Spot Removal isn't working in LrC 9.3

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I'm selecting a small blemish on a wall that I need to remove.  Although LR selects an area of the wall that would be a match, rather than replacing the original blemish with the selection, it doesn't. The two circles are linked but LR doesn't produce the needed result.
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Seems like you chose heal instead of clone.
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OK, so it's working again, but the only thing I did differently this time is that the tool I used immediately before was the Radial Filter.
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so heal vs clone could impact, as well as transparency. . 
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Heal and clone both replace the selected spot, so that can not be the issue. Opacity can be. If the Opacity is set to zero, then nothing will happen.
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Heal merges the 2 locations, it does not replace the spot. Check some of the YouTube tutorials to learn more about the differences.
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No, Heal does not merge. It copies, but then matches and blends the color, like Dan says. That means that you can completely remove a bright (or dark) spot in the sky using healing, but you should make the brush a little larger than the spot itself. If your brush is the exact same size as the spot you want to remove, then the blending can largely undo the copy result because the colors of the spot itself are used, rather than the colors of the surroundings. I should have added that.
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Here's a nice example that shows that healing really isn't merging, but copying and then blending of colors and brightness. I can heal the skin of the model by using a sample from the blue umbrella! If Lightroom would merge source and destination, then the spot on her forehead would become some kind of greenish color and would also be darker. Instead, the blue color is completely replaced by skin color and the brightness is also matched.

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Hi Johan:  Thanks for the additional bit of detail.  Very helpful.
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Clone replaces pixels in the target area with pixels from the source area with a transition zone (the feather).  Make sure your feather is reasonable and that your opacity is very high or 100.  Best used when trying to replicate an object to cover up something else

Heal copies the texture/shape/contour from the source area to the target area but tries to match and blend with the colors around the selected target area.  Best used if your trying to hide a foregournd object (telephone pole) that is in front of a continuous background (a bush)

Example:  Ref/Orange moon on India ink sky.  Heal (top right moon) kept texture of moon but tries to match or blend its color to that of the surrounding target area.  Clone (bottom moon), the pixels are move to the target area un-changed except the pixels will be some degree of transparent in the feather zone and if the opacity is not 100% allowing some background color to show through


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Excellent description.

IMHO to post on this website, there should be a requirement to own Martin Evening's Lightroom book, preferably the ebook to enable searches
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Thanks Dan.  That was very generous of you to take the time to clearly describe the two options.  I always had difficulty understanding the difference.