Lightroom: Tight integration with Revel

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I would love to be able to share an existing folder or collection in LR with Revel simply by highlighting that folder/collection and select "Add to Revel". This should work as an automatic two-way publish feature (i.e. changes done in Revel for that carousel/collection/Album should be included in LR). The hierarchical structure of the selected folder/collection should be reflected in Revel.

I also thinks it makes sense to be able to view Revel photos shared by others to me directly in LR since I am in favour of having all Revel-features also present in LR, but I think this is of less importance. I guess that somewhere down the road, shared Revel photos could also be viewed in a web browser.
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Hi kurka

At this time, Revel and Lightroom are intended to help different kinds of users, with Revel focusing on consumers. Apart from the one-way export from Lightroom to Revel via the new plugin for Lightroom, I'm not sure deeper integration is on our roadmap. Of course we want ongoing feedback like yours. I just wanted to make clear who Revel's target audience is.
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I see your market analyse but I think you are wrong. I am a hobby photographer but still I am very concerned about having an easy workflow and good tools. Lightroom is good for editing but I love to do rating and sorting on my tablet. This would save me a lot of time and also improve the user experience.

Please to an new market analyse and reconsider a tighter integration.
An specific android tablet and smartphone version is also needed.
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I agree with you (though I am of course no expert in market analysis). I also think that the latest price drop on Lightroom also indicates that it's meant for cunsumers
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Yes, at least metadata editing will be nice to have it sync between Revel and Lightroom. Pro and enthusiasts will be discouraged to use Revel if it cannot talk with Lightroom. Good chance Apple will implement sync with iPhoto of Mac and iPad so I will be inclined to use Aperture if that happens.
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Totally agree - Revel is an important product for helping Lightroom users (who are increasingly consumers) take their images with them on mobile devices. I would also very much like to see better integration of Lightroom with Revel.

Let's put it this way: with the new free version, Adobe has taken this product into the Freemium territory. Freemium works because lots of people will use it, and a few will pay. Who will pay? Enthusiasts. Enthusiasts who are also likely to use Lightroom.

If Revel continues as the somewhat half-baked asset management solution it is now, I'll probably stick with the free version. But if it develops more sophisticated features that really allow me to consolidate my professional work with my smartphone photography, organize it in a professional way (keywording please for God's sake), and bring it with me, then that is something that I will definitely pay a premium for. On the consumer side, I just don't see very many folks willing to pay $6/month or $60 a year. But for the enthusiast/prosumer, it's a total no-brainer if the software can live up to the promise of the concept that you've created.
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I have the complete Adobe suit and I use Lightroom to manage all my photos not just the professional shots. I intended to share them) the family) with the family across the globe.
So let me get this straight you’re willing to have plugins to third party apps like Facebook, Picasa, SmugMug and the like when I get emails that sights like this go out of business daily. Yet a product that you have developed and looks good enough for me to pay 60$ a year to use you won’t simply crate a simple upload feature from Lightroom. The compatibility with raw and other files I can understand, however you have the feature that converts to jpeg before burning to a RWCD. This just seems like a no brainer to me. You have to create at least a plug in.
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Hi Charlie and thanks for your response.
I think there are many photographers that are between the average photos-of-my-kids-birthday and professionals and many of them actually uses Lightroom. But even if it should have been true that Lightroom is only used by high-end photographers, even those needs a way to share their photos, because they also take family photos!

I think the only problem I face with Lightroom is that it's difficult to share my photos with my wife. Because LR has a zillion of shortcut keys (which I love) I can not let anyone use LR to view photos, so I have to rely on exporting photos to somewhere else. The publish service is of GREAT help, since it allows me to have a smart collection that I update regularly with modified and new photos of, let's say, the kids. If I had to use the export feature I had to manually decide which photos were changed and new and export those.

I find it very difficult to understand that Lightroom can publish to Picasaweb, Flickr, Facebook ect, which are all NOT only focused on high-end photographers, while it should not be possible to publish to Adobe's own cloud/software Revel (or Creative Cloud for that matter).

So, one-way to Revel is ok, but it must be possible to use publish rather than export.
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This is really up to the Lightroom team to implement. All I said previously was I'm not sure this is on the roadmap (feature work done by Revel for Lightroom users). Since I last posted, I learned:

Lightroom 4.1 (currently a release candidate on the Adobe Labs site) lets you connect to Revel as a Publish service. You can download it from here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/li...
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It would be great to see Lightroom and Revel be designed to integrate into the same cloud data to provide access everywhere to my Lightroom library.

I appreciate that Revel is geared towards consumers, but I think there is likely overlap with Lightroom users... I can envision many potential use cases:

-download, review and mark favorites / rejects, and mark keywords on an iPad while traveling without access to Lightroom. Or even better, start editing. All this saves a lot of time when you get home.

-Easily share a set of images with someone else

-Sync images across Lightroom catalogs on multiple computers - for example, laptop access when away from a desktop computer. If there will be a higher end version of Revel, this is likely more a case for the Creative Cloud than Revel Cloud, but it would be ideal to make the image sharing work on both to enable an upgrade path as user's needs grow over time.

-etc...

Revel as currently designed (nomenclature / structure) does not appear to preserve the option for the user to easily integrate the two later. Even if integration is a long ways off, it would be ideal to structure them in a way that allows seamless integration later.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Would love to see Revel and Lightroom integration (or at least preparation for future integration).
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It would have been very good if the publish service could bring some data back from Revel to LR. I am not sure what the API supports, but the star-rating in Revel would be great to get back to LR as something. A keyword or a label at least.

If this was possible, I could export recent photos from LR and my wife could review and pick photos that she wanted to print using the star and I could get this info back to LR.

Revel can edit the caption, so this should also get back to LR. And in the future I hope other metadata can be edited in Revel too, so this should also be possible to sync back.

To make me happy, even photo editing done in Revel should be sent back to LR!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Two-way publish service from Lightroom to Revel.
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Can you add Revel to Publishing Services in Lightroom 3 as a plug in.
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I must say i agree that Lightroom and Revel should get better intergration. I`m just ha hobby photographer but its realy enoying that these 2 programs dosen`t work better together.

You managed to get a tight integration with facebook, but not with your own sharing program Revel. Dont know if this is because that Lightroom and Revel are 2 separate development teams... and i dont care, you shoud start working better together and just make it work.

I and many other just want our pictures available where we are and on the device we are using. I use Adobe Mastercollection CS6 at work and are used to Adobe programs working, but the integration between Lightroom and Revel are very disappointing. I`m truly considering dropping Lightroom and Revel and start using Aperture and icloud instead...

Hope someone at Adobe fixes this sooooon!
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I totally agree, Revel and Lightroom are great products, but using both makes me loose a lot of time. I would love to have Revel and Lightroom share the same library or at least being able to snyc a folder from my Lightroom library to Revel, edit in Revel and sync back to Lightroom... This would make the most powerful and useful photography application ever designed.
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I can't see how I would justify another Revel subscription if there were to be no move towards full two-way LR integration. I suspect many enthusiasts like me have joined Revel in anticipation of this development and, like me, will unsubscribed if disappointment prevails.
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You definitely need to work on the interaction between Revel and Lightroom, having two different softwares that merely work together isn't the best solution at all. On the top of that, Revel is way to simple to handle more than a few hundred pictures, finding a precise picture in Revel is simply inefficient.

The pros and enthusiasts also want to edit and tag on the go and backup their library. The concept would really be innovative if you could manage to do that... There is something big to achieve, I talked about this problem with a number of friends and they would definitely join Revel if this interaction would be possible.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Revel and its interaction (or lack of) with Lightroom.
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I am an enthusiastic consumer. I do not do a lot of post-processing, but when I do, I want the bells and whistles and to use my RAW files. My biggest photo challenge is managing my 20k photos (taken with about 15 different devices, since I got my first digicam in 2001). If you have been taking lots of pictures of your kids since birth (like me), you end up with a lot quickly, especially when photography is your favorite hobby.

I just moved to an imac from a PC and am trying to replace my Photoshop Elements (PE) / Photoshop online (PO) workflow solution with a LR/Revel one since I prefer LR organizing and edit to PEs. I have ~20k photos of family, friends, and photo "work" that is all tagged and that I have been sharing via Photoshop online for family and friends to access. It has met my needs excellently. PE and PO synch together excellently, with photos I add in one automatically synching to the other. Why can't LR and Revel work the same way? Or LR and PO (Can it?)?

I am trying to make LR and Revel work for me and am currently disappointed in the workflow. I am also evaluating Aperture/iphoto for the same thing. I would rather not revert back to PE/PO since I like LR very much.

So, please make LR and Revel synch better, like PE and PO do ideally.

Will Revel eventually replace PO?

While I am here, please add keywords to Revel and allow them to be used to sort. Ideally, please allow all the metadata to be accessed and used to sort.

Thank you,
Chris
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Just a update - I switched to SmugMug and just changed my Photoshop Online account so that it will not autorenew. I will not be wasting my time on Revel until it meets my needs.

Chris
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Can I suggest that you add the following to Revel

1. Let the Revel "album" structure mirror the Lightroom Catalog folder structure. It is a major limitation that Revel only allows you to create an "Album" and you cannot create sub-folders within this album. Inside Revel you should be able to create a folder/sub-folder structure in exactly the same way as you can in Lightroom.
2. When you drag photos from Lightroom folders to a Revel "Album" you should have the option to select if the Revel album will reflect the folder structure you are dragging or if all the photos should just go to one Album.

Hope that helps :-)

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Revel: Lightroom integration features.
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David-

Currently Revel does not offer a nested album capability. This has been suggested by a few users and is being evaluated by product management. Thanks for your suggestion.

Pattie
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Hi Pattie

What's the usual time line for this sort of thing.
I suspect there are lots of s out here wanting better integration and tbh a change to aperture is getting more attractive than an upgrade to Lightroom 5
Thanks
Nick
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Nick

I am unable to give commitments that suggested features will for sure be in a future release or announce any timelines for releases. I assure you that we are giving the feedback to the product group for consideration, and I understand how the integration would be helpful. We do appreciate the feedback.

Pattie
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The plug-in you’re looking for is no longer available.
https://www.adoberevel.com/plugins/li...

Is Revel no longer being updated?
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Revel has been superseded by Lr mobile.

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