Where did the Extract filter go in Photoshop CS5?

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I want to separate an object from a background in order to create a composite and I can't find the Extract command.
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The Extract plug-in was replaced by the non-destructuve "Refine Edge" technology in Photoshop CS5.

Advanced Masking with Photoshop CS5 - with Russell Brown

Using Improved Selecting and Masking - with Jan Kabili

REFINE EDGE in Photoshop! Improve Your Selections - with Howard Pinsky

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Refine Edge - Help Topic
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I miss the extract tool too. I loved that thing. I have watched Chris Orwig, Matt Koslowski, Martin Evening and others explain the refine edge tool and I still do not get it. I think this may be over-engineered or the right person has not been able to articulate it on video as of yet. I'll keep tryin', so many objects to isolate, SO little time...
TEU
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If you are looking for the Extract Tool forget it. Adobe removed it because it was getting lots of complaints i think. It`s in CS4 Photoshop,because i have got the two. I am in the same boat as you i to am looking for a good tutorial on the Refine Edge Tool. I know what you mean when you say SO little time. I am 63 yrs old and what annoys me is these video`s,with some of the names you have mentioned slavering on with things that has got nothing to do with the topic.
One tutor was trying to tell you how to pronounce Wacom,that wasted about 5 minutes of video.
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I hear you man! I bit the bullet and bought Matt's "famous" book on composting. (I have a small how-to book addiction)...hoping the first few chapters will illuminate the refine edge tool for me. I say the first few chapters because the rest of the book is overstuffed with filler of here's my cool composites ad-infinitum. Typical Kelby padding the 24 hour photoshop hype cycle. Plus the book while printed domestically is printed on really thin paper and the ink bleeds through, so the color is whacked. They must be really bummed....Anyway heres to hoping Matt can shed some light on m inability to bond with the Re-Find the Edge tool.
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The Extract tool was just a bad idea in the first place. Poor masking, poor dialog based implementation. It was the kind of feature dreamed up by someone with no in depth knowledge of Photoshop. Who as a result most probably shouldn't have been employed at Adobe in the fist place.
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I will tell Chris Cox that next Photoshop Users meeting at Adobe. Gosh, I must have very low standards for my masking, I liked the Extract tool. The general consensus is the new tools in CS5 are a vast improvement. I am encouraged, tell me mark, moving forward, aside from the inexcusable failings of some engineers on the CS3 team, how would approach coaching some one who is having trouble with the new refine mask tool??
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i am spoiled by the extratc tool. i had a computer for a long time, and the also has cs3 until that coomputer broke.
now, i jusy purchased a new computer, i haves cs6, and i have read, and read, but the first step , in the refine edge command=( take a minute and outline with the quick selection tool ) i cant get it right.
this method, goes on and on, it had many steps, and the teaching dialog gets more brief and less explanation until i am totally at a loss.
i wish i had cs3, i would use it just for the extract purpose.
unfortunately, even though i was using cs3, it was stolen from my apartment when i was in the hospital having a mastectomy.
the other option- the background eraser tool- starts out easy, no other comments!!! i can use it, but suddenly, it stops working!
i am doing art now, for 3 years, without the aid of extraction. i had to resort to digital darkroom...
i really want to learn how to extract, ...
better yet... i want to have the extract tool back.
question.................what would be involved in getting the extract tool put into my
sc6? is it possible?
who knows the answer to this?
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I am sorry but you will not find the extract tool.
Adobe ditched it for some reason,but the Background Eraser Tool should work ok.
In short the Extract Filter does not exist any more,but the Refine Edge Tool does.
It`s not easy to use it?
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no. i am an idiot i guess.
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I've tried many times but have been unable to work as efficiently with Refine Edge on the typical masking work done here. I too have watched the videos, and given it my best shot. If only we could still have it available to use in PS CS5.

I think the main place where Refine Edge falls down for me is being unable to guide the small decision "crossroads" that probably only a human can do.
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I have tried the Refine Edges filter and am still unimpressed. The Extract filter was far from perfect, but it was very precise, especially if you use do touch-ups with the History brush after using it. I found a link with information on how to copy it to CS5 from CS3.

http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/1726...
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Thanks, Hector. I did have my hopes up, but already had no luck trying to successfully load the old plug-in to PS CS5 on Mac 10.6.8 under 32 or 64 bit PS. Unfortunately there's no special trick revealed in the OReilly post.
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When I use the Refine edge or the refine mask, the new touted tools for detailed extractions, I am universally confronted by the universal NO symbols, the circles with the slashes through them. What stupid thing am I doing? 16 bit instead of 8 bit? How do I get the circles to go away and the refine edge tool to work as advertised?
Tom
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I had used Extract previously, but I *love* the Refine Edge dialog in comparison. If I can't find a good tutorial video, perhaps I'll record my own little demo...

Tom, would you please take a screenshot of the entire Photoshop application window when these "NO" circles appear?
(Mac: Cmd+Shift+3 Win: Print Screen keyboard, File > New > Paste)

You could add it here as an image.
Thanks!
Meredith
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Meredith...PLEASE record that little video. I find the refine edge tool so counter-intuitive that it makes me want to scream. I m willing for it to be user error but it is still really complex with its contingencies. Please share the love with me.
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I have no idea if you will still get this!

Meredith!
Is this you?? OMG.
I think we met at the Adobe Photoshop Users group! ( I co coordinate with Dan Clark) Bert Monroy was the speaker, I was taking to Chris Cox and he introduced us...I hope this is you. I am still having the same problem, I want to get to know this tool desperately.(2 years now!) I did a screen grab but the universal "NO" symbol did not render in the screenshot. Grrr. It comes up instead of the tooltip live when I am trying to edit. I am using PSD5 on a MacPro. Snow leopard. Something is going on or set or something that does not want to let me use this tool. I tried dropping down from 16 bit to 8 but but alas no cigar. Could it be colorspace? I am stumped. Time to trash the prefs? I wonder if you will still get this. I am attaching photo at the bottom of this thread. Look at the fellows forehead. I had to shoot a photo off the screen to get this.
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This blog post links to several helpful tutorials that provide visual walkthroughs:

http://blogs.adobe.com/phosphors/2011...
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Dear Adobe Gripe #13370 & #11824

"I liked the extract tool, please come back."

"Where's Extract!"
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me too... I LOVED EXTRACT! it was my choice of tools for extracting anything from a background... I became VERY, VERY good at it...
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How to install the extract filter in photoshop cs5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOdn5...
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I like doing extractions, most of what I photograph is motorcycles and other stuff that is in a busy background, there's just some stuff you can't do in a controlled inviroment. In my opinion CS5 sucks at doing extractions. With the old extraction fiter I was able to do a good job with motorcycles, including the spokes! There's no way with CS5 you can do spokes. Please come up with something. Is there a plug-in that I can buy from anywhere?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Extractions.
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I really liked the extract tool and really feared using the Refine Edge tool after reading through these comments. I have to say that when I jumped into CS5 and used Refine Edge my uneasiness was soon diminished. Very simple to use. Results were great with just minimal adjustments in the dialog box that pops up. My vote is for Refine Edge! I used it to extract very fine detail in someone's hair against a complex background and it was very efficient. There was minimal masking work needed after hitting okay.
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Well, I don't think it works with a busy background.
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Another thing, explain to me how you can extracr spokes on a motorcycle.
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Too bad for professional photographers Refine Edge tool.. We could work with a very fine filter Extract.. CS6 prepare for your Extract plugin.. Urgent plz!

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where did the Extract filter in Photoshop CS6 ?.
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i'm trying to take extract filter plugin from cs4 (adobe support).. it's working for cs6
try this link how to install extract filter plugins to cs6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOdn5...

screenshoot :
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it's work to cs5..
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Thanks Adi
But...A small gift from Adobe for the users of Windows machine, and another rebuff for those of us who use Macs. I do not get it...the consensus here is that the Extract tool was useful. Less confusing than the refine edge tool. Can't someone who has been enlightened to this method post a better video on how to use it?
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Russell's video is good, but he's doing his extraction with a clean background.
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The video Russel did with refine edge tool, he shows how to educate the tool, how ever he did it with a photo that had contrasting colors. When you do it on a dark colored object and there are dark objects next to your selection your done, it walks over to those unwanted selections>
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I received an email from you Albert. I know exactly what you mean. My beef with Russel,and the other tutors is that they have already have done most of the work before they start the tutorial. I have tried always to try and get this right. I am working on how you do the edges of a tree. I can see the edge changing but when i have finished it i may has well have done it manually.
I think it`s a very over rated tool.
I watched one tutor doing it on hair,and at the end he says that looks good to me.
I look at it,and i can see quite a few mistakes, and i would not have been satisfied with his finished picture.
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Meredith!
Is this you?? OMG.
I think we met at the Adobe Photoshop Users group! ( I co coordinate with Dan Clark) Bert Monroy was the speaker, I was taking to Chris Cox and he introduced us...I hope this is you. I am still having the same problem, I want to get to know this tool desperately.(2 years now!) I did a screen grab but the universal "NO" symbol did not render in the screenshot. Grrr. It comes up instead of the tooltip live when I am trying to edit. I am using PSD5 on a MacPro. Snow leopard. Something is going on or set or something that does not want to let me use this tool. I tried dropping down from 16 bit to 8 but but alas no cigar. Could it be colorspace? I am stumped. Time to trash the prefs? I wonder if you will still get this
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HI Tom, Yes - it's me! :) It's fun to connect with people I know.
Turn off the "Show Original" checkbox and you should be good to go.

Show Original displays the original mask (as it was before entering the dialog and making adjustments). We thought it wouldn't make sense to use the Refine Adjustment brush without live results, so we disabled the brushes when in that view mode.

It's off by default, but I see you have "Remember Setting" on, so that's why it keeps coming up for you.

I hope that helps!
Meredith
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DOH! I knew it was some dang setting. And Yippee, so wild to connect with you, after two years of PSD suffering and inaction; and at the PSUG! I am really anxious to use this tool on a series of Poppy photographs shot in front of a white seamless. Yes in the garden. Try me at tom@phototrainer so we can converse outside of this venue. THANK YOU!!!
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i need the extract tool!!!!!
i am reading all these same words, but they were written 3-4 years ago!!!
i had cs3 then, and used it until my computer died last sept 2013.
i then dot an awesome HP computer, but , i have cs6, and dis
i discovered the problem of no extract tool.
i also discovered i am either an idiot, or the refine edge tool is not explained well enough??

i prefer to find out if it is possible to have the extract tool installed into my cs6?

who knows the answer to that????
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Here's another nice example of Refine Edge:

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Jeffery, your busy background didn't have any colors close to what the dog is. Lets see you do one with a motorcycle and extract the spokes and all detail.