Lightroom Classic: Problems with "Profiles" in Develop

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One of the main reasons I've stayed with Lightroom over the years has been the program's support for x-rite passport camera profiles to get the most accurate color possible.  Unfortunately, when Adobe changed Lightroom's structure for presets, things have not worked nearly as well, and getting to those presets has been more time consuming, and now trying to improve that, I'm having even more problems that leave me wondering where the files are or if we can even manage them now.

Even this forum, if I try to add more than one screen-shot appears to be causing the posting process to malfunction and lose what I've done, so I'm going to need to use responses to my original post to elaborate.

Problems are that the pulldown does not include my profiles..and using "browse" requires 4-5 steps to do what used to take only 1.  (browse, scroll, click to select, scroll back up and select "close") not nearly as useful as prior to "update" tp presets where it was click, select, boom, done.

Now, I have found that going into browse, I can click on thumbnails to un-favorite some of the Adobe profiles, and click on mine to have them added, but I see no way to alter/adjust/modify the order of the items in the pull-down.

I decided to try going into Roaming/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles and put an option of my profile saying 1-profile name to hopefully get it to appear before those beginning with "Adobe...", but changing names of the DCP files, not even showing up in LR.

This is just one more thing that is really making me frustrated and angry, as the most recent update to LR Classic caused the program to dump all of my watermarks from the catalog I've been using, and I had to manually go and add all them.

For a "user friendly" program, stuff that used to just work now requires us to jump in and make the sausage by hand, but not just that, we need to research and get help to know what they changed most recently so we can know how to jump in and manually do that... instead of before, when this stuff just worked.

AURGH!!!

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This is AFTER adding "1-D5 (2016 25 Hours) to the profiles folder, but does not appear anywhere.   There should be 2 options that match/are compatible with the camera used, but it is only showing one.
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Camera profiles have an internal name, saved inside the file itself. The file name is not used. You can change the internal name using the free Adobe DNG Profile Editor app.
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Select an image with your profile applied to it and export it as DNG. Then open this DNG in the Profile Editor app. Enter a name in the Options tab and then use 'File - Export profile' to export a new copy of your profile.
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Thanks, I'll try that... leave it to Adobe to make it so easy and intuitive to simply change the name of a camera profile.
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Hi Johan,
I noticed on another thread you mentioning that there's nothing wrong with the new camera profile / adobe set up etc while researching the problem many people other are having with not being able to easily change the default colour profile to their cameras setting. 
I want to set up my develop module with camera neutral (Nikon) colour profile as a default. Every time I do this and move to the next photo, LR reverts to Adobe's colour profile. I don't want to have to sync all the imported images under my chosen picture profile every time I import them so that the chosen profile sticks.
Is there a way to choose the camera neutral v2 default and have it stay there permanently unless I decide to change it?
Thanks
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This is an old thread. Adobe has changed the way you setup camera defaults in version 9.3. You now do this by creating a preset, and then set this preset as the default. You can add a camera profile in a preset, so what you want is easy to do. Setting up or changing a default does not change any settings of exisitng images, however. It only affects newly imported images. To change the profile of existing images, change it in one image and then synchronize only this item with all other images.
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Awesome! I just deleted a few thousand new RAW images and reimported them after  changing the default preferences in LR and everything seems to have worked out. Much appreciated!
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Ummm, I posted 4 photos, now there are only 2... what gives
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I removed two posts because they were (seemed?) empty posts. Something may have gone wrong, sorry.
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When I posted them, they had 1 screen shot in each..   unfortunately, adding photos into this forum has been malfunctioning more than it has worked
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I apologize. I hope you got your answer anyway.
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If you mean the DNG Profile Editor program... it does not seem very helpful, as it won't open the DCP profiles to allow me to edit the internal name.  The program appears locked to work with only DCPR or DNG.

Thus, the problem really isn't solved
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See above
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So, I followed Johan's info above, however, 2 problems..

The first and most obvious, it did not bring the custom profile to the top of the list, even though by an alpha sort with the leading "1" it should come first.

Second problem, going between the two D500 profiles, the look of the image being displayed changes slightly.. but they should be identical, if the profiles are identical.

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Note, the inserted photo was dumped when I first tried to post.. Houston, we really have a problem.. I had to edit it to get it back in.. will it stay... who knows
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This post indicates two methods for renaming .dcp profiles, Xrite's free DNG ProfileManager and the free utility Dcptool:
https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=98283.0

The DNG ProfileManager is easier to use.
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Thanks, yes, the X-Rite worked much better/easier.

Unfortunately, the "adobe color" at the top stays there regardless, only option I've found is to deselect it in favorites and remove it.