Lightroom: Raw + JPEG Stacking needs improvement

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The way Lightroom handles RAW and JPEG files needs some major improvement. Currently, I import my files as separate files (as checked in the Preferences). This is because I prefer to look at the JPEG files since the RAW files generally look terrible out of the camera. 

I would really like to have an Auto Stack option that will stack the RAW and JPEG file together, based on filename and capture time. Then, there should be a toggle button that allow you to switch between the RAW or JPEG file on top. Any ratings, flagging or color labels would automatically be done to both copies. 

This way, I could view my images as JPEG files that are already processed in camera (and look good), sort and label and place in collections. Then I can do basic cropping, adjustments and such to my JPEG files, and if needed, I could switch over to the RAW file, easily if I need it for a higher quality processing. 

The RAW file really needs to be treated as the Digital Negative to the JPEG file. It's there if you need it, attached automatically. 

I tell you that sorting through 25K images where each image has 2 files makes the job twice as difficult. BTW, Canon's DPP software has this type of RAW/JPEG stacking with a click of one toggle button, so it should be possible to implement.
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Ryan

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BTW, I currently use the filters to sort images by File Type to view just the JPEG or RAW files. This works, but it does not apply any ratings or anything to the accompanying RAW file. 

And Auto-Stack by Time does not work when you shoot 14FPS or even 6FPS. 
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I would have to say your workflow is complete opposite of most others. I shoot both JPG + RAW 99.999% of the time and after importing the images into LR and first review I discard all the JPG files. The only time I use any of the JPG files is if I have to send something out right away for review. Otherwise all they are doing is taking up space and getting in the way.
For you I suggest you just shoot at the highest quality JPG and forget the RAW images. 
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Maybe your are right, but I still want to have access to the RAW files just in case one is needed for a larger print job or further processing. Thus, my plea for other file handling options for both RAW + JPEG.
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"I prefer to look at the JPEG files since the RAW files generally look terrible out of the camera."

What camera profile are you using in Lightroom for your raw files? Sounds like you're using "Adobe Standard" and not the profiles for your specific camera that will better match the look of the JPEGs.

See the section "Why do colors seem to shift when I import images into Lightroom? How do I solve this issue?" in this Lightroom Color FAQ: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/color-faq.html

In the Camera Calibration panel of the Develop module, instead of using the default Adobe Standard profile, select the appropriate Camera Matching profile for your camera model to approximate the look of how your camera processes the image. Camera Matching profiles attempt to match the camera manufacturer’s color appearance under specific settings. Use Camera Matching profiles if you prefer the color rendering offered by your camera manufacturer’s software.  

For more information, see these resources:

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I'm shooting with a Canon 1DX Mark II, which does an awesome job of processing the RAW files in camera which includes Picture Style Profiles, Peripheral Illumination Correction, Lens Correction, Distortion Control, Chromatic Aberration Correction and even Diffraction Correction. 

Even when using the Camera Matching profile in LR, the RAW files look terrible in comparison to the JPEGs that the camera produces. I have yet to be able to process a RAW image and get an exact match to the JPEG files, since LR handles individual colors, like green, yellow and red, completely different. 

So, while I may just use mostly the JPEG files, the fact is that my complaint here still stands!!!  Hear my point:

I want a better way to attach the RAW and JPEG files together. So that the RAW file is essentially a underlying digital negative to the JPEG file. This would allow me to not have to sort, flag, rate and label the two files separately. Then, when I need something more than the JPEG file offers, I can easily switch to the RAW file and process my heart out until it produces the image I want. 

This is opposite to the way that LR handles JPEG + RAW because when you have "Treat RAW and JPEG files as separate files" turned off in the preferences, it does group them, but it only allows you to see the RAW file and hides the JPEG one. 

So, I would like for LR to give us options to have the two file types grouped together, and be able to choose whether I view the RAW (as currently) or view the JPEG version and be able to toggle back and forth.

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