Lightroom mobile: Ability to search using keywords

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I have 65,000 photos or so on Lightroom and would love to be able to search through them on my iPad using keywords. They do not have to be full resolution versions, I'd be happy with them scaled down to look good on the iPad display. I have tried...

 

1. Pocket Smith - wasn't impressed - cluncky and slow

2. Adobe cloud - can't sync all photos, can't sync smart collections

3. Creating published service to a folder on the hard drive with sub directories by year and synching with IOS photos. No keyword searching and hard drive intensive.

4. Using Microsoft onedrive by creating published service to a folder on the hard drive on onedrive. Oncedrive seems to recognise keywords but doesn't do a great job of searching through them. There is also no way of making files available offline on the ipad.

I assume that when Lightroom creates smart previews it generates a small JPEG, the Lightroom catalogue file certainly gets very big with smart previews. Isn't it a shame those JPEGs can not, somehow, be synced with IOS in a searchable format, that would be perfect.

Any other suggestions of how this could be done?
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Hello, have you tried the Lightroom Mobile app with is sync. I think it will be able to do the Job.
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Just to be clear, Lightroom mobile does not have keywords or search at this point in time.
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I thought I was going crazy not finding it...
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Hi Alexandre, I must admit I haven't payed with it since the early releases, is it possible to get all photos on the app? I seem to remember that it was not possible to sync smart collections which put me off. 
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I think it's possible with the last release. Yes it is. Just try and you'll see. It's sync with all the collections, thumbnails are so good. You can work offline and when the connexion is on, everything sync.
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No smart collections. You can put all your photos into Lightroom mobile though, just by dragging them to the All Synced Photos collection in the Catalog panel.
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Picasa  :-)
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Hi Peter, I am using Mylio and it is working quite well. You can select Thumbnails, Previews and Originals to be synchronized, depending on your available storage. You can work without a cloud. Searching and Tagging is great. The downsize is the monthly cost, but you need not to pay for a cloud service. Best would be if Adobe would implement such a Feature.
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It's a popular request, and although Lightroom mobile can't do it yet, I'd expect it to be a fairly high priority.
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Just curious but you've been kindly promoting this as a desired feature request going back 5+ years.  Any idea why they are so resistant to this key feature?  Do you have an alternate best practice for searching for keywords on mobile (ex, when you are at dinner with friends and want to show them that picture of a specific image that you would normally find and narrow down via keywords).  Thanks for your continued support.  
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Meanwhile Lightroom CC mobile has improved and now it is possible to click on the filter symbol and then you can select one or several existing keywords. It is a logical OR condition. The normal search is still not possible if you are offline.
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As Peter says, you can now search for keywords on mobile. The glitch in that plan is if you're still using Lightroom Classic, the keywords from Classic don't sync up to the cloud. The keywords from any of the Lightroom CC apps, including desktop, do sync across the CC ecosystem.
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Thank you Victoria for adding this important fact that syncing in both ways with LR classic is still not working. Have thought to switch from Classic to Cc and all pictures in the cloud, bur then I have seen your warning in your LR CC book and stopped my plan
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I'm really liking CC as my personal photo archive, but you just have to be sure that it has all of the features you need before you switch, because "a foot in both camps" types of workflow are definitely more complex.
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If I wanted to move from Lightroom Classic CC to the Cloud, 'could' I even do it if bringing over my keywords is a requirement?  I believe the answer is no.  I also have been told the main reason Adobe hasn't offered this feature yet is because they haven't figured out how to support hierarchical or nested keywords.  So couldn't Adobe offer an option to allow keywords to be brought over from Classic CC to mobile or Cloud CC without carrying over the hierarchies?  I'd personally be fine with that and I imagine many people would if given the option of 1) migrating now and flattening the keywords, or 2) waiting XX years for Adobe to develop it with hierarchies.
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Adobe has said there will be no more improvements to LR Classic's sync with the LR cloud. This is in line with the traditional use of "Classic" by most software marketers to label legacy products.  

It would be straightforward to sync the hierarchical keywords of Classic with the flat keywords of LR cloud, handling the most common use-cases. I have a plugin design ready to go, if Adobe ever provides third-party apps with access to the Create Cloud document storage, as they've promised for the last two years.
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Adobe has said there will be no more improvements to LR Classic's sync with the LR cloud. This is in line with the traditional use of "Classic" by most software marketers to label legacy products.  

It would be straightforward to sync the hierarchical keywords of Classic with the flat keywords of LR cloud, handling the most common use-cases. I have a plugin design ready to go, if Adobe ever provides third-party apps with access to the Create Cloud document storage, as they've promised for the last two years.
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Thanks for the response guys, I am looking at Lightroom mobile again as Alexandre suggested. It seems better than last time I looked but appears to still have two massive limitations

1. can't search or filter by keywords
2. Can't sync smart collections 

To be useful to me I would have to create a bunch of smart collections in Lightroom and regularly drag the contents  into standard collections which are synced. I would then have enough folders in the app to find what i am looking for.

I must admit I have never needed the ability to edit photos on my phone or ipad, as far as I am concerned the ipad is a device for showing media and the mac is a device for creating it.

Milos - RIP Picasa

Peter - thanks I'll take a look at Mylio.

Victoria - thanks I hope you are right, do you have a workflow of Lightroom to mobile device?
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There's a bunch of free blog posts and free infographics on my website at the moment that should help.

Personally, I use Lightroom mobile constantly. It's my favorite tool for sorting through and flagging/starring photos, because the swipe up/down feels so natural. I prefer to use my desktop for serious editing, but it's handy for quick edits on vacation, or tweaking a photo to see if it's worth keeping.

Keywords/search is a limitation without a solid workaround at the moment, but they're constantly adding new features and they've recently started adding metadata editing, so that's the next logical step.
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Thanks Victoria, I remember getting a lot of useful tips on your site years ago, I shall revisit and subscribe.
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Yes, let us hope that Adobe is adding the keyword search or/ and the search for title and subtitle or all metadata :-)
And then develop a full LR for iPad pro, that would be the highlight of the century.
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haha wouldn't that be nice!?
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Beyond keywords and search Peter, what else would you like to see added?
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My ideal scenario would be for the JPEG's that are already created in smart previews to be automatically uploaded to the cloud. I would then like to them to be searchable by keywords in the app and made available offline without taking up a huge amount of space. I would be happy to  sacrifice some quality here. 

At this stage I would completely stop using the IOS photos app. 

Ideally I would then like the ability to not just search but organise within Lightroom mobile. So add keywords, and put in collections. If we are going further than the ability to publish to any of my publish services would be fantastic.
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PS If Adobe has no plans or roadmap to solve for bridging the keywords from Lightroom Classic CC to Cloud CC, it would be helpful to know that now so we can plan accordingly.  
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When I first saw the new Lighroom CC I though all my prayers had been answered! I have synced a bunch of photos up to the cloud using the new Lightroom  Classic. All of them nicely keyworded. The new Lightroom app on the ipad looks great and has a very promising little search button on the top left. 

However it seems to only find some of the photos with certain keywords and does not, I think, find any people who have been tagged. 

It also, bizarrely, refuses to work at all if not connected to the internet even if I have made the files available offline!

Oh well..