Photoshop: Save Presets often, instead of at program exit

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Photoshop crashes after I've made say a bunch of patterns and brushes and then when I reload the program/app the brushes I've spent hours on will be all gone. In addition, the patterns and other resources which I've taken hours to make are also gone.

Sometimes also, Adobe simply crashes all cached resources, so I have to reload them all over again, which is also a pain, sometimes losing some because I forgot to save the PSD or an img pack or brush pack for the file.

Please put in Library/resource crash protection. I know it can be done.
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Rachel Udin

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Chris Cox

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Which version of Photoshop are you using?
Which OS version?

What do you mean "crashes all cached resources"?
What do you mean by "library/resource crash protection"?
Are you talking about losing presets that you made because you didn't save them and they didn't get a chance to be written out to preferences?
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Rachel Udin

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I originally put this under the auto save (a while back), but was asked to split it from the original thread. And also the programmer on that channel also said it would be feasible... and came up with a possible prog solution, but it would need supporting votes. Also suggested was to have an external save of workspaces, which I understand has a similar functionality.

Presets, such as brushes, patterns, custom shapes, etc are temporarily saved in Photoshop's panels *unless* you shut down the application after going Edit-->Define [Preset name]-->[Enter name of brush]-->OK. I dislike this. It should be more permanent and actually save when you define the preset, not on app/prog quitting.

As it stands, if the application/program crashes, then any presets made in that session disappear. If you want to save those presets, you have to export them through the Preset Manager, but that's a pain especially when someone has a mind to make say 20 brushes in a set (Which means shutting down 20 times. Which is seriously ridiculous). But it if crashes, then you still have to fight to find the brushes and load them. It's inefficient.

I've also had the program crash on me *as I was saving a preset pack* and then the outgoing file was also corrupted. That's not fun.

Photoshop occasionally upon loading the program will have a corrupt file for the presets. Then it asks you to start with a new preference file or the program won't load, then you are screwed because all your presets are wiped. You can see the issues with that if the person has not exported all the presets they've created to .pat/.abr, etc files yet. (I had a double whammy where the program stuttered upon saving an abr pack, it stuttered for 5 hours on a 5GB ram machine running only a browser and photoshop, then crashed. When I loaded it again, all presets were wiped to factory default (corrupt file). I lost some of the brushes in the psd file I was working on. I lost some cusom shapes I'd made. I lost the brushes I'd made in that session and I didn't have a back up file. And I lost my work flow so I had to check which brushes I'd created again. It was painful. I need idiocy protection.)

I hope that makes it more clear.

I'd change the title, but I don't have that power... if you want to change it to something more understandable, go ahead.
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Chris Cox

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Also, if Photoshop is crashing that often on you - something may be wrong with your system. You definitely should work on that issue -- Photoshop normally doesn't crash THAT often.
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Rachel Udin

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13 GB RAM, Mac, and latest OSX update. I don't think so.

Crashes are a fact of life. I get that programmers want to think their program won't crash--but it does and it will. Freak stuff happens sometimes. The user shouldn't have to take 100% of the onus for it.

Photoshop is a RAM hog even with 13GB RAM. And the fact that saving presets isn't permanent isn't a pleasant experience. It's about UX and User Expectation in this case.

=P CS4 (though I know you are up to 6--I'm holding out for the preset/type organization.) crashed about 10 times already today. Once on the type tool change over. Once again when I tried to size a 9 layer file (1 MB file). 9 times in a row because it doesn't know how to handle sizing a smart object. So it crashed.

Crashes happen with bugs, black outs, brown outs... really, that uncontrollable stuff called life. And I'd like to know that my presets are where I left them in the menus.
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Chris Cox

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Photoshop only uses as much RAM as you let it - and as much as it needs for your images. But even if it needs more RAM than you have, it just uses the scratch disk and doesn't crash.

Yes, sometimes crashes will happen - but Photoshop crashes so infrequently that I have to wonder if you have something else going on.

With CS4 you are most likely crashing due to MacOS bugs (Apple doesn't want to fix "old" code). And the only crash I know of in CS5 when resizing a smart object is when using an EPS file, when the user copied an obsolete EPS parser plugin from a previous version of Photoshop.

If you really are crashing that often, email me the crash logs and I'll let you know why -- ccox (at) adobe (DOT) com.
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Jaroslav Bereza

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This thing would really appreciate it. Again and again I have to set swatches and actions like a jerk.
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Jaroslav Bereza

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A small example. Yesterday I set that layer thumbnails were by boundary layer. Then my photoshop crashed. Today I set it again.
I mean this settings: http://sklad.bereza.cz/00-jarda/00_sc...
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This is a great conversation that's separate from the main one, so I created a new conversation to continue the discussion.

Please reference the new conversation here: Photoshop: Crash after changing Layer panel options for thumbnails