Lightroom: Program Naming Convention - Needs To Be Addressed

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Hi Team

I am all about the new, however this recent LR update idea is Bananans & Confusing To Say The Least. 

1. Firstly if we go for the all new all singing all dancing LR (cloud based) solution with limited application use in V1. Do we then have to pay £££ $$$ for the additional space that RAW or Original files will use to store in the cloud as you refer to them as for cloud storage... If yes this will be ridiculous as Apple & Google already offer solutions for iPhone images that could simply be for Free.

2. In addition to this not many people have data allowance that support that kind of upload, I have a 50gb limit on my mobile on 4G and cannot upload to my chosen account due to network issues & already costs me £80+ PM, if I use home BB which is rated with Virgin as 50mb, which costs me £35 PM, it still takes over night, so realistically this product is not going to support RAW 25mb or high files easily unless you only shoot occasionally.

The TMA ie mobile phone user is never going to pay for this when they can get this for free, I get unlimited TB/ PT storage for £125 per year, currently running at over 80TB, which has taken me years to upload to. 

3. You need to declare exactly how you will be using the ML Sensei data searches for images, as technically, it could cause copyright infringements in the future especially with the new laws on CC and digital artwork coming in vs Commercial property and Intellectual Rights. Let alone privacy rights.

4. I feel that the LR product you are introducing as actually LR Mobile with cloud storage, ie a bridge of two, yet you do not refer to it, also it is actually a lesser performer than your ipad app, which is already really good, so not sure what you are trying to pull here, but it does sound that Adobe is about to pull yet more money from its customers, ie the Corporates. Keep Students, Low Users & Corporate / Business separate, as there are a lot of other solutions out there for free for basic editing especially for App based

I decided not move my work flows away from Adobe to reduce my overheads as a single business operator, as I could not see why as a Photographer / Videographer the Suite was worth the money per month. LR used to cost £49 for a CD/Card, now its going to cost £££ PM, really, you have saved on the production of sales materials, yet charge more, use more & give us less.....time to move I feel
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Victoria Bampton - Lightroom Queen, Champion

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If you go with the new LR CC, yes, you need to pay for additional storage, depending on how many photos you have and which plan you're on. Lightroom Classic continues to use local storage, as it always has done though.

There's no expectation that the new LR CC app is going to suit everyone, even for a few years yet. Limited internet speeds and bandwidth will be one of the biggest barriers for many people.

There is some information on Sensei here, which might be a start for you: https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/machine-learning-faq.html

I wouldn't worry too much about the future at this point, as no one knows exactly how it'll work out. It's a huge change, and it'll all shake out over the next few years. Other companies will also be rushing to jump into Adobe's shoes, so we should have much better options in the next few years, and then be able to make an informed decision.
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I agree with Victoria, just ignore Lightroom CC (it is NOT the latest and greatest, only the latest). LR Classic is not going away, unless Adobe WANTS to lose 3⁄4 of their photo business.
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"I agree with Victoria, just ignore Lightroom CC (it is NOT the latest and greatest, only the latest). LR Classic is not going away, unless Adobe WANTS to lose 3⁄4 of their photo business."  

Just the naming of "Classic" tells you that it WILL go away.  And when that does, I'm going away.
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Maybe it will at some time, but Adobe are in the business of making money... they're not likely to get rid of profitable software until they have something for most of their customers to move to.
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I would love to ignore CC, but what about using Classic and still using CC/Mobile on devices?  Collections sync fine and show up, but new images from said mobile devices are unreliably (at best) syncing back up to the main catalog.  I'll shoot 10 photos on the phone (mix of iOS camera + LR camera for RAW) and 3 or 4 will download to Classic.  The rest, just... don't.  They do show up in CC though and are auto-importing successfully just not making the full trip back to the Classic catalog.  Except when they do.  This is really troubling and I pretty much have to micromanage the exchange and manually import the exceptions.  Which undermines the entire point of using LR Mobile/CC.  Any thought on this?
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Victoria Bampton - Lightroom Queen, Champion

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Do they safely make it to the cloud Steve? You can check at https://lightroom.adobe.com. That'll help narrow down where it's going wrong. I think Adobe probably underestimated how many people would jump in with both feet and start uploading, so it may just be delayed downloading. I hope.
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Steve Clark

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Well in my case it wasn't really a case of choosing to jump in.  It just started happening of its own accord.  I'm giving CC a wide berth for the foreseeable future, but have high hopes for the coming years. They do make it to the cloud, and every other device linked to the account.  It's only certain images that don't make it back to the main "Classic" catalog.  (hate that term.)  haha thanks for your response.
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Hi All 

Thank you for your comments on this please see my other more recent thread on this....a serious reality check for Adobe.... I feel.... Time is money.... Adobe have I feel really let me down.... I am no longer trading.... beaware
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Hi Karl,

1 & 2. It sounds like your data connection isn't really suited for Lightroom CC. Lightroom Classic still supports the classic desktop workflows (truth on desktop - local backup strategy) with proxy (smart previews - small files) support for mobile workflows (and won't clog your data connection) If you don't need large original files in the cloud, then you don't need extra storage or storage costs.

3. See: https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/machine-learning-faq.html You can disable Sensei (cloud computing/machine learning if you want) https://accounts.adobe.com/security/privacy 

4. Lightroom CC is the cloud first workflow (truth in cloud - cloud hosted backup) and was renamed along with the mobile and web components to show that they are a complete cloud photography eco-system. It sounds like this isn't the right solution for your workflow or pocketbook.

Hope this helps.
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