Elements 13 Photomege Error: "Panorama could not be created as some images could not be automatically aligned"

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Hi, I have just purchased PSE13 b/c I am planning to take a great Panorama Pic during summertime in Sardinia. In these days I am testing PSE 13 to see how it works.

I've took 2 different sets of pictures to create a 180° panorama with perfect alignment (tripod + "spirit level" + Artificial Horizon on my Nikon D600 camera) and overlapping but on both case I've got the same error message "Panorama could not be created as some images could not be automatically aligned".

I did several tests and this is my conclusion: PSE13 can't merge more than 15 pics!!!!

As I've 18 pics I can merge pics from 1 to 15, but if add the 16th I've the error message. I can merge pics from 3 to 18 but if i start from pic 2 I've the error message. I can of course merge pic from 2 to 17 with no error.

This demonstrate to me that there is not issue in the pics itself and their alignment but for some reason the Photomerge Panorama script of PSE can't handle more than 15 pics. And of course I did the tests with both RAW file and the same files converted in JPeg with Lightroom (just to esclude issue on the files size).

Adobe Support can you confirm this and please fix the bug?

Thank you

Anna
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The amount of internal-program-memory used by raws or full-size JPGs would be the same as it has to do with the pixel dimensions not the size on disk.

You could try resizing the JPGs somewhat smaller and see if you can get all of them to stitch that way. If the smaller ones work it could be that PSE is close to running out of memory.

I would like to try the pictures, myself, both in my PSE13 and in Photoshop to see if I can get them to work. So can you please export full-size copies to JPG, then upload the JPGs to somewhere like www.dropbox.com and post a public share link to the folder that contains them, in a message here.
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Thank you Steve. I am here sharing with you the set of pics I have used to test the capability. Pics were converted to JPG from RAW using Lightroom5 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dwyfcrekkt...). I've used the brick surface of the houses to test the alignment provided by PSE13 - NIKON D600 with a 50mm f1:4 Nikkor. I am also interested to know from you if you experience the same issue with PS....
Even if the issue is related to the 30.000 pixels constrain the error message is misleading.....

thank you in advance for your support here

Anna
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Well, be prepared to find misleading error messages everywhere. Not only in Adobe softwares. It's very common and much more annoying to get no message at all. In many cases, a misleading message may help for troubleshooting: it did help me in this case.
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Steve,
Have a look at the same discussion here:
http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums...

My suspicion is that the 30 000 pixels wide limit has been reached.
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And if so then reducing the pixel-dimensions of the original JPGs would work, although perhaps using TIFs would be better as the starting point.

Personally I use software like AutoPanoGiga that stitches well and allows tweaks for when things aren't quite right and you can certainly tell it how wide to create the result without being limited by the input size:

http://www.kolor.com/image-stitching-...

And to reply to the OP over on Elements Village, the cheapest way to get PS is to subscribe to the Photography Plan that includes both Lightroom and PS CC for half the price of PS by itself.
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PSE13 cannot stitch the image because it is larger than 30000 and gives a misleading error as you have seen:


PS can stitch the image with a width of 32,797:


But there is a stitching error due to the parallax misalignment of the foreground plants vs the background building, and PS decided to align on the plants not the building which results in the building being shifted over a bit in one shot, so when it blends things together part of one of the windows is blended into itself and the other window is shifted over:


AutoPanoGiga finds a panorama of width 32,377:


But there is still a slight glitch in the window edge due to a slight misalignment since the lens-distortion corrections weren't perfect:


APG has tools to help mitigate such problems where you can designate what portions of what overlapping pictures you want to keep (green markers) and which portions to reject (red markers):


Resulting in a perfect window edge:


Although there is a discontinuity in the bricks elsewhere that is less noticeable:
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Steve, you are a master!! tx for your great analysis. We are now certain that PSE is returning a wrong error message and the limitation of 30,000 pixels is affecting also version 13. PS is not affected by this limitation (do we have any information about this?), nor APG is.
Adobe should consider to return a proper error message from the Photmerge Script (and I have to reconsider PSE13 for my summertime panorama shooting session).

Thank you again, you did a great job!!

Anna
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Photoshop images are limited to 300,000 x 300,000 pixels. The panorama I made in PS from your JPGs could not be saved as a PSD, which PSE could open, but a PSB that allows larger dimensions.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/...

The issue with using PS for your stitching is when there is a problem--like it guessing wrong about the alignment because of the foreground plant, you cannot fix it, other than by changing the mask the blends the layers.

With something like APG you can readjust various aspects and have it re-detect and re-stitch after making tweaks. If you didn't see my post, above, APG is from http://www.kolor.com/ and the cheapest way to get Photoshop is the US$10/month PS+LR Photography Plan subscription, which would also get you LR 6 and beyond and whatever the newest PS is as long as you keep paying each month and have a connection to the internet periodically.
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I get a similar error but I think it isn't the size. I have made many (over 100 I think) panoramas using Photoshop Elements 9 from pictures I took with my Samsung Galaxy S5 phone and they work fine. But the ones it doesn't like are when I take shots inside a room from one corner and take about 5 to 8 shots while rotating the view from one opposite corner to the opposite corner 90 degrees to the right of the first corner. I know it needs some content to align on and these are empty rooms but there are doorways and light switch boxes and AC outlet boxes on the wall. I even tried just using the first two images and still got the error. Any way to fix this? I can send you the images.