The LIGHTROOM Import Module needs a lot of improvement

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I do a lot of nature shooting and catalog my images under the various subjects A major problem is when I import say 25 images to an set folder and now I want to import another set to a different folder Lightroom has to re import all the images AGAIN then deselect the ones I just imported, before my selection to the new folder. With a 16 to 32 gig card this takes a lot of time each time a import to a different folder.

A great option or work flow is that Lightroom keep the images listed in the import screen and just deselect the imported images, saving a lot of time cataloging. Instead of reloading them every time.

Is there a way to show the exif data in the import screen this would help as well.

Some sort of exposure and contrast control in the import screen to have a better look at the images that can be improved in the main development module. This would save a lot of imports from having to delete them as they are way to dark or way to light to work on.

I find the import screen should be where the decision is made of whether an image is worth improving in the development module or discarding.
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Library is where you sort images into keepers and rejects.

Library is where you can adjust the exposure and contrast to better see what images are good and bad.

Library is where you can see some Exposure-related EXIF information.

Import will deselect images that are already imported, automatically, if you have New Files selected instead of All Files, and if you have Don't Import Suspected Duplicates.

Besides using Library for what it is designed for, another suggestion would be to import everything into a single temporary folder then use Drag-and-Drop to move things around in LR using Library's Folder options.

I actually use my OS file-functions to copy images to folders outside of LR, and then Import all those folders using Drag-and-Drop onto LR's main image area in Library.
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Yes it deselects the images but needs to re import every image every time you import for a new folder

Yes you have to import before you see the data in the library

Yes it can be done outside LR, but you are now using something else to view and catalog..

I thought LR is a stand alone cataloging program ??

Just need some tweaks to make it better and faster to work with.

Also it would be nice if the had a folder history for the past 10 folders viewed or imported to Save time looking for something that you worked on yesterday after you imported more folders or viewed other folders.Much like PS that has an open recent files selection.
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[The removed comment, above, got accidentally posted before I was finished.]

It seems like you want to make many decisions before the images are copied to your computer, and LR is designed to let you make those same decisions after the images are copied to the computer, instead. LR isn't missing any cataloging functions that you've mentioned, it just does them slightly later in the process.

Can you give any reasons why the flagging, viewing EXIF, and quick-adjustments, should be done while the images are still on the card, rather than done after they have copied to the computer and LR has cataloged them?

A reason I can think of that LR postpones the functions you mention until after the import has finished, is for speed and memory usage. Each of those functions requires reading the image or if not reading the image, again, storing the image in memory, and when the images are on the card, that image-reading is much slower than when the images are already on the computer, or if not reading from the card, the image data stored in memory would quickly use up all available resources. LR can also make preview caches to help speed up the viewing of the images, which wouldn't be a good idea on a slower card with limited free space. In other words, LR is designed the way it is to speed things up without using all the computer memory. LR does this by storing things on the computer hard disk that is typically much larger than the computer memory or the camera memory card and much faster than the computer memory card.

If LR only did the Library module functions and didn't do image adjustments or provide various sorts of output formats, i.e. LR was limited to cataloging and didn't allow sophisticated image adjustments and various final production tasks, then LR could be designed differently to do some of the selection functions before the copying from the card, but since it does do much more than just catalog images, it would be silly do to the cataloging functions on the card, and then also do them again on the hard-disk for when other tasks further along in the workflow need to happen with the images on the hard drive. Also putting the images on the hard-drive before doing other cataloging functions means the copying of the images can be finished quickly, so the card can be reused sooner, and the cataloging can be postponed until later.

Do you feel LR is actually non-functional or has a bug or are you just used to doing things a little differently and, without thinking much about it, want LR to do things the way you're used to?
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"Also it would be nice if the had a folder history for the past 10 folders viewed or imported to Save time looking for something that you worked on yesterday after you imported more folders or viewed other folders.Much like PS that has an open recent files selection."

You mean like the Bread Crumbs bar just above the Film Strip left of center?
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You mean like the Recent Sources (upper left hand - click on arrow) in the Import dialog?
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"Library is where you sort images into keepers and rejects."

While this makes sense for some types of photography, it really makes for a laborious workflow if you are an event or wildlife shooter. I want to make the obvious rejects before I import, mainly to check for critical focus. It can be done in the import module but the performance is pretty pedestrian. As a result I use photomechanic for the initial cull and copy. I often will pick 4-5 shots out of several hundred to import into lightroom, and I know I am not alone in this regard. I then make a secondary sort and reject in the library as you suggest.
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My Point Rory Hill why do I have to use a different program to sort what I want to catalog If the import module was better than there would be no need to open your files in a different prg.

I see the the arrow but it is in the import section why not in the library section ....

Thanks Rikk Hill for showing me the previous folders button on the film strip I was looking for something in the drop down library tab at the top of the screen that is where other programs would put it ..

I just find if hard to believe everytime I click import it has to load and create the thumbnails for every file which takes awhile with raw files of 23 meg and a 1000 files on one 32 gig chip.. I use irfvanview to sort through the images but it is a "delete enter right arrow" for each image time consuming But if the import module showed me the image similar to irvfanview then all I need to is click the check mark import them into a folder then continue and check others and put into a different folder and so on instead of reloading and creating every thumbnail with every import and then it has to show what has been imported and remove them from the thumbnails.
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Hey, I totally agree Dan. I use photomechanic because the LR import module is too slow. However, if the LR preview performance is good enough for you then you might find these tips helpful:

- Double click on a thumbnail to see the preview.
- You can zoom to 100% with a mouse click.
- The ~ key toggles the select status.

I really like this implementation, except for the performance...
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I do what you said click and double click to go back and forth between thumbnail and full 1:1 but they are not very clear if you look at them later in the library they are a lot clearer. You may delete a good photo only because the import module does not give a clear clean view of the image. Irvfanview does a better job of thumbnails and loads them quicker.

It is not that as much as re creating the thumbnails every time you import to a new folder that is the major pain in the butt.