furthermore, it makes me furious at myself for going out and paying a lot of money for software which will not provide me with the ability to do my work as time goes by.
It's basically the same as Adobe deciding that if you want to go on opening JPG files, you need to pay more money and upgrade. It's utterly rediculous.
If I was using a really old version like CS1 or CS2, even CS3, maybe i would have accepted this, seeing that Adobe can't really keep all legacy versions up to date.
But i'm using CS4! it's only one version back! i bought the software a little over a year ago, it can't possibly be that this suite will be worth nothing to me after so little time.
Oh, and i've heard about the solution that i can convert the files to generic raw format and then use camera raw, but this is not an acceptable solution. Adobe can't just start adding processes and wasting users' time like this.
Please make sure all new cameras are always supported in camera raw for older versions of CS.

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D7000 NEF Support for CS4.
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While I fully understand and agree that it is most unfortunate that you are forced to pay another couple hundred bucks to upgrade your RAW converter to handle the D7000 RAW files, there are two further points that mitigate your right to complain:

1) A tiny bit of research would have informed you of this before buying the D7000. So complaining after the fact seems somehow hollow.

2) The D5100 is about half the cost of the D7000 with the same IQ and would have allowed your budget to contain the upgrade to CS5 plus another small lens.

The latter point is especially important. You chose to buy the premium consumer body instead of the D90, D5100 or a used D300s, all of which would have allowed you to also get the upgrade to the software. And since software is half the battle, you cannot complain that you want that for free while buying an expensive body like the D7000.

My point being that your argument is very lopsided ... hammering on Adobe for making you pay 200 bucks for a very nice upgrade while giving Nikon a pass for making you pay 1200 bucks for a consumer camera body.
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"...while giving Nikon a pass for making you pay 1200 bucks for a consumer camera body. "

And while giving Nikon a free pass for altering its raw format and not providing DNG as an option.
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Wow. this is just a sad thread. are you all such huge Adobe fans, that any bit of criticism is so unacceptable? I came here trying to get in touch with Adobe to let them know i'm not satisfied, and it's a part of being a smart consumer. You're all reacting as if i'm dissing Adobe for sports.
I'm not supposed to choose my camera according to the software that i will use to edit the files, and i doubt anyone checks this kind of stuff when buying a camera, these things are things you expect from a leading brand product. Adobe are presumably making the leading photo-editing software, so they have a responsibility towards photographers, to keep their software up to date, and compatible with all leading cameras and manufacturers. It's not like i'm using some weird camera by a small brand.
Furthermore, they have a responsibility towards their customers and their users, even ones that have the "ancient" CS4 version they bought "so long ago".
Had Adobe prevented use of nikon's raw format as a policy, maybe i would have blamed Nikon for altering their raw. But I've had several Nikon cameras, and have always used the same software for editing my photos. That should not change if i upgrade my equipment. I accept that it can take time to release an update, and i'm patient. but ignoring CS4 is disappointing.

D5100 is not suitable for my needs as the D7000, and Adobe should not dictate which camera i buy. They should allow support for as many cameras as they can, at least for the last couple of versions of CS.
You're all treating CS4 as if it's obsolete, but people use it. And if i used it for D70s and for a D90, there's no reason for me to have to pay Adobe to be able to use it for my D7000.

When the Adobe team made the 6.3 raw update, they had a choice whether to add its support for new cameras to CS4, but they chose to neglect these customers and not invest the time, and i believe CS4 is not old enough to be neglected just yet.

You're also all saying it's just a couple hundred bucks, well it isn't. I have the production package, so an upgrade is more expensive than that, heck, i can buy another camera with that money.
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Noam, you can use the latest DNG convertor (on this page, right hand side: http://www.adobe.com/downloads/) to convert the D7000 NEF's which will allow use with CS4. It is free.
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Noam, I am sorry if my answer was received as a critic of your post.
I really tried to show the other side of the coin. But do read carefully Andrew Rodney's answer: Pentax, Leica users get first day support for their camera, even in older versions of Camera Raw/Lightroom or another converter that would support DNG completely, because those brands decided to support the open standard that Thomas Knoll, the man behind Photoshop and the Camera Raw engine, created.
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Hi Naom,

We hear you. Did you read my entire article Why doesn't my version of Photoshop or Lightroom support my camera?

I tried to cover most of the concerns that users have around camera support. The last section is especially devoted to users like yourself.

Similar to our users, the Digital Imaging teams at Adobe have limited time and resources. From my article:

"It’s untenable to keep updating previous versions of the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in going back to CS2 to support new cameras/raw formats in a timely fashion. Using the DNG converter is the fastest way to deliver backwards compatibility to ALL users (CS2, CS3, CS4, Lightroom 1 & 2, as well as 3rd party apps that support DNG). This allows us to support the greatest number of customers and cameras as possible."

I encourage all users visiting the feedback site read the Welcome to the Photoshop Family Feedback Site - Getting Started & FAQ and to review the Community Guidelines and Company & Customer Pact.
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>If Adobe does N-1, it will be a miracle and will extend the life of every version of CS by two years

Oh yeah ... and "miracle" is hyperbole. Spewing that does not enhance your arguments.
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@Andrew: Not very original and blatantly incorrect.

I am speaking figuratively, not literally. The two relevant definitions (after the obvious supernatural and religious ones) are:

3. a wonder; marvel.
4. a wonderful or surpassing example of some quality

Such an event would easily fit these definitions.
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>I am speaking figuratively, not literally.

True, so true. In all modes of your text here. Far be it for me to imply you are a hypocrite. My apologies. When I said we have been over this a million times, I just lost count, I was speaking literally, not figuratively. My bad. How could I have missed count?

And I’ve now seen the light. You are indeed correct in every post. I even got a call at midnight from Thomas Knoll who said you inspired him to code ACR to now be IN LR. He was so impressed with your posts, he did this in a few hours and supplied a build. All these years, he could not understand how Lightroom was processing raw data, hopefully he’ll call you and you will explain it to him.

Yes, there is no question all these back and forth posts were extremely valuable and I understand from Thomas that the board of directions at Adobe are meeting to discussing your ideas, as implementing N-1 as you love to call it, will indeed result in a miracle and Adobe’s stock will benefit. I want to thank you for opening our eyes here, I intend to buy a few shares. I’d spend more, but I want to save some money to show you my appreciation by purchasing a fruit basket for you. Just send me your address.

I must bow out now from these enlightening discussions as I should have earlier and will just sit back and take in all your superb insights into software design. I only hope the day comes when you produce a product we call all go out and purchase as I’m sure it will be ground breaking.
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@Andrew:

>>I am speaking figuratively, not literally.
>True, so true. In all modes of your text here. Far be it for me to imply you are
> a hypocrite. My apologies. When I said we have been over this a million
> times, I just lost count, I was speaking literally, not figuratively. My bad.
> How could I have missed count?

> w seen the light. You are indeed correct in every post. I even got a call at
> midnight from Thomas Knoll who said you inspired him to code ACR to now
> be IN LR.

> blah blah blah

> I must bow out now from these enlightening discussions as I should have
> earlier and will just sit back and take in all your superb insights into software
> design. I only hope the day comes when you produce a product we call all
> go out and purchase as I’m sure it will be ground breaking.

Do you fancy yourself clever enough with both software and language to carry off this sort of sarcastic attack? Because I have seen no evidence of that at all.

I'm sure that Thomas is very proud to star in your continuing rant ...
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@ Andrew. Well what is your problem to think you should be so impolite.
I have been working with photoshop since quite a few years now (started in Photoshop 3 and Premiere 4 on both platforms, since I have been working as a trainer in digital image processing techniques for all kind of groups and individuals over the years).
What would you suggest a user should do when new products are launched? Other than read all techspecs and reviewtexts that there are to be found to help her/him when to buy what in order to keep improving a personal workflow?
(please do not answer, this is a rhetorical question)

It is the customer that finds out his new gear is not being supported AFTER she/he has bought it. And then the costumer starts looking for support to get things working that were not broken in the first place!

The DNG convertor solution is gaffer-tape to me for I have to convert all data (as an animator it can be up to a lot of GB's at a time).
Your reply on a similar remark of Kim Letkeman three days ago:
"It changes YOUR workflow because you have a sloppy one or decide you will not upgrade. Or you refuse to even look at Lightroom which will convert on the fly to DNG as it imports. But again, DNG converter in this context is ONLY MANDATORY because you have a proprietary camera format thanks to whoever you purchased the camera from and an older version of ACR. Where in this scenario is Adobe at fault? And you paid less than a Grand I hope (unless yo like to over pay) and you got far more than just ACR plus, your over spent grand still works if you just stop buying new camera systems that spit out a proprietary raw file before Adobe can update to access that data."

Sorry for probably being stupid seen through your eyes, but to me it sounds rediculous that the only solution to this problem of opening newer raw-files is to manually CONVERT what supposed to be a realy high quality image STANDARD. Pointing to cameramanufacturers does not account for your 'older version' argument. The failing downwards compatibility of RAW support is more like an incapability of manufacturers and softwaredevelopers to actually come up with a proper mutual used standard.
I am just frustrated, and again sorry for probably being stupid seen through your eyes, being told I just have to spend an extra 300 Euro's on a CS update or 250 Euro's on buying Lightroom (and thus purchasing yet an other programm that will need to be updated with new releases) just to be able to convert the data on the fly like I did before I bought the new camera.

You are totally missing the point here in this discussion's origin.

Your earlier comment to me "your post is unintelligible and not worthy of further response." is from this moment on mutual I guess.
I simply do not like to be insulted for the fact that I am a USER!

@Kim
"And this discussion is about software development issues --- N-1 support for new cameras. This has *nothing* to do with photography and *everything* to do with software architecture, management practices and marketing choices."
Thank you for all your comments.

Working with a variety of digital tools on a daily basis, I would certainly regret it if ever changing file standards (we should stop calling them standards I guess) and rapidly forwarding expiration dates of software support are to be the perspective for the future.
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Keep in mind the frustration here should not be directed at Adobe but at the manufacture of your camera forces, demands a proprietary raw format that Adobe has to hack to support. IF the manufacturer would simply provide a switch to save off a DNG (as they do when you want another open file format, a JEPG), you’d have support the day the camera is released. But the manufacturers by and large don’t do this. They make you wait for Adobe to get their hands on the camera system (which they have to pay for) and figure out how to convert that data in their converter. This is true for ALL other 3rd party converters too, not just Adobe. The bad guys here are the manufacturers! DNG is an openly documented format and free to use, just like your JPEG. They could save off a DNG, a proprietary raw and/or a JPEG if they wanted to with nearly no costs to them. If more end users directed their frustration at the manufacturers instead of Adobe, maybe, maybe they would do this.
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We don't think think that CS4 is obsolete and DNG is the 'firmware' needed to let CS4 read your newer files.
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"In other words: force us to spend a few hundred bucks on an upgrade every 3 to 4 years instead of every 18 to 24 months ... "

You aren't "forced" to upgrade at all!!! They provide the FREE DNG CONVERTER so you don't have to! In essence, they are providing virtually unlimited backwards compatibility FOR FREE for people that spend thousands on new camera equipment that didn't exist when the host code was created, on sale, or purchased.

"Allow the new ACR to run with CS4."

Read what's being written to you. It's not a matter of "allowing" it, it's a matter of supporting older APIs and development environments while at the same time supporting the new ones too.

How can you presume to know more about the software the developers are developing than the developers do? Isn't that the height of arrogance?
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@Lee Jay: You missed ... the thread you wanted to post into is the one above. But no matter.

You and Andrew seem to like that FREE thing. It is not free if it takes a lot of extra time and changes file formats, forcing the risk averse to maintain two copies (I sure would.) So it is FREE only for people who do not value their own time or their resources.

Further, you take the naive view that Adobe has no obligation to support future cameras once you have spent your thousand bucks. Wrong. It is an axiom that new cameras ship every year so ACR will be updated at least every quarter. DNG is one solution, but N-1 support in ACR is far better for someone who spent the big bucks.

You've bought into the "woe is us" story about everything changing and all our machines are old and dying. But N-1 means CS4, which was never running on those old and dying machines. And if it was, so what. They need to cycle their lab resources just like everyone else. That part of the story is pure CYA. The part about everything changing does not hold water because they've been doing it this way for a long time, and everything did not change every release. AND ... the plugin interface did not wildly change because we know for a fact that other plugins run fine on both.

That you cannot see CYA when you read it does not surprise me. As for your charge of arrogance ... it is not arrogant to be skeptical of logical flaws.
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That you cannot see common sense, won't listen to reason, and continue to argue something you lost long ago... also doesn't surprise me.
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@Chris: The post to which you are replying has been supplanted by a dozen others since then.

I do not quite get what I lost? I am arguing with Andrew because he is acting rather puerile, which is a little out of character for a partner in a respected plugin company like pixel genius.

But I am not arguing with you since you played the "decade old machines and API changes" card, as if that somehow defeated my premise that N-1 support is rather easily accomplished. You consider that explanation common sense, while I consider it much closer to nonsense. No argument to be had.

It remains my opinion that Adobe *chooses* not to give N-1 support for demosaicing.
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Panasonic G3 raw fileformat is not recognized by current Lightroom/Camera Raw.

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Panasonic G3 raw / Lightroom / Camera Raw.
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WHY is there not an upgrade for PSE8 to support Camera Raw 6.3 or higher. I bought PSE 8 a year ago, and a Sony A580 in September - with no support in Camera Raw. Now it is in CR 6.3, but it does not apply to PSE 8, therefore requiring the replacement of software bought a year ago.
It is inconceivable that PSE 8 cannot be set to use later versions of CR, since basically CR just knows how to deal with the various file formats and uses PSE as an interface.
Regards
Chris

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Same article applied to Photoshop Elements. The FREE Adobe DNG Converter will give your copy of Elements 8 the ability to work with files from the Sony A580.
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I think Chris' point is one of my big beefs:
Why I am forced to upgrade the base app simply because a plugin isn't updated for older releases?

I'm a system software developer so "mumble-mumble incompatible" doesn't cut it - I can't believe that the newer raw formats are _so_ different than the previous that the current ACR really wouldn't work with older PSE. I was happily using PSE5 with our D70 & D50. Bought a D300 - oops! gotta upgrade to PSE7. Not happy (I liked the PSE5 interface _much_ more than PSE7), but no real choice. Then we bought a Canon G12. Guess what? ACR for PSE7 doesn't understand CR2. Another upgrade to PSE9 (which I like even LESS than PSE7) and now (even before I've sent in the rebate coupon for PSE9 I see PSE10 is out!!)

I most certainly understand the issues around backwards compatibility - doing QA on old releases with every new camera raw format would be a staggering task. A solution: make newest ACR _work with_ older PSE, but not be supported. I bet your users are able to figure out that difference - here's the latest; if it works great! but if not, upgrade to latest PSE before we'll answer any questions.

edc
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>I can't believe that the newer raw formats are _so_ different than the previous that the current ACR really wouldn't work with older PSE.

Well how about the older version of the Nikon software? Did it just work with the NEWER raw file or did you have to use the newer software that came with the newer camera. That will answer you suspicions.
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Hello

Cyberlink Photodirector 2011 has just come out on Beta. I have no problems with RAF file conversions here. I will stick with this program until Adobe sort themselves out in the future.
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It looks exactly like Ligthroom. They can even call it Lightroom Lite.
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Yes Son, you are right. It need tweaking of course but looks ok so far. Adobe?
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Hello. I'm using CS4 on Mac and have a new Canon 60D. I can't find an update to support the .cr2 files from the Camera for CS4. I updated to Camera Raw 5.7.0.213 but it doesn't recognize the Canon Raw files. What can I do?

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Correct, support for the Canon 60d was added in 6.2 for CS5. You can either update to CS5, or you can use the free DNG converter mentioned in the first post to convert the files to an open format that CS4 will be able to open.
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I have installed Lightroom 2 onto a new computer and when attempting to import RAW photos from files Lightroom says the file type is not supported (MG_8888:CR2) and I am unable to locate how to change File Support to All. When the program was installed on another computer this problem didn't occur. It will open tiff, jpeg or PSD.

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Dennis, the camera you are may be newer than your version of Lightroom. Check here: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/407/kb407111...
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Looking for RW2 support for LightRoom3 and CS5. I use both and my new Panasonic G3 is not yet supported. Is there an update ETA?

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Ladies and Gentleman,

I can ́t find a update for my Photoshop Elements 8 or Adobe Bridge CS4 (mac Version) regarding the reading of the CR2 files from my new CANON 60D!

I read some blogs and I found the information that this Version will be not updated by ADOBE!?

I know that I am only one of hundreds / thousands of customers and only a rookie but I will not buy a new version of this product if this is only a question of some c-code which you can implement easy in the older CS4 Version!

I like the Bridge and the Photoshop Elements product so I hope you will help other customer and me on this issue!

Best regards,

Damian Budnik (Germany)

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You can use the FREE Adobe DNG Converter for new camera support in Elements 8.
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I just bought a Lumix G3 this week, but lightroom still hasn't support its raw file yet. I really hope adobe can add raw support on new cameras more frequently. thanks!

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I bought PSE 8 a week before PSE 9 was released and now cannot open Nikon d7000 RAW files with the 6.2 converter. My only choice now seems to buy PSE 9. You have developed new converters quickly before so now is the time to help us who buy new cameras and depend on Adobe--since PSE 2!!

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NEED PSE 8 RAW converter for new camera--NOW.
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Kim Letkeman

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If it was only a week, why did you not return it and get the newest one? Or contact Adobe for a free upgrade? That is always the appropriate move with Adobe software because the "new cameras use DNG on older versions" thing has been a standard response for years at Adobe.
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Brantley Thomas

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I needed the newest version at that time to work in Win 7 OS and had no problem with my D90 Nef files. It frankly did not occur to me that PSE 8 would be outdated in a year. When I converted some new NEF files to DNG, it looks like the file size drops by a little over 10 %. Not sure if this compromises the quality of the pixel count, but sure seems it would. Since the conversion also doubles the hard drive requirement I thought it would be okay to just delete the NEF files after conversion, but guess not a good idea. Can anyone comment on the quality issue and whether or not to keep the old NEF's?

Thanks,
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The filesize of a converted DNG being 10% smaller than the original NEF isn't necessarily a concern: the DNGs may have a smaller embedded preview than the source NEFs, or the lossless (no data is lost) compression used for the RAW data may be better than what the camera produces.

In the past few years, new versions of PSE seem to come out in the late summer or early fall, so if you can use DNGs for a month or two, then wait until PSE10 comes out and buy that, or if you don't want to use DNGs then buy PSE9 and be in the same boat you were in a year ago, where you bought a version in the last month or two of its release life. I would guess that PSE9 may be on sale near the end of its release life, so you could wait at least that long.
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Brantley Thomas

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Thanks Steve for clarifying the file size question. It seems we are on the hook to use DNG until PSE 10 is out. Over the years I have updated versions every three or four years, but not felt it was required every year. Of course when I bought PSE 8, I did not know it was at the end of its life.
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Ok Lo

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Please when are you going to update lightroom to support newer camera raw file like Panasonic Lumix G3? I am tired of using Silkypix to edit my raws now.

How come Silkypix support G3 raws but not lightroom?

thanks
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LR 3.4.1 was released at end of May. The G3 was announced in mid-May and shipping in June. This is the reason why the G3 is not supported yet by LR. You will have to wait for LR 3.5 which certainly (I think) will support the G3. This is quite normal for the product/version cycle of ACR/Lightroom.

When buying a very recently released camera, one must take into account that there is always a risk that it will not be supported by any third-party raw converter for some weeks/months. Lightroom is no exception.
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No one can say when the next LR will come out: Adobe people who know are sworn to secrecy, and the rest of us don't know, but I'd guess in less than 2 months there should be something. Here is the LR release history so you're guess is as good as mine:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia...

The previous version of LR 3.4 and ACR 6.4 had to be rush-updated to LR 3.4.1 and ACR 6.4.1 because they were corrupting metadata data in a particular camera's image files, so Adobe has a release schedule so they can test things to reduce the likelihood of bad things happening. Hopefully a LR/ACR beta will come out prior to the actual release and you'll be able to do something sooner rather than later.
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Ok Lo

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thanks guys for the quick replies. I understand all the things you have said. I am just curious why does third party company like Silkypix supports G3 as soon as it release but not leading brand like Adobe?

I believe releasing newer updates for features/bugs should be separated from releasing updates for raw support. Cause they are different! Adobe should not release new raw support util next feature/bug update.
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The interim releases of LR and ACR are scheduled periodically throughout the year and are mostly for new camera support, except the last one that came out in about a month to fix an important bug. Scheduling of releases lets the engineers, beta testers, and other quality-control folks be more careful and methodical instead of being rushed and making mistakes or needing to change a profile in the next release.

SilkyPix's company is an 800,000 cap company with 30 employees, while Adobe is a 13B market cap company with 9000 employees around the world.
http://www.isl.co.jp/SILKYPIX/english...
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=AD...;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Sy...

If the RAW-engineers ran the company perhaps things would come out a little quicker, but they are part of a large company that needs to be careful since any misstep can change the stock price and therefore the number of people working to create things for us to use.
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The Olympus e-P3 is rather new on the market and is not yes supported by Adobe Lightroom 3. Since it is becoming a very popular model, I am sure that Adobe wants to support its RAW files. When will this be possible? Until then: Are there any workarounds?

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When will Lightroom support the RAW files of the new Olympus Pen e-P3?.