Camera Raw/Bridge: Missing Straighten Tool

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After upgrade to PS CC 2020 21.2 ACR 12.3.0.493 is missing straighten tool. This should be basic functionality of the product. Geometry DOES NOT work like straighten tool, in that a minimum of two lines vs. one line must be drawn.
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https://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2020/06...

The Crop Tool — The Crop, Straighten, and Rotate tools have been combined into a single panel.
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I don't see the straighten tool in the crop tool. The straighten tool defined as "draw a single line and the image levels to that line." Sure, I can rotate (by shrinking my view window to less than fit). Maybe I'm calling it by the wrong name, level tool or straighten tool. I'm not seeing that functionality in 21.2.
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I don't see the straighten tool in the crop tool. 

Again, IT IS THERE and works as it always has:


Select it, Click and Drag.

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Oh, geez. OK. Thanks.
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You are (geez ) welcome. 
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I admire your patience, Andrew...  If people would phrase things just a little more positively, there would perhaps be less of the tone that seems to come up so often.  

Just and example: in this thread, the OP wrote (in part) "is missing straighten tool. This should be basic functionality of the product."

My reaction would have been better, had that have been phrased as "How do I find the Straighten tool in the updated UI for ACR?"

Gets to the same issue but more nicely, does not evoke any sense of antagonism.  (The OP was not in any way antagonistic as some posters have certainly been, but the subtleties to which I point would make this forum a more pleasant experience for others...)

(as you can see, this was directed at the general audience and not towards OP)
 I would like to encourage a collegial, helpful, dialogue twixt posters and responders!
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I think if the panels evolve to be moveable and closeable (some I never use, and they need to be able to all fit on a screen), and short-cuttable many of the current issues will be solved.  Oh and the option of old -style cropping.

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The irritating part of the "upgrade" - well one of the 842 irritating things, is that if you use the straighten/leveling tool, it reverts back to the Edit panel when you're done, and you have to then re-choose/re-click the damn crop tool to use the leveling tool again. I shoot hundreds of photos of property on the Gulf of Mexico and need to use the leveling tool on image after image. Gone are the days when I could just reach up to the tools at the top and grab that straighten/leveling tool with a single click.  

You know what really kills me is that now there is this vast unused area where that old toolbar was at the top, and they could use that the exact same way tools are laid out in the toolbar in Photoshop. The entire top row could be one-click access to to about 20 tools. Now I have to make three times of number of clicks to get to those tools. What an absurd design/"upgrade"   
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My (temporary) fix is to reduce the UI scaling in Bridge to 100% and text size to the maximum, then you can have most of the panels open if you have a big enough screen.  Not sure my eyes will cope though.   Really need panel control like you get in Premiere/Photoshop etc.

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Judging from the number of questions and posts, 21.2 came as both a surprise and a shock for many Photoshop users. There were a lot of problems identified in 21.1.3 that I'm probably not the only one looking for fixes for when the word "UPDATE" appeared on my CC app. Andrew, I appreciate your patience with those of us that feel like a brick or two have landed on our head with this release. Perhaps we should have kept up with Julianne Kost 's webinars and blogs, but, well, a lot has been going on in the world and many of us who depend on this product for our livelihoods are fighting like hell just to keep our businesses open.

In a separate thread, a poster who identified himself as working for IBM lamented the fact that significant functional and user interface change was introduced in a maintenance release. I couldn't agree with that poster more. I have been actively using Photoshop since 3.5 in 1998. At that time, I was a Certified Architect in IBM. To be certified as an architect, one also had to meet the qualifications for certification as a Project Manager and Management Consultant. There were 300 Certified Architects in IBM at the time. So I have a little bit of experience with this product and a lot of experience developing, delivering and maintaining software.

It is also confusing as to where to go to get help. At one point, I thought I understood it to be in the Adobe Support Community, and in previous releases when I reported bugs that's where I went, but I've seen several posts that said if you think there's a problem, come to the Photoshop Family page. OK, I'm here, I'm confused because an every day function that was on the top bar was moved to a dialog that I have to intentionally open, and then while it's the same icon, it's not intuitive, at least to me, to have it off to the right of an angle control. Forgive me for being confused, and frustrated, but don't shame me. It doesn't help. It doesn't help me have confidence that I'm being supported and it doesn't help to get it when coming from the "Community" to the "Family." Just saying. This is a really hard way to figure out all of the sudden and dramatic changes to an already super-complicated product.

On a professional photographers group I am a part of, we have had a separate conversation regarding whether or not to load 21.2 In response to suggesting that folks consider waiting because of the volume change, problems not fixed (performance is still an issue that seems to be getting worse) and new challenges, I made the following comment:

"I do want to clarify, we’re going through a rough patch on PS, but it is still by and large the strongest tool on the market for photo post. It’s also possible some issues could reasonably chalked up to COVID (I can see how it could impact QA process). That being said, it’s all the more important to slow down releasing some of the gee-whiz-bangs and focus on quality."

I stand by that comment. I am not trying to be critical of any one, and most especially, Adobe. The day that I met Terry White, I swore I would never denigrate the company.


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While i'm a huge advocate for change, Adobe should always keep in mind that there are professionals who need to use their apps for 8-10 hours/day and that small adjustments to tools can have profound effects on our workflow and therefore, livelihood. 
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I agree - I do not understand why Adobe made this change at all.  I have a lot of work I've been waiting to get to and there's no way I can work with ACR 12.3 or any changes made in Bridge. I can't express how disappointed I am with you, Adobe.  You've been my shining star for years. 
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I have been an advocate for PS and associated products for years. I fully support change where necessary but only changes for the better. There may be a reason why the tools were moved over to the right and a blank space left at the top- I don't see one but could live with it. What I can't understand is why the functional, speedy and super-efficient crop tool would be replaced by a clunky, inefficient and counter-intuitive piece of rubbish!!