Photoshop: How do I remove window bar and grey background on Mac in CS6? (Application Frame)

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Hello,

As you can see in this capture, PS CS6 shows a window bar (unnecessary, IMHO) in starndard window mode. This bar didn ́t apear in PS CS5... Is there a way to remove it? Thanks!

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As long as you have Photoshop in a window, there has to be a window frame.

If you turn off the app frame (Window->Application Frame), then there is no window frame.
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Official Response
To return to the Photoshop CS5 behavior on Mac choose Window>Application Frame to toggle the Application Frame off.
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Great! Thank you Chris and Jeffrey!
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Oh thx god .. i can not stand it, why stopped working on windows platform.

For me on the laptop screen it takes up to much space, and the osx window shadows now go over the tool pallets, so annoying...

thx for question and answer...
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Thanks Jeff!!!
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awesome! this was a big help!
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Please bring back the transparent background from CS-5 photoshop. I really hate the new themes and liked much better when I could see my desktop. I'm on Mac OS 10.8.2 and I always have files on my desktop that I'm working on. Now I cannot see them because of the additional window that opens with photoshop, very annoying.

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Annoying themed backgrounds.
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Maybe I'm overlooking something, but the big black window that comes up when I fire up Photoshop gets in the way of everything else when I'm switching back and forth between Adobe programs and my desktop. I now have to add an extra step, reveal desktop, to get to things that are saved on my desktop. I would like the option in Photoshop to have the same window functionality of past versions, where panels are dockable to the sides of the screen and not just to the obtrusive black window that always stays up (it would be nice to hide that window as well). Thanks for your time.

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Photoshop CS6: Application Frame gets in my way..
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was this ever resolved? i have the same problem- i don't like this window and wish it didn't exist
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dan schwartzman

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window>application frame??
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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Correct.
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!!!!!
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Jfit

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Thank you thank you! that feature drove me crazy.
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Paul Clark

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This is great, but now when I open a new file it is positioned at 0,0 underneath my tools window. Is there any relief for this?
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Sounds like your Options bar isn't docked to the top of the screen nor your Tool bar to the left edge of the screen. If those panels are floating, then the document is placed at the screen origin. Drag the tool bar and tool options bar to edge until you get a blue highlight that allows you to dock them to the edge of the screen.
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You are the best! Thanks so much!
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Michael Sammler

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This was my next question. Thanks again!!!
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Thanks You! My boss usually starts swearing once a week because of that Application Frame. That "feature" alone has made him really think about going back to Photoshop 5. He hates it that much.

The fact that when you close it and it closes all other windows is responsible for him loosing his progress on more than a few files. BTW, he's aware that the "do you want to save" dialog box will pop up if files have not been saves, but he thinks he is just closing the grey frame and clicks Don't save.
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THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER!!! :)

I HATE THIS NEW FEATURE!!! :oP
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Oh gosh, I'm so glad I found this. Thanks for posting this solution!!

Also, Adobe, I'm confused by the fact that this a default behavior in CC. I really can't envision a scenario in which the user is better served by having a huge blank gray box appear in the middle of their screen after they've already acted with the intention to *clear* their workspace (i.e. via closing an open window or windows). It's like Photoshop's version of a pop-under ad.
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You might want to ask Apple why they are moving all apps to having an application frame/blocking window.
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Add me to the list of people who think this is just about the dumbest feature imaginable. Why can't you turn this off in Preferences? I had to do an internet search to find the solution.
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You can turn it off, as explained above.

And, again, Apple is moving to applications that cover the entire screen, as Windows has done for many years.
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Terry Wilson

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Yes, and that scares me. It's one of the most horrible things about Windows.
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I completely agree. Windows made working with Adobe products very difficult which is why most designers and photographers use Apple.
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Chris, you are wrong. Apple may be moving towards more single-window applications, which when maximized cover the whole screen, but PhotoShop is not a single window application. Nor should it be.
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Read about the difference between a document window and an app window here:

https://developer.apple.com/library/m...

Also read this, starting with "The App Style Determines the Core Architecture":

https://developer.apple.com/library/m...

iPhoto is a "Single-window library-style app", which does not generally open files from the Finder, but instead completely hides the file structure and uses its own browsing pane instead, with predetermined organizational structure and no user-controlled opening, closing, or saving of files. That is not how PhotoShop users work, or want to work, on files.
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What's funny is I apparently did this very search when I upgraded to CS6 because this year after installing CC '14, I spent an hour in frustration looking all over the Preferences to get rid of this darned thing then gave up and did a Google search. This link was colored as visited in my Google results. :) And here I am re-reading the instructions I read a couple years ago–on how to get rid of this and so thankful to Jeffrey for letting us know where to look. Why wouldn't this be in Preferences under "interface?" Why have this application frame in the first place? And why turn it on by default?
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Actually, to make the Mac version look like modern Apple/Mac applications that hide the background. If you do not like Apple's direction in applications, please let Apple know.
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»If you do not like Apple's direction in applications, please let Apple know.«
Valid advice, I’m afraid ... 
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heh, i too keep having to google for this answer every year or so. i keep looking in preferences too!
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Don't blame Apple. None of my other apps, including those from Apple, have a big, useless, obnoxious, solid-color backdrop window like this, whose only purpose seems to be for blocking me from seeing other apps or the desktop, or from being able to drag and drop to and from other apps. I too had to search the Web to figure out how to hide that. It is a user-hostile feature that should not be turned on by default.
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Chris Cox, I think you are conflating the behavior of single window applications (like iPhoto) with a tendency to hide all other applications with any one Apple application, even if it is a multi-document-window application, and that is just not the same thing at all.
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Hi,

I would like to turn off this Application Frame in CC PS 2014 and Window >> Application Frame isn't an option available for me :(

Please help anyone???
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"Window >> Application Frame isn't an option available for me :( "

Really? Why would your PS be different than everyone else's? Maybe your screen is small and you need to scroll down to the bottom, but Window > Application Frame is there.
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"Window >> Application Frame isn't an option available for me :( "

Really? Why would your PS be different than everyone else's? Maybe your screen is small and you need to scroll down to the bottom, but Window > Application Frame is there.
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Just re-reading comments and realized this forum question is for MAC. :(

Unfortunately after 6 years on MAC I had to switch to PC this week, so I guess it needs to be clarified that I am on Windows. So this may be the issue.

This is pretty much the only site I could find discussing the Application Frame removal beyond CS6, so not sure where else to go at this point, but does anyone possible know if the Application Frame can be turned off in Windows?

If not I may jump off my balcony - this "feature" is hands down the most traumatizing "feature" ever. Not really... but almost really.
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On Windows, the application frame is required in all applications. That's just the way Microsoft wants applications to work.
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Good gracious. I can't even wrap my brain around this.

Thank you :( :( :(
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Not what I wanted to find. I pretty much exclusively use a Pc because of the machine itself but man... I miss MacOS
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled How do i remove the application frame (PS CC)?.

How can i remove the application frame in photoshop CC, it is not in the same place as it was in CS6.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop project windows block all other application windows..

I primarily use Photoshop for Mac for my work. I will have many PS floating project files open at the same time (not uncommon to have 25+) as well as many other application windows open.

In past versions of PS, I could have other application windows (eg. Preview, Safari, Quicktime, etc.) open and in front of PS project windows that were not currently being used. This was immensely helpful for my workflow as I could view content/reference from another application in a window alongside my active PS project window and maximize my screen real estate, while I work.

I recently upgraded to PS CC. I find that whenever I have Photoshop as the active application, EVERY photoshop project window I have open, active or not, trumps every other open application window. This has stymied my workflow and made things very frustrating as I cannot see reference that is displayed in another application window.

It is a bit difficult to explain this behavior correctly. Is there a solution to allow other application windows to sit in front of PS project windows while PS is active?

Photoshop: 2014.2.1
OSX: Yosemite 10.10.1
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This is a great conversation that's separate from the main one, so I created a new conversation to continue the discussion.

Please reference the new conversation here: Photoshop floating windows stay on top of other applications
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Message for Chris: This is NOT what I am referring to. I already have the application bar turned off. This is a separate issue. Please read again.

My previous post was addressing that the inactive, floating file windows in PS CC ALWAYS trump and sit on top of other inactive application windows when Photoshop is the active program.

This was not the case In CS5. Open inactive windows from other applications could sit on top of inactive PS file windows while Photoshop was the active program.

**Example: I am watching Netflix on Safari while working in Photoshop with 50 open PS file windows. I click on the safari window, it is brought to the front of my workspace. I THEN click on one of the file windows in Photoshop. Now, this active PS file is on top of the Safari window, but the Safari window is on top of the 49 other PS file windows. This is what I want to happen. Does this make sense?
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I read it several times trying to figure out what you were referring to, and the application frame seemed closest to your description.

So I've branched it back to it's own topic.
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With all due respect Chris, anyone who works on more than one PS file at a time surely understands this problem.

Let's say you have a bunch of source image files open, and one new one using elements from some of the others. And you need to make the new image match up to a wbsite's colors and whatnot. So after dragging some elements into the new file, now you're ready to work mostly in the new file and a safari page, but you still want the other 5 files open in case you want to add some other stuff; haven't finalized your design yet, whatever. And you have a couple of other files open just because you aren't finished with them. So at this point, you want to fiddle with just the safari window and your one new design. Click over to safari, fine. Now click on your new design's window... Acckkkk! All of the PS windows stick together and come to the top obscuring safari and any chance of sampling colors or otherwise referring to the web page.

This makes me crazy.
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In other words, document windows should be interleavable with document windows of other applications, as it the Mac convention.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Need to hide the unnecessary interface screen that sits behind the displayed work....

Is there any way to get rid of that unnecessary and very annoying interface screen that appears in the background in addition to the file I'm working on, in Photoshop CC ? As a kludgy workaround tried just minimizing its window size on the screen, but that then makes my files open at ridiculously tiny microscopic screen sizes like .07% and I have to manually resize them - so that's not an acceptable workaround, I work with lots of files quickly.

I need visual access to my desktop while I work and this thing completely blocks what's left of an already cluttered workspace, and I have a big screen. I can't believe this is part of the interface with no way to get rid of it. What purpose does it serve? Tech support Chat didn't know, I just finished my chat with them.

There has to be a way to get this off my screen, it's very disruptive to my very busy workflow - is anyone else having difficulty with this? Please reply ASAP with a fix, tech people and engineers, thanks! - kennykiernan@me.com
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Need to hide the unnecessary interface screen that sits behind the displayed work....

Is there any way to get rid of that unnecessary and very annoying interface screen that appears in the background in addition to the file I'm working on, in Photoshop CC ? As a kludgy workaround tried just minimizing its window size on the screen, but that then makes my files open at ridiculously tiny microscopic screen sizes like .07% and I have to manually resize them - so that's not an acceptable workaround, I work with lots of files quickly.

I need visual access to my desktop while I work and this thing completely blocks what's left of an already cluttered workspace, and I have a big screen. I can't believe this is part of the interface with no way to get rid of it. What purpose does it serve? Tech support Chat didn't know, I just finished my chat with them.

There has to be a way to get this off my screen, it's very disruptive to my very busy workflow - is anyone else having difficulty with this? Please reply ASAP with a fix, tech people and engineers, thanks! - kennykiernan@me.com
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Thanks Chris, that worked!!

I'm on a mac - unchecked Application Frame.