Camera Raw: CMYK color space removed from the quick save option?

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The Photoshop CC team is killing me with their new updates. Why are guys changing things that have worked seamlessly for years?? I have a specific client that requires me to deliver a CMYK tif version of my final images and the quickest way to do that in a batch was to select all the images in Bridge, open in Raw and save to a new folder with the CMYK color space right from Camera Raw. I recently updated to Photoshop CC 2019 and just tried doing this only to find that CMYK is no longer offered under the color space dropdown menu. Why??? I know I can go in and make an action for this but it is much more time consuming. Please stop making things complicated! You are only slowing us down.
 
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I don't believe ACR has ever converted RGB to CMYK, nor should it (it's engine is RGB based). You own ACR, you own Photoshop and that's where conversions to CMYK take place. In fact, ACR would convert a CMYK file to RGB: 
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/introduction-camera-raw.html

You want RGB to CMYK conversions, it's found in Mode Change or better, Convert to Profile after selecting the specific CMYK output profile. 
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Andrew, i had to double-check for these options in ACR since i couldn't recall ever using them, but you definitely can assign and convert rgb to cmyk using both the Save and Workflow options in ACR. 
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I also see no such CMYK profiles.
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Current version of ACR. Not sure why you are having problems, maybe you are missing some profiles?
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Thanks David, I'm currently running Camera Raw 11.2 and only have the options of 8 profiles which you will see in the screen grab above. I'm not sure where the other ones went or if there is a way to add more. I use to have the option to add all profiles I see in your menu there but the update seemed to take all of them away
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It's working fine for me here... you might need to reinstall ACR or check the folder where all those profiles reside and make sure they're there... can you see them in Ps>Edit>Convert to Profile?
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There's a much faster and better workflow for your task... i'd strongly suggest installing Image Processor Pro.
Use the manual zip installer since the zxp format has been axed.

Same workflow as before - select files in Bridge, then Tools>Ps>IPP. You get a lot more options for formats, save locations, sub folders, renaming, scaling, etc.
Not sure why Adobe has neglected to include this in the default Ps install after all these years. For those of us doing Ps production, it's a tool we can't live without.
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It seems to be occurring on macOS with the latest Camera RAW update. 

It has been referenced here as well:

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2594983
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lovely, thanks.
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Howdy Craig,

I spoke with the Camera Raw crew.  You are correct -- they removed this behavior during a recent attempt to clean-up the app.  It appears that someone was a little overzealous.  We've logged a bug and it should be addressed soon.  Sorry for the hassle.

Thanks,
David
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Why is it in the Windows version? I was able to export a CMYK PSD with ACR 11.2 in testing.
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Yeah, the APIs between OSes are different.  Now that we're aware of this problem, developers are looking into the issue for a resolution.

Thanks,
David
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I noticed this problem with Camera RAW 11.2 as well.

Only the short list of basic RGB (and Lab) profiles are available. Previous version included the full list of profiles available on the workstation.

Please restore. ECIv2 is required for some of our work.
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Adobe is aware of the bug.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Adobe Camera Raw Umwandlung in CMYK Farbraum.

vielen dank, ich habe gestern schon mit Eurem Support telefoniert. In den beiden letzten Updates sind der Farbraum CMYK und viele andere leider nicht mehr enthalten (komischerweise angeblich in der US-Version schon) ... ich suche mir jetzt ein Update in der Funktion, die noch dazu gehört. Ich brauche einfach viele "unbearbeitete Fotos" für das Journal, dessen Fotos im CMYK-Farbraum geliefert wurden. Jetzt muss ich jedes einzelne Foto in PS CC laden und dann einzeln umwandeln. Mich wundert, dass das ausser mir scheinbar noch niemand beanstandet hat?
EINlso bitte, liebes Team von Adobe PS CC Bridge CC und ACR CC, bitte stellt die Möglichkeit der Farbwahl wieder auf die vorher vorhandenen Möglichkeiten um. Die vier oder fünf jetzt angebotenen reichen absolut nicht aus.
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Cam, did you mean to have this be its own new feature request?
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Why is this all in ACR? I'm not seeing where we need advanced exports there anyway. Its both duplication of effort and something else to go wrong.
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It's been there before. They removed the option allowing people to select a color profile other than the 5 recommended ones.  Also it's been acknowledged as a bug. David (official rep) asked about need and use for them. I provided some. :) 

Some people process stills camera raws for use in VFX, alternative workflows, or any of the reasons I stated above.

The other stuff was just me ranting about general features to add to photoshop. :)
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Howdy,

When I log a user-reported bug, I include a link to the original report, so that when management is triaging what to work on, they can hear the customer's own words.  To that end, explaining WHY a feature is important is really helpful -- it gives a sense of how much pain an issue is causing and to whom in which context.  So, feel free to share your stories about why these color spaces are important in your Camera Raw workflow.

For other issues, however, it would be good to have a separate thread with its own bug.  Otherwise, it all comes across as noise.

Hope that helps,
David
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Hi David,

In my field, cultural heritage digitization, ECIv2 is one of the standard recommended color spaces. It is preferred and even required for some work flows.

https://www.metamorfoze.nl/sites/metamorfoze.nl/files/publicatie_documenten/Metamorfoze_Preservation_Imaging_Guidelines_1.0.pdf

http://www.digitizationguidelines.gov/guidelines/FADGI%20Federal%20%20Agencies%20Digital%20Guideline...

I've also used DCI/P3 for film digitization for transfer to video.

--David
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Additional Color Space options.

Camera RAW 11.2 does not offer full range of color working spaces for output. Only sRGB, Adobe RGB, ProPhoto. Earlier versions offer access to the full set of working spaces profiles present on the workstation. ECIv2, etc.
Camera RAW 11.2
Photoshop CC 2018 and 2019
Apple OS X High Sierra and Mojave
Confirmed on three different computers
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Newest Camera RAW update now resolves this. Version 11.2.1.159
 
Thanks Adobe Team! :)