soft proofing - monitor settings

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I'm on Classic CC v7.5, Mac Pro and using an NEC PA272W display with SpectraView II. I found that if I don't even use soft proofing and I look at a print in my Just Normlicht 5000°k viewing booth with the dimmer dialed down to match my screen brightness that I get a VERY close display to print match. I make custom ICC paper profiles for my Epson 9900 with the X-Rite i1Photo Pro 2. 

So my question is if I'm already dialing down my display's contrast ratio to get a close match to print, which didn't even look close with a 350:1 display ratio and soft proofing turned on, is the soft proofing option even a necessary component? Am I missing something in the workflow that would get me even closer?

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Yes and no. Yes in that you've calibrated for a paper contrast ratio which is good. That takes a lot of the work from having to use the profiles and the Simulation of paper white and ink black. Something few display's can do or do well. But you still need to soft proof with the profile just to select the desired Rendering Intent which differs per image content. And you'll see, within the gamut limitations if your display, how out of gamut colors will map with the profile. So you want to continue to soft proof. 
See:
http://blog.xritephoto.com/2011/07/x-rite-i1display-pro-advanced-features-contrast-ratio-with-colora...
Note you're display calibration system is vastly more robust than what's described above, but the concepts still apply. 
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Looking at your file "2014PrinterTestFileFlat.tif" with the soft proofing on does match the contrast of the printed version, but the neutrals go colder than the print. When soft proofing is off the color looks slightly warmer and more like the print. I guess it could have something to do with the viewing booth's dimmer not being consistently 5000°k throughout the range? The dimmer is just above the 1/2 point.
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Thank you, Andrew. I'm glad to see you follow this forum. I'll check out the link and check back after if I still have questions.
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You can adjust the booth and/or the cd/m2 of the calibration for brightness but sounds like you need to adjust white balance.
This may help:

Why are my prints too dark?
A video update to a written piece on subject from 2013

In this 24 minute video, I'll cover:

Are your prints really too dark?
Display calibration and WYSIWYG
Proper print viewing conditions
Trouble shooting to get a match
Avoiding kludges that don't solve the problem

High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/Why_are_m...
Low resolution: https://youtu.be/iS6sjZmxjY4
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Thanks again, Andrew!