Elements 14: Tagging photos is not sticking in metadata

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I'm having issues with just tagging photos in general. I'll have two photos side by side with the same person. Once the name is drug over to tag, it shows up in the icon but will not be in the metadata so when I upload to my on-line account, approx. 50% are not there. Never had this problem with 13...really sucks right now. The only way around it I've found it you have to open the metadata IPTC table up and manually type in those that don't take. IT NEEDS FIXING ASAP

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Michel BRETECHER, Champion

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By default, your tagging is stored in the catalog, not in the media files themselves. That is a major requirement for fast management. For instance, I happen to assign a given temporary keyword to 50 000 files at the same time. Very quick to do in the catalog. Writing to the files would be very long.
That's why is up to you according to the circumstances to use the 'write metadata to files' option in the file menu. Some do that for compatibility with other softwares, others to add some reduncancy for safety. Since it's long to write, you can do that when you are away from your computer. No time lost.
Nothing needs fixing.
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Fully aware of the "write metadata to files". What I'm seeing is in the past you didn't even have to do that for the tagging to upload with the photo to SmugMug or the like. However, I have no problem in "writing metadata" to the files after I'm done with set to upload but that is where the issue is, it is not writing to all the photos, only some. As a test, I used exactly the same tag on two different photos side by side, ran the "write metadata" and went back to see it doesn't write to all and the even though the tagging icon and name appears with the photo, it is not writing to the file. I've processed thousands of photos over several PSE versions...14 is the first time I started having this problem. It wouldn't be in the settings given two behave differently in the same gallery and same identical process.
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BTW...sorry for being so frustrated in first post. After hours of dealing with it and having so many images to work with, I was more than a little frayed.
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I am wondering if this problem was ever solved as I have exactly the same problem in Elements 14. I have tags and I save metadata to files but a considerable number of them don't get written. I have duplicated one particular picture and the meta data got written OK. I backed-up the catalog and restored , saved metadata to file and still the data was written. I ran Elements in Admin mode - still no difference. I went into Windows Gallery and was able to write the tag to the metadat ok. THis is a real problem for me as I spent hours tagging all the photos (they are family photos that I am sorting out after my Dad died). I want to put them up 'in the cloud' for the rest of the family to share. I was using Flickr , can't use the flickr upload from with Elements as it doesn't write the tags. I am therefore uploading within the Flickr system. Many tags get written to Flickr OK but a few hundred aren't and I cannot understand why nor find a successful work around. Has anyone found a solution or work around for this? Many Thanks
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This is the right forum. Your posts will be read; I can't speak for them...
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I won't like to see a comment from Adobe about handling tags in Elements 14. If you want to upload files to another application such as Flickr, you can't use the Flickr uploader in Elements 14 as it doesn't write the tags to Flickr. You therefore have to use the Windows uploader and this requires that your Flickr tags are written properly into the file properties. Now if you maintain your collection in Elements and find that you have miss-labeled a person in your photos and delete the tag, add a new tag (keyword or People) and then save the metadata to file the old tag is still there (ie Elements doesn't overwrite the Windows property field - rather appends to it. So if maintaining your photos in Elements how does Adobe recommend using tags when using an online repositary such as Adobe. You don't get these problems with Windows Photo Gallery as it only uses the property field to maintain the tag so when you delete the tag it also deletes from the Windows property field.

Also how are the people tags maintained - see all my posting above.

If these problems are corrected in Elements 15 I would upgrade but I would lke to know in advance that they are as I have updated before to get over problems that I was having since version 6 only to find more problems of slow response, closing down and hanging up requiring me to do a Ctrl Alt Delete to kill the associated tasks.
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It is not fixed in Elements 15 and was a problem in 14.  I'm very disappointed that they didn't fix the people tag problem.  If you have a people tag on a file, edit it for a new version, the people tag does not stay with the newly edited photo.  You have to retag it.  You didn't have to do this in 13.  Totally unacceptable that they didn't fix this.  And I posted in the forums about this before.


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Quite agree - just 'discovered' the problem with Elements 14 and would appreciate a fix!
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It's still not fixed in Elements 19.