Lightroom/Camera Raw: Display camera focus information

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Nikon cameras stores the focus point that was in focus and the exposure was taken. This would be extremely valuable to see for a sports/action/wildlife photographer.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled LIGHTROOM: support for camera focus points, sharp focus auto-check, facial recogn....

Where's the best place to post a features wish list? If Lightroom could support reading the focus points from the camera metadata, it seems like it would be easy to run an action to check those focus points for sharpness and automatically reject any images that aren't sharp. What about blink detection or facial recognition and auto tag for naming? If FaceBook can do that, I don't see why Lightroom can't. How about selecting a group of photos and having Lightroom check the faces and finding the best one? I work on a lot of other photographer's photos and for us that shoot events and a lot of photos... these would be huge time savers!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled BRIDGE - Show focus point.

I use Bridge to organize and review images.  It provides all the information I need, with the exception of showing the camera focus point.  When taking upwards of 1000 images per day, it would be extremely helpful in my first cull.  Nikon ViewNX2 shows the focus point, but has many disadvantages when used in that manner.  The focus point is captured in the metadata, so it should be a relatively simple addition.
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Apple's Aperture did this for years. Hard to believe it's a technical challenge for Adobe. I recently migrated from Aperture to Lightroom, and I'm frankly stunned that Adobe doesn't get this. I love LR's merge to HDR and pano features, but there are just too many headslap moments like this. The lack of 3-up view is another major step backwards in my culling workflow. Honestly, what Adobe needs more than engineers is some real-world (not studio) photographers consulting on product design. From a UI standpoint, Aperture was brilliant. LR not so much. I mean, jeez, no customizable keyboard shortcuts? Really?!?! I better shut up now before it gets ugly.
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It is a bit clunky and slow, but there is a plug-in that works for quite a few Canon and Nikon cameras:

http://www.lightroomfocuspointsplugin.com/#faq

This same link to a plug-in has been repeated in earlier posts within the thread you've been merged into.

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Focus points not useful if you focus and then move to compose your shot. Far better would be image analysis showing what's in/out focus and by how much.
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Hi Benjamin,

Though you of course have a point, I do not agree with you statement that this is not a useful feature.

I totally agree on your point with the image analysis.

I am using a Canon EOS 1D X with 61 focus points spread over most of the frame.
Hence, I Compose my shot/frame and then select the correct focus point for the shot. Depending on the scene, using the method "focusing/reframing" can throw the subject out of focus. 

The method suggest by me to ensure perfect sharpness of course is only ideal with cameras with sufficiant focus points spread across the frame. But, most new pro and semi-pro cameras have sufficient focus points to easily accommodate this work-flow. 

Focusing and then reframing is a popular way to work, but not the optimal if you want to make sure to have pin-point-focus. IMHO showing focus points is hence very essential; I think that it is an extremely annoying omission by Adobe and do not understand why they do not implement this feature.

Concerning the focus-point-plugin mentioned in another post: I personally find the plugin way too slow and cumbersome - but it shows that it is doable and it is nice that somebody has spend his time making this available.

As already mentioned by another member prior in this thread, Aperture did this and Canon and Nikon's prorpriatory software shows the focus points as well.

Adobe, wake up!

Didn't Bridge use to show the focus points (six years back or so)?

Have a fantastic day and good luck with your photography.
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Focus points are very valuable to show, especially since most DSLRs and all mirrorless options (Nikon Z series) support a dense grid of focus points meaning the "Centre focus and recompose" style of shooting is being used less and less and will almost entirely disappear as mirrorless overtakes DSLRs.
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I would like to see focusing points in Lightroom and not a plug in!.  This thread started 6 years ago and it is not addressed.  It is basic photography information which would make my initial sort of images much much easier and faster.  Thanks.    
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Canon also stores the focus point.
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I find that use of several plugins to show focus points and to apply a focus mask in Lightroom a very handy tool and wish that it was part of Lightroom since the focus point used is easily obtained from EXIF.

Of course, it would only show WHAT focus point was used, not necessarily where focus actually was achieved, but that could easily be added as an option as well, since there are 3rd party plugins that do that quickly and easily as well.

Be nice if both the focus point used and the focus masking would just be a keystroke, built into ACR/Lightroom.
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Except the Mac plugin on github, haven't most of the external focus point plugins disappeared?  No longer compatible....
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Toggle Focus Points On and Off in Library Mode.

Show Focus Points in Library Mode: There is a 6-year old thread that talks about Lr showing focus points. I think it would be very useful to be able to toggle on and off the location of focus - for focus stacking or choosing among similar photographs. I use a plug in called Show Focus Points, but just seeing the focus points in Library view would be much more convenient. Thanks for considering this.
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I also use Show Focus Points - but also am starting to use Focus Mask, which shows what is in focus instead of what focus point the camera used.  Helpful if you focused and recomposed. 

http://www.capturemonkey.com/focusmask/
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This looks great. Unfortunately, it's LR only, and I use CR. So I still want something like this from Adobe because they keep LR and CR in sync—basically.
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Definitely would be better if built in for sure!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Camera Focus Point Feature.

After purchasing LR a few days ago, I was surprised and disappointed to learn that it was not able to display the camera focus point(s) on my RAW images.  I do bird photography, and found this very useful while using Aperture and Canon's DPP for editing.  I encourage Adobe to add this to LR.

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AS mentioned in a few earlier posts the use of Show Focus Points plug seems to meet many needs and maybe helpful here. Take a look at http://www.lightroomfocuspointsplugin.com 
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I have used this plugin for quite some time now, and it can indeed come in handy, but it shows what focus point was selected and used by the camera (pretty much what any will do) If you focus, then recompose then of course the focus point is not necessarily what is in focus - I have also added the focusmask plugin to Lightroom from CaptureMonkey, which ends up showing what in the image is in focus, not just what point was used.

http://www.capturemonkey.com/focusmask/
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This would be a helpful feature and has my vote. Downloading and installing the 3rd party plugin right after posting this
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Focus Point display for any cameras that support it could be easily added as an info overlay by Adobe. It would be very useful for the technically minded photographers. 

Also deeply appreciated would be a "focus mask" kind of feature like what is found in Capture One Pro.

https://blog.phaseone.com/find-the-best-focused-images-in-no-time/
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Completely agree. It's outrageous that Adobe hasn't integrated this feature yet. I also started a feature request for showing focus points years ago - no reaction from Adobe.
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An option to display the used focus point that would be a great addition to Lightroom. I do manual focus stacking for landscape photographs and there is no way in Lightroom to identify which photographs are from different focus points.

Nikon's ViewNX has this feature so the information is available in the raw file.

I can see this being of use to sport, wildlife and protrait photograhers too. It would be a great help in the culling of the initial ingestion and then selecting the top picks for processing.


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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Can the camera focus point be displayed in LR classic?.

Can the feature to display the Camera focus lock point be added to LR classic? I use canon DSLR and their Digital Photo software will show the focus lock point 
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While waiting for Adobe to implement this, you might consider the Show Focus Points plugin.
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If it were for Camera Raw as well, I'd get it in a heartbeat. I don't think there's any plug-in architecture for CR, though. (sigh) I don't like Nikon's software.
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Plugin works for RAW files from most Canon EOS, Nikon, and some Sony RAW files. 

I don't know if it works from camera generated JPG's, but it might. 

I would be surprised it if worked for JPG's generated from RAW files outside of the camera (EG Save as Jpg or Export as Jpg) as I suspect many programs would not pass the focus point info through unless the program itself made use of that metadata.

I'm on the road so can't test these scenarios.  Maybe someone else can run a few tests and see.
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Plug in "Show Focus Points"  (http://www.lightroomfocuspointsplugin.com/) can show focus points for most (but not all) Nikon and Canon EOS DSLR's as well as from a few Sony models. 

Last major update was 2017 so is getting a bit old, but if you have a camera it supports it really works well and is quite informative.  Not only shows focus point used but also shows
  • Camera make/model
  • Lens Make/model
  • Focal length
  • Distance to focus point
  • Exposure settings
  • Was live view in use
  • Focus mode (AF-S vs AF-C or Single shot, vs AI Servo on Canon)
  • Focus area mode
  • DOF
  • Hyper Focal Distance
  • Number of AF points in use (and how many were actually selected by the camera)
  • Number of AF points actually achieving focus
  • for each available focus point shows status of that focus point
       - Focus achieved on originally selected focus point
       - Focus achieved on not originally selected focus point
       - Inactive focus point
       - Focus point originally selected by user but not locked in picture
Image from my Canon 7d Mark II show in the plugin


Info box from above shot


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Hi,

I know the Show Focus Points Plugin and it is a really great thing made from a user instead of Adobe. But it slows down your workflow if you have to switch between Lightroom and an additional plugin-window. Also it is rather old, now. It doesn't support Nikon's new Z-system, for example. Here is the list of supported cameras:

Canon: EOS 1D X / 1D C, 1D Mark 4, 1Ds Mark3, 1D Mark3, 1Ds Mark2, 1D Mark2 N, 1D Mark2 - 5D Mark 4, 5D Mark 3, 5D Mark 2, 5D Mark2, 5D, 6D, 7D - 80D, 70D, 60D, 50D, 40D, 30D, 20D, 10D - 700D, 100D, 650D (Rebel T4i), 600D (Rebel T3i), 550D (Rebel T2i), 500D (Rebel T1i), 450D (Rebel XSi) , 400D (Rebel XTi), 350D (Rebel XT), 300D (Rebel), M, EOS 1100D, EOS 1000D. Generally all Canon DSLR, and also most Canon Powershot models, should work fine too.
Nikon: D4s, D4, D3S, D3X, D3, D2Xs, D2HS, D2X, D2H, D1X, D1H, D1 - D750, Df, D810, D800, D800E, D700 - D610, D600, D500, D300S, D300, D200, D100 - D7200, D7100, D5600, D5500, D5300, D5200, D5100, D7000, D5000, D90, D60, D40X, D80, D70s, D50, D70 - D3300, D3200, D3100, D3000, D40. Nikon 1 (mirrorless) series (1J1, 1J2, 1J3, 1J4, 1V1, 1V2, 1V3, 1S1, 1S2, 1AW1, 1J5) are also supported. Sony (new): Sony A77ii (beta)

I think this feature should be an essential part of Lightroom:
- it is very useful
- it should be feasible for Adobe as they have to deal with the RAW-format of every new camera, anyway.

Dear Adobe-team - please have a heart after so many years ;-)

Best regards,

Heiko
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Olympus shows it  in the camera on the review screens, please include it in Lightroom
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Yes, I really miss this feature!  I photograph birds and want to know where the camera was trying to focus.  That's because I am after the sharpest possible files, and sometimes want to assess my technique.

Adobe, PLEASE include this feature!
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I'm pretty sure this plug-in doesn't completely work with my Sony A7iii in LR or LR classic.  
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Simple question: Please will Adobe explain why this is such a difficult feature to incorporate into LR (for both RAW and JPEG) as Aperture did. Surely the ongoing requests from users (Adobe's paying customers) spanning many years warrant some action. Ray Cary