Elements 9: Color shift after saving jpeg

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Suddenly when i save a file as a jpeg from PSE 9 the colors are weird. They're not weird in the original, or from Lightroom. The weird colors are reproduced when I transfer the jpeg file to my iPhone and look at them there.


The top one is the weird one, the bottom one is correct.


I have tried changing color profiles, file modes etc., and nothing seems to work.

Please help!
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Chris Cox

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What color space is your document in?
How are you viewing the image after saving it?
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They are raw files (various cameras) imported into a Macbook Pro using OS X 10.10.5, then imported into Lightroom (color space is ProPhoto RGB. If I save as a Jpg in a new folder and view them in Preview on the Mac I don't know what the color space is, but SoftView with Profile says None. (The Mac's LCD is pretty accurately calibrated for color, so that e.g. colors of objects on the web look correct on the Mac). The files saved this way look fine. But if I import them into PSE9, either as a jpeg from the saved file, or directly from LR, for further tweaking, it doesn't matter what color space I use, the results look weird. I have tried saving in PSE as Jpegs in various ones with the same result, but the one I have always used with no problem up to a few days ago is sRGB IEC69166-2.1.

I should add this problem has occurred spontaneously in the last few days. I have incorporated the now free Nik plugins in LR and PSE but I think it appeared before that. However, could it have something to do with them? The other odd thing I have now noticed is that in some files saved this way from PSE the thumbnails in icon view on the Mac only show up as generic white icons, without the actual thumbnail.

Thanks for any help.

Richard
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It looks like the images haven't been converted to sRGB.
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I have done some more experimenting, and it looks like it's something to do with the Nik plugins. I just tried importing another another image from LR into PSE, and was soon as I hit Filter -> Nik Collection -> Viveza the color space changed. It also happened as soon as I hit Sharpener Pro3. But it only happened the once, not when I tried to repeat it another time. Could I have a faulty Nik Collection file? In any case,, how do I convert the images to sRGB - is the problem in PSE, Nik, or Preview on the Mac?
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When you click on the 'Open' button inĀ  the ACR dialog to send your converted and adjusted raw file to the editor, the color mode will be defined by your setting in the editor in the menu Edit >> Preferences with the 'Colour' option (shortcut Shift Ctrl K).
If you select 'Always optimize for computer screens', the sRGB profile is applied
If you select 'Always optimize for print', the aRGB profile is applied.

If the image comes from another software like Lightroom, the embedded color profile is used if recognized by Elements (even if not available in the menu options). If you import an image with Prophoto profile from Lightroom, Elements will recognize the profile (shown in the detail bar on the bottom of the image window if you set it to display the color profile) and show correct colours on screen without converting the profile. If you print or publish on the web where sRGB is expected, you'll get washed out results.
In that case, use the menu Image >> Convert >> to sRGB for use on the Web or aRGB for your home printer. Be sure to set color management correctly, either from Elements or your printer.

Edit:
By the way, on my calibrated screen, your 'correct' version looks a bit too warm...
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Thanks Michel - a very helpful reply. I didn't know about these options, and showing the profile on the detail bar is something potentially very helpful. I realized the "correct " version of that particular picture looked too warm on my monitor. It now looks just right in a version with sRGB correction applied in PSE, then a cooling filter applied as an adjustment layer, so I think that's confirmation that my monitor is calibrated as correctly as a laptop can be.