Elements Organizer: Delete keyword tags from media file on disk

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In PSE 8, I have deleted some of the keyword tag placed there by the auto-analyzer. I then told the application to write keyword tags to the files for the files I had changed. When I look at these files using the PSE, the tags are gone, but they are still in the metadata embedded in the file. How can I remove these unwanted tags? Thanks.
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Where are you seeing the tags appear in the metadata? Within Elements Organizer or in a third party tool?
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Thanks for the response. I use the organizer to add or remove a keyword. I then use the PSE feature "file/write keyword tag and properties to the file" to update the file. The organizer reflects these changes. However, if I use Windows and look at the Properties/Details/Tags for the file I find the tags that I had deleted in the organizer are still there. Am I doing something wrong?

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I see the behavior now... It seems that the Organizer isn't deleting the keywords from the file, it is only flagging the keywords so that they are ignored by the Organizer. I know that Bridge does remove keywords from the file itself and I tested Lightroom and found that it also correctly removes the keywords. I'll report this to our engineers.

In the mean time, I can suggest a couple workarounds:
1. Create a copy of the file by using File>Export as New Files
(testing this works for the most part... but I might have discovered another bug... Let me know if you run into any trouble with this option).
2. Open the file in Editor, go to File>File Info and delete the keywords you do not want from the Keywords section under the Description tab.
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Thanks for the response. I tried this. The tags that I wanted to remove are removed from the metadata and the ones I wanted to keep are still there. However, when I look at the file in the organizer, none of the tags show up. Additionally, I need to modify tags on several hundred pictures and this method would take too long.
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For working with lots of files, the first workaround will help. You can export many files at once. Thus, once you have set up the keywords the way you want them, selected all the files you've made changes on and Export.

As for the tags that you want to keep no longer showing up in Organizer, I'm a bit curious on the workflow you used to arrive at that point. Were you following workaround #2 above?
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I've tried several time to use method #1. I removed the tags in the organizer and then used file>write key words.. I then exported the files using the default settings on the file>export command. I also tried this method w/o using the file>write key words command. The results were the same. The tags were still there. (I wish I could get this result when I write a check!!!)

For method #2 to work, you must first delete the keywords in the organizer and then open the editor and again remove them from the description tab. If you don't remove them first from from the organizer, they come back (maybe from the catalog dB).
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Hi James,

If you aren't seeing any tags in Organizer even when you have them present in some of your images, you might have missed out importing them.
I guess you can give a try to importing these files again and then doing select all to the button to the Imported Keyword Tags dialog that appears after import.

As of your primary query, even I checked. Organizer cannot delete tags from images.

Thanks
andaleeb
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Hello,

I'm just wondering if there's any new on this issue? I use elements to manage 10,000+ photos and just realized the "can't remove a tag" issue.

I'm OK with stripping all keyword tags, and using Elements to re-write them - but I don't want to do this until the bug is fixed.

Any ideas if this is something that will be addressed in the next version?

Thanks.
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Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer that question...
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You can delete the unwanted tags (i.e. "in-focus," "too dark") from the Elements Organizer and the Organizer will not show them. Elements will not, however, actually remove them from the metadata. I gave up trying to clean up the metadata with Elements and moved my catalog to Lightroom 4. Here I was able to delete the unwanted tag and Lightroom removed them from the metadata.