Lightroom Classic: Time Machine Backup External Hard Drive ---> Importing to Lightroom

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I can't seem to import photos from my Time Machine Backup Hard Drive. I normally import from my working drive but had a huge session so I wanted to put the RAW files on my Time Machine backup but now I can't seem to access it from Lightroom. I can see the External Hard Drive while in Lightroom but it says there are no photos. 

Please help! Thank you in advance!
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Andrew Rodney

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TM "stores/formats" items in a weird proprietary fashion. So restore from TM first (maybe to a folder on the desktop), then import or restore to the folder you desire and then import. 
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YES! Or the boot drive. But not, and never the TM drive. It's a black box. 
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Thanks so much. What is a good external hard drive that is compatible with MAC? Maybe 1 TB or so
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I have has very good luck with Western Digital drives.  I have had about 3 Seagate drives that went bad, but many people think they are excellent.  I would recommend more than 1 TB.  My largest drive is 8 TB.  With most of these drives you need to format them for the Mac before you start using them.  Whatever you do, do not format them for Windows PC, format NTFS.  There is software that claims to allow the Mac to read and write that format.  I tried it and it was a disaster.  My Mac crashed more times in a weekend than in the previous 3 years.
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Ok here's the thing: The hard drive that I have that I've been speaking about IS WD Elements (is that Western Digital? Because I went on Amazon and pretty sure they're the same). But so I was given this hard drive as a backup of my old computer from a friend who backed up my old computer and for whatever reason called the backup: Time Machine Backups... 

I'm just so confused.
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Western Digital has several different models.  One is WD Elements.  I have at least one of those.  They also make WD MyBook.  When you format a drive it needs to have a name.  Time Machine Backups is a good name for the drive that Time Machine uses.  Mine is called WD Time Machine.  My other external drives are named "WD My Book 4", "WD My Book 6TB", and "WD Elements 8TB".  Those are arbitrary names you give the drives when you set them up.  Do you know how to access Disk Utility?
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Maybe you're saying that I should have those files on the working drive in a folder and then I can delete the working drive folder and keep a copy of those raw files on the EHD.. that would make sense to me.

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The TimeMachine drive should be dedicated to TimeMachine and not used for any other purpose. TM expects to completely own the drive. 
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Thank goodness your RAW files are still on the SD card, so you have not lost anything at least not yet.  Bill and Andrew are right.  You should not write anything to your Time Machine drive except what the Time Machine process does.  IMHO a good way would be to copy the files from your SD card to your internal drive, then copy the RAW files to your new EHD using Finder.  Then after Time Machine has done its hourly backup you can delete the files from the internal hard drive.  I will say that I find it risky to only have one copy of your RAW files.  I have 4 external drives plus the internal drive on my Mac for a total of over 20 TB.
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Thanks so much. This is great. What is a good external hard drive that is compatible with MAC that I could look into getting?
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They are all fine. You can buy them preformatted for either Windows or Mac. If you get one preformatted for Windows then use the Mac Disk Utility to reformat it. If 4GB is sufficient then I've had great experience with the 2.5" drives from both WD and Seagate in 1.5, 2 and 4TB. There's so little price difference that I recommended the 4TB models. These will all be USB3.1. If you want Thunderbolt 3 then the price will go up 2-4 times. For maximum reliability, you could go with a Samsung external SSD. Through a USB3 port, you'll see little if any performance difference over a HD. 
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Good suggestions folks, but here's a Pro Mac IT Tip: ditch Time Machine, it's flaky dough, based on a Unix hack. Get Carbon Copy Cloner, you'll never have a restore issue!
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OT sorry: I don't know I'd state CCC is superior to say Chronosync and there are lots of products that cost less and are easier to use if that's the goal (SuperDuper is excellent and I think still $15). You can make bootable clones from either. 
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SuperDuper WAS great, it's long defunct (there's no 64-bit version).
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>>SuperDuper WAS great, it's long defunct (there's no 64-bit version).<<

Absolutely wrong! I'm still running it under Catalina. And: 

https://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html
Have no fear. SuperDuper v3.3.1 is here, and it includes full Catalina support!

Seems you know as little about the product as TM despite your insistence on being an expert on Mac products. 

Please get your facts straight. 
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I stand corrected, I'm glad it's still around, thanks, but did you have to continue on to insult me? Maybe that's more about you? Yes, I'm not perfect, but were you a Mac IT guy for 25 years? Or are you the 6th "most helpful" member of this forum?
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I'm sorry if after you told us how much an expert you were with the Mac, and dismissing TM (due to it being based on Unix which is moot; OS X itself is based on Unix), you had to have your facts corrected. 
What do you owe to people who are guilty of being wrong?
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Carlos, clearly you don't understand TimeMachine. Terrible recommendation. We Windows users have been screaming for a TM like product for years, still nothing that works as well. IMHO, it is the only that that Apple gets right. 
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You are the one posting nonstop BS about TimeMachine. Look in a mirror Carlos. 
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Internet trolls waiting to pounce on anyone who makes a mistake? That's a surprise! 2 posts in my 719 here mentioned Time Machine, hardly nonstop. To misquote you "you clearly don't understand how to be polite" (hint: telling someone they're stupid isn't it). Damn it, I responded! I'll shut up now. You have the last word, you are clearly desperate for it! ;-P
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I’m confused!!! I’m on TM external WD 4gb for three years however I’ve never thanks god, had to use it to restore system. So with what that you are saying now
Should I be worried
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Don't be worried by FUD.
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:)
Thanks
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TimeMachine is a gem, from a Windows user who has a hard time saying anything positive about an Apple product. If Apple were to offer a Windows version, they would sell millions of copies.

Microsoft should be embarrassed that after 30 years, all they offer is a cloner to backup and restore the whole system. They have something close to TimeMachine called File History which is a beautiful example of how NOT to build software.

So properly care for your TimeMachine backup and you'll be fine. Also consider dual backups considering the low cost of hard drives. We have a 2nd 4tb portable drive that we keep in a 2 hour fire safe and periodically plug in. It can be left plugged in all the time if you wish and TM automatically switches back and forth. I won't go into a full tutorial here.
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Thanks! I actually keep another backup manually on my google drive.
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I go even further. Because of the file locking slowdown that occurs by GoogleDrive (to ensure file integrity):
  • SSD on the PCIe bus dedicated to Lightroom 
  • after closing Lightroom, use Second Copy (closest thing to TimeMachine for Windows) to sync to both the GoogleDrive folder and an internal backup drive
  • then sync from the Lightroom folder to an external backup drive (perhaps once a week) 
  • so 4 copies of all my images plus 3 previous versions of every edited image (Second Copy allows for essentially as many previous versions as you want, limited by drive space)