LIGHTROOM: tracking time we spend on every photos

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I would love a Time tracking to track the time we spend on every photos (I can't find a third parties software that can track the name of the photos we are working on).
Thank you.
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What is the purpose?

I mean you can sort by edit date to show photos you've been working on recently.., and you can lib-filter by number of edits to see how much you've edited various photos (e.g. using Jeffrey Friedl's Data Explorer, and probably John Ellis' AnyFilter) - not good enough?
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Thank you for your reply and infos. Those plugin are really impressive.
My purpose is simple: to know how much time I spent on a photo or a set of photos.
To bill to clients or to better know where and how I spend my time depending of other criteria.
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Well, it sounds easy enough, I guess, but you almost need a meter running which you can start and stop, no?

I mean, I assume you want the time spent between adjustments recorded too, right?, except NOT if you go run an errand..

If it were Photoshop, where you open a file and close it when you're done, it would be easier (although still problematic, since you can have multiple files open, but not necessarily be working on them..), but in Lightroom, what if you have auto-sync enabled and are sending changes to multiple photos - how would the time get partitioned..

Honestly, I would not know how to do this job, in a meaningful enough fashion, in Lightroom. Maybe Adobe would, or maybe they'd have the same questions as me..

On the other hand, I haven't thought this through, but maybe you have (?) - is it really feasible without an inordinately complex algorithm?

My guess: this will never make high-enough priority to get implemented by Adobe. I could be wrong, but if I'm right, it might behoove you to consider "Plan B", if you really need such functionality.
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Rob, look, I use Timing.app (from http://timingapp.com) on my Mac.

It can track a lot of the user activities on his files: names of windows opened in Finder when I use the Finder, name of file opened in front in Word, Photoshop, Illustrator; URL open in Safari, account names and even subjects of email I am writing in Apple Mail, Notes' name in Evernote, and so on. If the Mac is idle and the user is away, Timing pauses the meter.

But it can't distinguish the photos in Lightroom. Nor the folders' names.

The only thing I would like in Lightroom would be to track the time spent for, say, retouching and developing.

But you are right, these are not the only operations we do on single file with LR, but they are sometimes very time consuming.
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OK - I've got the general idea. And maybe Adobe will surprise me and implement this feature, but my money is on nope.

So, begs the question of whether you'd consider a compromise solution in the form of a plugin.

A lot of people request features that exist in the form of a plugin, but won't use the plugin (whether it would be satisfactory or not - they just don't like using plugins): native or bust.. - are you such a person?

Obviously, continued use of such a plugin would depend on how well it works..
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:-)
I like plugins for years. They saved the days with Xpress, Acrobat, Final Cut Pro, Firefox and more recently Safari ! So I say "welcome" to new plugins in LR.
The only problem with them (stability aside) is obsolescence that can occur once the main soft is upgraded. But if this time tracking plugin can export its data before we upgrade the host software, it should be OK.
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Lightroom plugins almost always survive 1-version upgrades intact (e.g. Lr5 to Lr6). 2-version updates (e.g. Lr5 to Lr7) - maybe not..

I could give you the technical reasons for it, but I've been using tons of Lightroom plugins since v2 and haven't had any such problems that I can remember.

Anyway, I may or may not write such a plugin, but there is still value in Adobe and plugin authors being aware of the need/desire, and willingness to use.

Cheers,
Rob
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One question: do you really need to itemize time spent on a photo:
e.g. touchup vs. exposure/contrast..

Or would it suffice to track non-idle time spent with a particular folder/collection and photo/photos selected..

Another question:
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Does time spent on various things need to add up to total time spent.
In other words, you either spent time on one folder, or another, but not both, and you either spent time on one photo or another, but not both..

Or is "relative" time spent adequate.. for example I spent 10 minutes with this folder selected vs. 15 minutes with this folder selected, and 5 minutes editing this photo vs. 3 minutes editing that photo.. It would be easier to do relative, since one could simply poll periodically for what's been edited, and increment counters for those things which have been edited, without worrying about what to do if two things have been edited - which get's incremented by how much so it all comes out even (total of parts matches total of whole).

- did that make sense?
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I do both touchup and development adjustments alternatively. I don't need them to be counted as different tasks. I spoke of them just to indicate what kind of activities should be tracked. Tagging, sorting are tasks that take time too, but this time length is not so crucial considering the possible difficulties to track them.

So your idea to count the non idle time running while a photo or a folder (physical or collection?) are selected seems great.
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Boumy wrote:
|> "So your idea to count the non idle time running while a photo or a folder (physical or collection?) are selected seems great."

Definition of "non-idle": At least one of the selected photos has changed in the last "so-many" minutes.

Given the above definition for "non-idle", simply tracking non-idle time spent with various sources and photos selected is pretty easy, but what to do with the data - how should it be stored/presented, when should it be reset, or should it..
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How to display:
The simplest way could be a log window with two sortable columns?
1.Full Path and 2.Total time ?

More features:
Dynamic search field in the log window for path's name
Total sum of time of displayed items
Date fork selection
Collapsable paths

At my humble opinion :)
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How about a CSV file that could be loaded into a spreadsheet or database app?

Best not to re-invent too many wheels.. ;-}
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Sure ! :)
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This'll do it:

Time Tracker (a free plugin I wrote).

Rob
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Really ? Wow. Thank you. I am astonished. I try it. And be back.
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You can contact me outside the forum if questions or problems..

http://www.robcole.com/Rob/ContactMe

Thanks,
Rob