Photoshop: Raw image edit directly into PS

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I use PS and ACR.  When I need to use layers on a raw image, I have to go into ACR and back out to get directly into PS.  It would certainly help if I could go directly into PS.  I tried to get directly into PS by going into Preferences > File Handling and unchecking "Prefer Adobe Camera Raw for Supported Raw Files," but PS still goes into ACR with raw images. With that unchecked, it would be a very easy fix to have PS go directly into raw image editing.
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Not exactly sure what you're asking, I'm confused when you say:  I need to use layers on a raw image. 

AFAIK, the role of the preference is about editing non raw images with parametric editing instructions.

PS has to enter ACR for raw images, it has never be able to edit anything but rendered (non raw) images, hence this plug in. After it edits and renders the image, Photoshop can of course be used with layers. 
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There is one way into Photoshop with a raw file without going through Camera Raw. If you use Bridge, you can Shift-double-click on a raw file and it will open directly into Photoshop with the settings applied —default conversion if there are no settings.

The downside is you have just converted the file to a normal file, as if you had opened directly from Camera Raw without opening as a Smart Object. This may be what you want, however. Workflows vary with needs. But you can bypass Camera Raw if you're happy with not being able to reedit the raw file itself in Camera Raw once inside Photoshop. Of course, the Camera Raw filter will still be at your disposal inside PS.
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There is one way into Photoshop with a raw file without going through Camera Raw. If you use Bridge, you can Shift-double-click on a raw file and it will open directly into Photoshop with the settings applied —default conversion if there are no settings.
OK I'll bite; how is the raw not rendered through ACR (whether you see it's UI or not)? 

What rendered it? 

Perhaps what you wanted to say was, There is one way into Photoshop with a raw file without going through Camera Raw interface? 
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Of course it's rendered. I said it was, even if I used "convert" instead of "render."

My take on his post was that he didn't want to have to open the file in Camera Raw, only to immediately open it from there into PS. I said there's a way. I never claimed the file wouldn't be rendered. I never claimed that he'd have a raw file at the end of it.

You don't need to nit-pick, Andrew. What I said he could do is exactly what he said he was doing—merely opening straight from Camera Raw WITHOUT making any further adjustments. What runs behind the scenes runs either way. Obviously!
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Thank you for your thoughts.
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Of course it's rendered. I said it was, even if I used "convert" instead of "render." 
Rendered by what if NOT Adobe Camera Raw? How is the raw not going through ACR (via Bridge)? Not nitpicking, asking you to explain what you wrote.

There is one way into Photoshop with a raw file without going through Camera Raw.
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Thanks Cristen.  I tried it, but it didn't work.  Here is my problem.  I use sticky keys to press down on the shift key, and then I double-click on the image.  But I have noticed that PS doesn't handle the sticky keys the way other programs do.  So, because I have only one working hand, I try to use the mouse.  Do you know the way to do it with only one hand?
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No, I'm sorry. For me, anyway, it's always been a two-handed process. Wait, it's awkward, I found something I could set on the shift key and keep it depressed. I just now selected the file in Bridge first, set the object on the Shift key, then double-clicked on the image. That worked, so keep something a little small and a little heavy you can set on the Shift key? Maybe that will work for you?

I'm afraid I've never heard of a sticky keys program so don't know why it doesn't work.

And since Mr. Rodney keeps being upset by the description of what I'm doing to effect this, if I didn't make it clear before, let me add that Camera Raw IS being invoked by Bridge or PS (I really don't know which and don't give a hoot, either) and is operating in the background. So technically, you're still using Camera Raw. You're just not opening the file in the  Camera Raw application.

You see, technically  you can't bypass Camera Raw. You can only bypass opening the application. Apparently I wasn't being technically accurate when I sloppily said "bypass Camera Raw." It only feels like that's what you're doing.

I hope what I'm saying about this is clear enough for you to see if you can't make it work.  If you can't, let us know what OS you're running. There are some bugs flying around here.  '-}
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I should have gone through that exercise myself.  I did find an object, and it did open directly in PS.  By the way, I'm using Windows 10.  Thanks.
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I'm not upset; that's another of your assumptions.
I'm simply asking you to clarify what you wrote. I'm sorry you are upset you had to correct and clarify your original post
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Now you're just gaslighting, Andrew. The OP is satisfied, I'm satisfied. And done here.
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Gaslighting ? Again, I asked you to clarify your answer and you did correct it. Now everyone, OP or otherwise understand this is inaccurate:
There is one way into Photoshop with a raw file without going through Camera Raw. 


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If you're asking for a composite view of your layer stack in ACR (like we have in Liquify), yes this has been a feature request for more than a decade. But i think Adobe should also consider implementing an ACR adjustment layer in Ps proper.