We need groups for "styles" like we have for brushes

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I liked the addition of folder groups for brushes added in Photoshop CC 2018. I was hoping that the same feature would have been added for styles in Photoshop CC 2019. However, that did not happen.

I was amazed that the same feature was not implemented for all preset types in Photoshop CC 2019. I thought for sure that this feature would have been extended to everything else.

I have a ton of styles and right now, I am dividing the categories by a blank style. That helps a little, but it still can be hard to find what I am looking for because it is still one big list of styles when it all boils down.

It would be MUCH easier to have folders or groups for styles and other presets (patterns, shapes, etc). It would help a lot for those who have a lot in their Photoshop.

When you created that feature in CC 2018, and not extend it to other custom content in CC 2019, how could something so obvious be overlooked?
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> When you created that feature in CC 2018, and not extend it to other custom content in CC 2019, how could something so obvious be overlooked?

Impossible to overlook, so perhaps just put off until they could assign the resources to it? I'm with you—way too many styles and patterns and gradients, etc, that need to be organized for easy loading and unloading, as well as keeping them separate from each other in the panels. My fingers are crossed that brushes is just the beginning—and that I live long enough to see the next step.  LOL
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Hello, I have 2 questions to ask.
1. Is it necessary to always have all the custom elements loaded simultaneously in memory?

2. Would not you like to be able to dispatcher them by type of work or subject?

So my suggestion would be to be able to create PS loadable / unloadable sets easily, just by calling the name. And of course, something missing is a way to view the content of these sets easily next to the PS window. This for possibly an unnecessary consumption of RAM for elements, that I will not use for the treatment of this project. And if in addition, a link to the set of element could be saved in the file so that the couple file - set of parameters is loaded automatically when opening the file. See again storing these together as libraries in the CC Cloud.


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" 1. Is it necessary to always have all the custom elements loaded simultaneously in memory?"

I never have them all loaded. I call them up and remove them as needed, but it a) means using the Preset Manager just to make smaller personal sets for different purposes, and b) finding a way to separate them visually so I can use thumbnail view to find a set and not always have to use list view to know if I'm sticking to a designed set for a specific file. I've done all of that, but it's not flexible and it's a big nuisance every time.

"And of course, something missing is a way to view the content of these sets easily next to the PS window."

Are you suggesting a 3rd party app and viewing two applications in the same window? Okay I suppose on a big monitor or multiple monitors, and using split screen on the iPad is okay since you can hide another app when you don't need it and there's really no other good way to drag and drop inside an app, but on a laptop?

"And if in addition, a link to the set of element could be saved in the file so that the couple file - set of parameters is loaded automatically when opening the file."

Here you're suggesting my styles and patterns and such be linked, not embedded in the file?  Linking really opens a can of worms, such as opening files you can't work with because links weren't included or are now missing. I've never had an occasion where I needed more RAM to work with a file that had embedded presets.

> See again storing these together as libraries in the CC Cloud.>

I'm all in favor of being able to store anything in CC Cloud, and it certainly can help with linking issues so long as there's access, if we were willing to link our presets, but I'm not in favor of having to have the Cloud active to be able to access my presets or edit them—so I definitely never would link them—I have seen access to the Cloud fail seriously for a lengthy period of time, and I know many users who go places where they won't have any access. And if they're in our libraries locally, isn't that the same thing as in our Preset panels? We still have to be able to load them into RAM, no? I could misunderstand how Libraries work, but I thought if they were local when I'm offline, they have to be loaded into RAM.

As an option to store presets in our Cloud storage, sure.  Bringing back syncing, in fact, is something that comes up often. How we'd interact with our presets would matter, though. I can use a pattern for a pattern brush, a fill layer, a layer style, a brush tip. . . etc. So I'd still have to go through dialogs to apply the pattern from my library. I'm not clear what is gained here with our workflow or with saving on RAM, though I am clear what's saved by having one set in the Cloud control all my devices that can use my presets.

I'm afraid right now I don't quite see how it helps with preset organization or with using them in the normal way when creating and saving a document. But that doesn't mean the ideas aren't possibly very valuable in some contexts. Perhaps you can explain in more detail how this would all work? I'm sure Adobe can use all the ideas for workflows we can give them.
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I agree, this would be a nice feature for styles, gradients, custom shapes, and patterns.  I do the same I divide them by blank style as well.  However it is still very hard to find the ones you want. 

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