PSE19 already?! They claim it is 'faster'

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PSE19 out already?!  I don't want to mess with a new learning curve.  Is this a RUSH job that will be full of bugs . . . or is this a 'normal timeline' for new versions of PSE?  And on their website they claim this about PSE19:  "Faster performance" -- as proven by what?!
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It can't be at the same time a nearly identical version and needing a new learning curve.

or is this a 'normal timeline' for new versions of PSE? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_Elements

So, there is nothing new, a new version every year at about the same time.

You'll notice that the new features are not very numerous and are mainly targeted at creative amateurs needing guided help and automatic features. Those new automatic features don't need much interface change and, if automatic, don't need much technical learning and understanding.

New features are not the only and main reason for yearly upgrades:
- bug fixes
- compliance with new OS  (Win or Mac), external softwares (Google Maps...), new hardware (drives, graphic cards, tablets, displays).
- performance and stability.

To some old expert users, the changes are not significant. To many enthusiast new amateurs, they may be. So it's up to each one to weigh if it's worth the upgrade. The only serious way is to test the trial version (free for 30 days) yourself. Anyway it's much too soon to get feedback from other users, and that feedback may not be significant for your own use and profile.

And on their website they claim this about PSE19:  Faster performance" -- as proven by what?!

It does not look like you have tested it, so why this agressivity?
I did install it this morning, and I have not been impressed at all with performance.
I got this answer from an expert friend:
I installed PSE 2019 on two machines. It is pretty fast on both, particularly on the one which is more powerful (a more recent purchase).

Which makes sense. I am not at home today with only a very low spec hardware available. On the other hand, most of the performances critiques on older PSE versions came from users with powerful specs and plenty of RAM. That was something really needed. Also, the automatic features require a lot of indexing to begin with. It will be easy to compare within one month if I can feel the difference on my 'normal' computer.








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DDW, 

There may be online blog rumors but no official release dates for Elements/Premier 2019 and with our strict non-disclosure agreement in forums and among employees, there cannot be a release date given.   Although there was a rumor about an October 13-17 release for a CC program from Adobe, that may not pertain to Elements, and whether it would be with or without Premier.  Spedculation is your only discussion for now.   Have a good guess-session.   

Steve Lehman, mcse   


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Michel, the Japanese means "The Adobe Community Forum has been updated."  Did you want English for that?   
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Where do you see Japanese?
My guess is that you are seeing now the message indicating that the Adobe community is not available temporarily, which explains my two links can't appear now.

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If so, try again my two links, the forum is back.
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The links you showed linked to a gray screen and had Japanese message which I converted to English, to "This Adobe community forum has been updated". This appeared at both links you had.  Don't know why but it could have been hijacked or language changed by a hijacker.   It didn't say it was temporarily closed, it said it was updated.  But it was only for a short time.  It was changed in just the 10 minutes I had been puttering-about with forum-email.   Now I have linked to that page and I find the forum you wanted me to see which shows lots of guess work among lots of guys who don't know whether it will be released on a date or another.   

For some of those guys, I am sure their information comes from another forum somewhere with MORE guys guessing on release dates elsewhere.  The is the 'norm' while a product is released, lots of rumor, in lots forums, too many guesses.   THEN one guy hits the jackpot with a promising release date and becomes king of that forum, but only for half-a-day. 

So for me at least, it has not caught my interest since I like a more solid release date, not dates that are intentionally to make a person more knowledgeable than another or for a worse example: Its purpose might only serve the old adage of "my answer (thingy) is bigger than yours".   Exxccoose me for this particular line but I couldn't resist. 

Reading through that forum page, it had no promising release date and served no purpose (to me) other than lots more guessing.   If there is a release date in that forum somewhere, no matter, I won't get the product until its bugs have been updated (fixed).  So far, 2018 has too many bugs to update and has been discarded from our "Steve" workstations.   Coming next: I wonder what complaints 2019 will bring.   Will it have all the bugs fixed from 2918 splashed onto 2019 at once?   

Will it be a CC? (something some of us won't take anymore is the CC products) as we hope we don't lose our Elements product, only to be replaced by a subscription?  If that's the case I might abandon ship. 

I liked the fact that Elements had a presence on my computer and DON'T need a yearly fee to keep it there.   Besides that they want us to NOT own our files, but to keep them on the Adobe cloud as well.  I think the subscriptions is a cheap way of marketing.  It will give companies a bad name.  It will give customers a sock in the nose.   It will only produce (what we have now) disgruntled customers who WILL refuse to pay a yearly fee.   AND most professionals do NOT want to use a cloud.  Only the young and restless photographers who drive in cars around only to hack wifi hot-spots and put their photos on a cloud only to them discarded as truncate to the garbage.  

I have lots of older elements on our workstations (you knew) and yet another Elements version came in.  One of our commercial scanners came with 3 copies of Elements version-12.  So, we'll give that a whirl.   Our version 14 lost a .dll file and won't open without it.  The .dll file is for Windows in the LCore (open systems) file-shell.  I lost that file while messing with the Windows Power Shell commands and then at the same time I poked at the Restore feature in Windows 10 for some inaccurate reason.   I think version-12 might replace the .dll file that version-14 needs.  This is only a recent problem and this has never come up in our forums.   

Sorry I'm so wordy.   My assistant website egghead-guru says I am too.   


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Agreed on the CC stuff (a lot of the other stuff I don't understand or need to).  I for one, plan on never buying any software that needs a cloud to operate.  Stupid concept to force it to ALL.  Make it a BOTH/AND not an EITHER/OR.
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What is there to 'guess' about?  PSE 19 IS here according to Adobe.  

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-premiere-elements/features.html#x
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Wella wella, I take everything back.   That's a really cool link.  Thanks DDW.   
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DDW, 

Before I buy it, tell me how many bugs it has.  I like software that's been worked over.  The price always goes down to $79.  Do I hear $55?   $45?   



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I installed Photoshop Elements 2019 today, upgraded from earlier version.  Now my iPhone 7 doesn't recognize Photoshop Elements anymore. It shows zero photos (I actually have 20k photos) ... not sure how to fix this?
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Hi there Holly,   

A guy named Michel has a fix in another forum.  Michel are ya out there?   He should take over maybe, it's his link.   He had this link to follow for this fix.  It has to do with HEIF/HEVC which recognizes vids and pix in an iphone and shares with Photoshop.  Check this link:  

Just issued, this doc:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/cannot-work-with-heic-hevc-files-in-photoshop-elements...

Steve Lehman, mcse   


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Update of my previous answer and back to the original question.

I have just installed PSE2019 on a 'normal' 8 GB PC and that makes a big difference in speed and responsiveness.

Nobody will see it, but the system requirements for Elements 2019 on Mac and Windows have been changed from 4 GB to 4 GB (8 GB recommended).
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/system-requirements.html

Too soon for a definitive conclusion, but on another forum it appears that RAM is the key factor.
Users with 16 GB or more are very happy (they were not with prior versions).
With my 8 GB, apart from a few slow features it's really faster.
I would warn new potential users wanting the new automatic features with only 4GB not to upgrade before testing the trial version (full features for 30 days). You'll pay only if you are happy.

Looking at the Windows taskbar, I can see that it seems there has been in depth work to manage memory for the various modules and automatic/bacground tasks. Keep tuned to get feedback from many more users.

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Thanks Michel... Then I guess my Dell XPS with 12 gigs of RAM will do the job.   



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I'm not sure whether Adobe marketing will be happy or not with this thread title, but the latest release of the program is called Elements 2019.  It is actually version 17.
FWIW, I can tell you anecdotally that my large catalog loads faster than 2018.
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PS19 will sit and spin wheels, does not work well at all with Mohave, not sure if ok with older versions on a MAC.