ELEMENTS 12 doesn't retain Original Date & Time in filesystem when saving files

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When ever I change a picture, PSE12 changes the Date Created to the current date&time thereby destroying the original date&time. This causes the sequence of my pictures to be altered when they are exported. IMHO this is a BUG in PSE12 (Macintosh, OS 10.9.4)
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Chris Cox

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How are you reading the date created? From the OS, or from the metadata?
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The date under the thumbnail within PSE12 Organizer is not altered.

When I Save/Replace, one would expect that only the Modified date on my hard drive would be changed.

Unfortunately this is not the case.

The Create Date on my Macintosh hard drive reflects the date that the picture was modified by PSE12 thereby destroying the Create Date when the picture was taken.
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No, the Finder creation date is changed because you replaced the file with a new file (by saving).

The only date that you can count on is the one in the metadata. The Finder creation date gets changed whenever you modify the file.
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I believe that PSE12 should retain the Original Create Date in the base JPG. It is my guess that a vast majority of PSE12 users:
(1) Import their pictures into the Organizer
(2) edit said pictures in the Editor (Elements) and then
(3) save-replace the altered JPGs & then
(4) upload said pictures to a photo processor (e.g. Shutterfly, Snapfish, etc.) expecting the shooting order (Create Date) to be maintained - unfortunately PSE12 has destroyed the shoot date (i.e. original Create date).

On my Mac all of my documents such as Word, Excel, etc. retain the Create date and only change the Modify date when they are re-saved and, IMHO, that is what PSE12 should do. PSE12 should treat the JPG as though it is being re-saved (i.e. Modified) instead of treating it as a NEW JPG/picture in the base file.

IMHO not doing so is a disservice to your users.

Is there a work-around to insure that the original Create date is retained?
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It does retain it, in the metadata.
The filesystem date cannot be maintained.
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If Microsoft Word & Excel can retain the Create Date information, I don't see why PSE12 cannot do the same.

IMHO it is important that the original create date be preserved. My wife & I both take pictures while on vacation (we synchronize our cameras, SONY & NIKON, with the same date & time). Were we to skip PSE12 editing altogether and uploaded our JPGs to our photo processor, said JPGs could be sequenced by "date taken" thus insuring the pictures of the same scene taken at roughly the same time would appear side-by-side in our photo processor. Since PSE12 destroys the Create Date & Time when a JPG is altered this is not possible.

IMHO retaining the Create Date & Time should be a TOP PRIORITY as a revision to PSE12 or a new release (PSE13?).