We are making simulation-based Photoshop course and looking for your feedback on this

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Hello Photoshop Family!
We are thinking of designing a simulation-based course where you can learn Photoshop much faster and gain practical experience with instant feedback. 
Here is a quick demo:
https://practice.rocks/photoshop-simulation-demo/

Do you like this training method?
Is there anything else you recommend or would like to share?

Please share your feedback and, in return, I promise to give you 100% discount when we launch this course.
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Ben Izman

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Birck Cox

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It's difficult to be fair to the tutorial. The first task, "open an image", forces the student to deduce that a saved image is saved as a "file", thus he or she must proceed to the File dropdown menu, scroll down to "open", thus success. That is fair to the student. But the second task,  applying a "Diffuse effect", requires that he or she be aware that the word "effect" is not part of the story, and in fact that "Diffuse" is not found under the Filter menu, but one floor down, under "stylize". Stylize? You are asking for Diffuse Effect, and it's found under Filter/stylize? NOT fair to a naive subject. It makes some sense to expect the student to extrapolate from "effect" to "filter", and from there to Liquify, or 3D, or Blur-but to stylize? If the student is brand-new at this, this jump will be pretty frustrating. I think the overall approach will work, so keep working on it, but do it a step at a time. To really pound it into their heads, successful repetition with one change at the end each time works better than expecting them to read your mind. If they already know it, fine-let them skip to the next lesson.
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Thank you so much for your feedback, Birck!
     > " NOT fair to a naive subject. It makes some sense to expect the student to extrapolate from "effect" to "filter""
That is why for new students we have "show me" and "please explain" buttons at the bottom right corner.
Do you think beginners will like this learning method?
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There is many ways how to do simple thing.
Open document
  1. Ctrl + O
  2. Doubleclikck on empty gray background in PS
  3. Recent files panel
  4. Recent file workspace
  5. Recent files in files menu
  6. Drag file into PS window
  7. Mini Bridge panel in old PS versions
  8. From Bridge
  9. From Lightroom
  10. Search console in last PS (ctrl + F)
Rotate Image
  1. Crop tool 
  2. Your method
  3. Search console in last PS (ctrl + F)
Difuse filter
  1. Search console in last PS (ctrl + F)
  2. Your method
There is a lot filters and doesn't make sense remeber where they exactly are. Especialy if you have search console. Because Adobe sometimes changes their placement and some filter are I think invisible if you don't have GPU acceleration.

The next thing is that PS UI is too big and from this reason top toolbar looks a bit different.
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Thank you so much for your feedback, Jaroslav. I really appreciate it!
Here are my answers:
1. I am thinking to find the most efficient method for each challenge and use it as the only solution. To open a document ctrl+o or double click seems to be the most efficient. This way user will only learn the most efficient methods to do each task. It will be difficult to find each way and not sure it's needed. What do you think?
2. Thanks for the point about filters. It is not just about remembering where the filters are. It is also about knowing what they do. It is more about learning or refreshing memory to keep these filters in mind.

I went through too many traditional courses but quickly forgot most of it without practice. This method will have much better retention rate and less time wasting. Do you agree?



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ad 1. depend why people need your course
a) if they need to be able do something without a lot effort to remember and effecient doesn't matter then easily remembered way is better (people who occasionally need to use photoshop and PS is not their primary tool) This sort of people maybe don't want learn Photoshop but they need it and their willingness may not be good.

b) if they want to be Photoshop ninjas which want to spare milliseconds on each task then only most effecient way is acceptable no matter how difficult is learn it (people which want to be graphic professionals) 
Ninjas cheatsheet: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/default-keyboard-shortcuts.html

ad 2. currently it seems that all tasks in your app can user solve with CS2017 search console. Just press Ctrl + F , type what you want, hit enter... not much effort to remember where to find it. Quite efficient even for ninjas in case of less frequently used commands.
Search in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5PpGt5MEE
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Thanks for the links Jaroslav. So I guess my way of learning Photoshop maybe a good fit for three categories. 

1. Beginners that don't even know what to type in search bar, but need to get practical feel of each tool, see what each tool does. 

2. Professionals who value every second and want to become Photoshop Ninjas - get every task done in the most efficient way. We will include hotkeys and the most efficient way to click & achieve each task.

3. Someone that does not use Photoshop often but needs a quick reminder to experience what each tool does.
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You can do one guide for three catogories. Or three guides for each category. Or target only one category which seems to be most profitable.

I am in second category and I would never paid for basic stuffs. This is what  I bought http://www.lightgarden.cz/academy/vyukova-dvd/profesionalni-postprodukce-montaze?currency=EUR 

For me is Ctrl + O to slow because Windows open dialog has bad UX. So I redirected Ctrl + O to open Total Commander where is Listary search tool present, I can see PSDs thumnail in right TC panel and navigate very quickly.

Anyway, you should be wary. I think you see your product the way how you want to see it, not the way how it really is.