Why aren't document windows floating in Photoshop Elements 9.0.3?

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After updating Photoshop Elements to 9.0.3, why do my document windows open as tabbed instead of floating?
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While the 9.0.3 update is largely about dealing with some existing issues when using Wacom tablets with Photoshop Elements, a number of other small changes were introduced. Based on the feedback of some customers, the default behavior of opening new documents was changed so that they always open as tabbed, even when floating windows are enabled.

We are not above reverting to the original behavior. Let us know your preferences on the subject.
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those updates didn't so crap to work with the Intuos4, that came with Elements 9.
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Are you having trouble with the Intuos4 and Photoshop Elements 9? If so, what sort of trouble? The update fixes a very specific issue, what you may be experiencing may have nothing to do with this update. Please provide more details.
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On a personal note: I love tabbed documents, in the same way that I love maximized applications. The concept may be a little alien to Mac users, but with Windows, a maximized application window is fixed, it doesn't move, plus it uses up the all of the available screen real estate, leaving no negative space. The same is true of tabbed document windows in Photoshop Elements. Although I did not make this decision, it is one that aligns with my own workflow.
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Adobe seems to think that they've provided this option by releasing PSE 10. Apparently, "reverting" in the above statement, "We are not above reverting to the original behavior" is defined as "you pay for a new version, and we'll 'revert.'"
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Just put the preferences in the next version of photoshop elements. The same two preferences that photoshop cs5 has for dealing with floating/tabbed documents.

Problem solved.

If adobe didn't try to make photoshop elements "dumbed" down in certain areas such as this one, adobe wouldn't have near the complaints.

I either want floatng documents or i don't. I'm sure i can't repeat the words people use when they are working with floating documents and one wrong move of the document makes it tabbed @#$$%%%%^ .

Please give us the choice of either floating or tabbed.
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Dan ... Its already sorted in PSE10

... and give Adobe a break if they didn't dumb down Elements then no one would buy the full version of Photoshop. :) :) :)

Wendy
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It's never been "sorted". Try working with floating windows. I bet you'll turn those windows to tabs when you least expect it.

Photoshop elements needs to have a choice between using floating windows or tabs, not just opening windows as floating windows (or that preference to allow floating windows full edit), but to allow users to work with real floating windows.

In other words when i work with floating windows, allow me to move them around without fear of tabbing them so easily as the case is now.

All i'm asking is to have a feature work right (as it is implemented in photoshop cs5) It's still not perfect in cs5, but at least it's more like working in legacy versions of photoshop or elements.
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If you have used photoshop elements since version 1, then count how many useful features have been removed since version 1. I of course know that some features from photoshop will never be in elements, but 10 years to get a layer mask, really.
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On a personal note: I LOATHE tabbed documents. They get in the way of real work, and do nothing to improve the UI.
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I love tabs in my web browser and some other apps, but not in PSE because a lot of what I do involves dragging stuff from one image to another. So why not make the default a preference setting? Please?

(Speaking of settings, please fix the bug in the Saving Files preferences - it's not saving the Append File Extension setting.)
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The Append File Extension setting bug is something we are aware of and working on.
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I prefer floating document windows 99.2% of the time, so the new default of opening in tabs is, in my opinion, sucky.

But I acknowledge that others may feel the opposite, so I wouldn't want to take away THEIR candy, either.

Give me the choice of which behavior I wish to be default.
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I agree with Genevieve. I love tabs but not in PSE. I also drag stuff from one image to another and this makes it more difficult to do that
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Personally I do not like tabbed documents in this context BUT if we like or dislike them really is totally irrelevant. The real question is:

If you choose to select floating documents do you want them to open floating or tabbed. For me its a no brainer ... I selected floating documents because I wanted them to float Duh !!!

Or is that just to simple ... :) :) :)

The answer really amuses me "default behavior of opening new documents was changed so that they always open as tabbed, even when floating windows are enabled." ... some user (identity unknown but certainly keeping his or her head down) requested this. Umm why didn't they just suggest he/she selected tabbed instead of floating, much simpler and less hassle for the rest of us.

Is the next change going to be Mode RGB opening as Mode Greyscale then you need to change it manually. :)

Wendy
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I feel that such application-wide behaviors should be user selected at the first boot of the software after the installation, and be accessible in the preferences later, or in the welcome screen.
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I really would prefer having the option for all files to open as floating or tabs. I much prefer not using the tabbed method and wish I could revert to the old style.
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I really would prefer having the option for all files to open as floating or tabs. I much prefer not using the tabbed method and wish I could revert to the old style.
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I prefer that there is an option where the user can choose what he/she prefers and not that it already has been decided by PSE!
I want to open the pictures floated and NOT tabbed. But the recent update don't have a choose option and all my files get opened into "one" picture. I need to drag them out all the time which is very annoying!
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After using PSE9 for a couple of days, I can't imagine why floating image windows would ever be required.
If one simply wants to compare images, the Display Options can be used to show tabbed images side-by-side, etc.
If one wants to move or copy objects from one image to another, simply use Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V on the relevant images.
If the old-fashioned method of drag-and-drop is wanted, drag to the image in the Project Bin, or to a tabbed image displayed in a side-by-side view.
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Hi Ken ...

The question really isn't between tabbed documents and floating ones ... lets face it some of us like tabbed documents and some of us don't.

The question is ... if you choose floating documents (an option which Adobe provide) do you want them to open floating or tabbed.

To me logic says if you choose the option floating documents then they should open that way and if you choose tabbed documents then they should open tabbed.

Wendy :)
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I have allways worked with floating images, i just wont do maximzed windows even though i run Windows and not Mac.
I have closed the project window beacuse it takes too much space on a wide screen display.
I'm dissapointed that the tabbed images are default (2 extra clicks is too many)
I'm dissapointed that i allways have to remove a lot of images when trying to print just one (2 clicks too much)
I think i will reistall Photoshop 6
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I think users should have the option of how to display their images. How hard can that be? When you make a choice that's how the open you shouldn't have to make any more mouse clicks to get them floating if that's how you wanted them in the first place.

GIVE USERS THE CHOICE, IT CAN'T BE THAT HARD!
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Total agree!!!!!
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I much prefer, in fact, I really want my images to open in PSE9 as floating windows and not as tabbed windows. Thus, I wish I had not installed 9.0.3 update, and I also wish there were a way to remove it without having to uninstall PSE9 and then re-install it. Please provide an update that reverts to the prior default of opening images in floating windows, or at least provide the user a preference choice of which way images will open. Thank you. Bob
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Adobe, when are you going to give us a choice to make Floating Windows the default over Tabs? It is obvious that most people prefer that option. The change can't come soon enough. The Tabs are not useful when you want to be dragging items from one window to another.
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I am uninstalling 9.03 because of this update. I really hate it and it makes my work so much more difficult. You really need to give us an option on whether we want it tabbed or floating.
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David Nield

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really don't like the new behaviour... at least have it as an option!
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Finally an answer to my problem... but it's not the answer I was looking for. This has been driving me crazy!
Add me to the list of people who dislike not being able to open documents in Floating Windows!
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I finally reinstalled PSE 9 to get rid of the 9.0.3 Update. Such a relief to have my documents opening in floating windows again, and not tabs. Now to reinstall all my brushes and styles. Adobe really needs to fix this in an update to PSE 9, and give people the option to have documents open how they want them to.
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Add me to this list of people who hate not being able to open documents in floating windows too!
How can we work in digiscrap with elements opened in tabs!
I have PSE since the Version 2 for Mac and I have to say that the version 8 and this latest version 9 are not great ones for Mac!
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I'm a digital scrapper and that requires having a number of files/photos open at one time. I loved being able to set my preferences to float all. I really hate the way it is now...all tabbed. I have to spend extra time resetting each time I open more files.

I totally agree with those who have said...make it a choice in preferences! I specifically set my preference to float and the upgrade overrides my choice....HUH?!?! If it's a choice then let it work as a choice!

This needs to be fixed!! Digital scrappers have a huge following for PSE. How about considering us when these changes are made!
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Almost all, if not all of the comments, favor allowing the user to have an option to float or not float all open files (as was the case at one time). It seems to be falling on deaf ears. Unless I have missed something, nothing is being done to respond to the users wishes. Adobe, do you look at this user feedback?
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Ok! I'm tired of fighting with this software. So I just uninstall PSE 9.
I don't understand that this software is increasingly expensive to become less and less good. I throw in the towel as we say in french .