Photoshop: Provide preference and preset syncing via the cloud! (Brushes, Actions, Tools, Workspaces, etc)

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We need this in Photoshop:
Save and sync brushes, actions and assets to the cloud!
If i then log in to another computer (at my work..what ever) all my tools, patterns and so on are in sync.
ps: could also be the workspace..
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I like this idea, too!
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James Monaco

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I really like this. I've moved over to keeping my Adobe presets in my dropbox account, but it would be great to see this implemented through CS Live.
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this would be great - especally if you could choose which service you'd like to use. i know Adobe would need to include CS live but dropbox definetly has to be there as well.
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I'd really love this. Good suggestion.

A fair amount of work, but would be handy for those with more than one computer they work from. (If it counts, I'm another Dropbox user, but would also be happy if this was a Photoshop.com thing, or similar.)
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I'm not sure if we could manage security on them with a third party site. We'll have to see.
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AJP Lawrence

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I don't see the point of using Drop Box. for several reasons.
I use DB myself, but it's a bit limiting and fiddly for things not in the DB folder.
As Chris says security.
And finally, you can already sign in and link to collaborative stuff in PS like CS Review and CS News and resources, so why not simply extend that ability further. Could Configurator be used to make a synchronizing Panel?

Lightroom can already upload entire websites online, so sending prefefs to Adobe severs is hardly a big stretch, particularly as you can already get a plug in from Photographer's Toolbox to export preferences. Combine these two abilities that already exist and LR at least is sorted.
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I am all for being careful about security but I am not sure how putting presets on an third party server is going to be any kind of security problem. Aren't presets just text files with pre-defined values for existing variables? Isn't there already some sanity/safety checking within LR and PS that validates these files? If so why is is a problem where they are stored? If I'm missing something I would be glad to be enlightened.

So if Adobe wants to provide a new service for this that would be great, but I already use Dropbox for other data and would rather not have to configure and maintain yet another special login/service that is functionally equivalent to what I already have in place.
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Re: the security thing--I can understand how there might be a concern regarding the integration of a CSLive account and a dropbox account if I had to tell Adobe the login credentials for my dropbox. I was thinking something much simpler.

Try this idea for its worth:
I can establish a setting in Photoshop, defining where I wish to keep my Adobe Presets. Maybe it's in the Adobe folder, maybe it's in my dropbox. That setting is stored as a Photoshop preference, *and* in my Adobe CSLive account, if I'm signed in.

Now, any time I go to another computer, I have several options:
1) For computer 2, set up Dropbox and tell that instance of Photoshop to point there. This keeps all presets synced so that changes on computer2 are re-acquired on computer1 by virtue of the machines having the "same" preset folder.
2) I sign into CSLive on computer2, and it notices that it should sync to dropbox and links up automagically to the configured instance of dropbox running on computer2
3) I sign into CSLive on computer2, but it does *not* have dropbox, nor do I want to/have permission to install it for any applicable reason. CSLive sees that I should sync with dropbox, and asks for my dropbox login credentials (not stored by Adobe--used to connect to dropbox). As I change presets, or close Photoshop, these credentials are used to re-upload my prefs to DB and then are wiped away.

I think that covers all use cases of needing to have Photoshop on multiple machines that you may or may not have complete control of. Right? And ost of it is accomplished by letting the prefs folder be variable. he extra coding work would be with the last bit there--sending a folder up to DB (which I assume there's an api for)
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@Louis - you may use Drop box and not want to change, so what about the people who use Sugar Sync, Windows Live, Amazon S3 or one of the many other sometimes better cloud syncing tools? Should they all move to Drop Box to save you any hassle?
And as you obviously have and use an Adobe ID, what's the issue anyway with another login you already use and maintain?
Besides at the moment DB is a bit crippled as you cannot tell it to sync a bunch of different folders scattered around your various hard drives, it can only sync from within the single DB folder and its subfolders. There are workarounds, some fiddly and some dangerous and which differ depending on which OS you are using, so it really isn't that suitable anyway.
And why use a third party who may go out of business or change their terms of use excluding other companies using their service. Particularly as PS for example can already interact and share files online, so why even use a 3rd party tool?
The whole point of this feature request is to make life easy for people, not fiddly with geeky faffing around with 3rd party software. Which most users will have no interes in.
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If adobe made this as a AIR app inside PS it can not be such a big deal can it? :)

It would be nice with a quick share function to share your assets, workspaces or what ever with friends and colleges - With a nice easy to use load, save, sync and export feature.
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It will be great if there is a button to sync all in Photoshop between computers.
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dav3punk

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EVERY Adobe App should be able to sync preferences to/from a cloud–not just Photoshop!
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AJP Lawrence

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A long term frustration with many programmes like Photoshop, Lightroom Premiere, where your customised workspace and presets are so important to how you work, is the inability to simply export/import your preferences.
DIrectory Opus [an amazingly customisable programme] makes this very easy with a simply export and import facility. And for a few versions now, Opera the browser has been able to sync your browsers on various computers with your setting without you having to even do anything other than first set up the programme and sign in on different machines.
This implementation by Opera, would be a particularly useful tool for those who often need to do work on other people's computers as you could simply sign in using your Adobe LogIn and then get all your shortcuts and layouts that you are used to and then rest to previous setting when you log out.
I know I can sometimes get stumped when using other people's software at times as I have no idea where to find things with the standard layout and my shortcuts removed.

This could also back up your actions, brushes, presets etc.
And would also make testing of updates/betas a lot easier too

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Export/Import/Backup of preferences.
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AJP Lawrence, I merged your topic with this one, seems it is very similar in nature.
I will just post a link to an useful script, that is somehow related: the migration assistant: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/860/cpsid_86... It will not move prefs from one version to the other, as they change between versions, but a good scripter might use it as a starting point to export Ps's presets...
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Good point, Pierre. It probably wouldn't be too hard for someone in the community to pull something together pretty quick using that example.
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Export/Import Preferences and Workspaces in Photoshop. I can save and load just about everything in Photoshop, and do since I work in a multi-computer envrionment. Not these two critical ones. Please let that happen!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Exporting and importing preferences and workspaces in Photoshop.
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@ PECourtjoie - I recall looking at scripts a while back, but IIRC it was more hassle than simply manually locating and copying the various folders.

Also note my request is for all CS products, LR and Elements, not just PS. This could even be something handled by Bridge if using CS to do all your programmes in one fell swoop, just as it handle Colour Management for CS.

I've been requesting this for a very long time, so am pleased to see it is being considered at least.
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I don't care if this saves to the cloud, I'd prefer a local save - but the idea is great. We need to be able to export and install Actions, Scripts, Workspaces, Presets, Preferences, Color Settings, Automations, and Configurator Panels in an easy way. These are all great features in PS, but when one uses multiple features, they become a pain to gather, then to install all in the right places.
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I agree. There are some institutions that don't allow saving to cloud based services, but I think the mechanism could be used to package up stuff locally for back-up, sneaker net or private network transfers.
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The huge benefit of syncing with the cloud is that if I add a new action in PS on my desktop, a new workspace in InDesign and a new preset in LR on my laptop is that I don't have to remember what I added to which software on what computer. Actions, presets and tweaks are always getting out of sync on my various machines and even if I could export import everything in one go then I may overwrite a new action or preset on one of the machines if doing a mass import of all settings.
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Perhaps there needs to be two things here - a synchronizing function and an export/import function. I understand your need to have multiple machines synchronized, but there is also a need to share one's settings with others (as in a teaching environment), or in environments where internet access isn't possible. What may work is a tool that listed all items (actions, workspaces, presets, scripts, etc.) with checkboxes, and an option to either export as a package or create a synchronized file in a given location (local drive, dropbox, etc.).
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My original request is to be able to easily export and import settings with all the various benefits that will accrue. Syncing via the net is icing on the cake. I also agree that being able to choose exactly what bits need syncing is important too.
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For local saving of Lightroom preferences, presets, etc. check out TPG LR Backup from Matt Dawson. It's brilliant and can be set to work automatically :
http://photographers-toolbox.com/prod...
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Most excellent! Thanks for sharing. Again, the Lightroom community rocks!
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re: not being able to provide security w/ 3rd parties (dropbox) I dont use Lightroom much anymore but I remember a big advertised feature was flickr and facebook upload built in. So i think dropbox settings sync should be possible
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Great to see the interest in this idea!
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David,

I think there are two levels of interest here. The first is being able to share the presets, etc via a cloud based service. The second is one where the sharing would take place within a closed network. As Jeffrey has already intimated, the first will almost certainly fall foul of the policies in place at quite a few corporate and governmental bodies. The second much less so. Therefore, if you do decide to take the idea forward (actually one that Joh Nack has been championing for years), I would ask that Adobe keep in mind those who have no option but to work within closed networks.
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Let me second Ian's proposal. Being able to export everything to a given location (desktop, for instance), then let user copy and move the files to another machine, then import from there needs to be present for non-networked areas. The Cloud service is a plus, but should maybe not be the default behavior.
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There should be a choice. Something like this maybe.
(not put in any particular order just typed it out)

1) I want to synch to the cloud.
(the cloud being whatever service that is implemented)

2) I Don't want to synch to cloud, I ONLY want to export.

3) I synch to cloud but would like to export my settings at this time.

Maybe??
What do you think?
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I really like this idea too!
But I hope Adobe doesn't charge a ridiculous amount for the cloud service. If they do I simply won't use it, times are tough. Cover the cost but please give us a decent value and don't try to get rich off a nice feature to compliment the software.
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I'd be happy with preset saving and loading, rather than full syncing. Syncing is often a very difficult problem to solve, but wouldn't have much benefit over saving and loading for me (or maybe saving, loading, sharing).
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I would definitely want BOTH! It wouldn't be a problem to implement both. Just as you for sure want to be able to do it without synching there are those (a lot) that for sure want synching.
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I would not be at all happy with simply saving and loading. That's already easily accomplished using backup software and plugins. Syncing is not so easy and would definitely be a great addition!
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loading and saving is a pain in the @$$ and time consuming. It should be simple. Hit a button, sync prefs...done.
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I love LR - it's so much more"professional" than Aperture and certainly than iPhoto. The Apple WWDC conference announced iCloud with seamless integration to Apple products.

I doubt Cuppertino are working to integrate with LR (they want to sell their stuff).

Here's a way out there thought.

Could LR create (by export or ideally, in parallel) a "fake" iPhoto l;ibrary to provide full integration with Apple services. iCloud would then give LR full integration with with all Apples iThings: phones pads, pods et al.

Wouldn't that be cool?
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I hope this idea will be applied to all Adobe apps. Every time I have to install Dreamweaver I have to import my sites and shortcuts for Illustrator and so on. Would love it if I could just sign in and my settings would be downloaded to any computer. Please make it happen!
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Also make it exportable to USB for when cloud is unavailable.
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This is a great idea! Using our Adobe IDs would be a great way to sync/store certain elements of our Adobe products together. Extra storage space could be included when users buy the 'Extended' version of Photoshop.
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my bridge has stopped working in cs5, just says building criteria, after months of working fine. Reinstalled but forgot to copy my own actions etc

can you add a script / reminder to copy actions etc before uninstall finishes and it copies them to a desktop folder.

my bridge is still not working, ah well an entire day wasted and zero info anywhere on your website-cracking stuff adobe.

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add script to copy actions during re-install.
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Absolutely. Probably the smartest thing that Adobe didn't come up with. Adobe Preferences being live/synced in a cloud that you can call up at other studios or computers- awesome. Adobe should hire the guy who thought of this, you need him. :P
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Yes this is an absolutely great idea. Needs to be secure and password protected though.
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To take syncing even a step further for companies like retouching houses, the Wacom intuos 4 tablet can recognize individual styluses. Can you add an option with the syncing mechanism to load prefs by stylus so any computer an operator sits at with their stylus, photoshop will recognize them and load accordingly.
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Dear Adobe Gripe #16507

"Why don't you implement backup/export preferences/profiles?"
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is this a quote someone said? I don't get it.
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