Photoshop: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

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I'm using a high resolution monitor(2560x1600). As a result, all the the toolbar fonts and menu fonts are small and hard to see. I do not want to lower the screen resolution as this would defeat the purpose of this monitor.. Will the new CS6 have the ability to increase font sizes to accommidate Hi-Res monitors?

Thanks

Ron Acevedo
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The menus and palettes in CS5 are way too small. This is going to be an insurmountable obstacle for some users, and a definite annoyance for everyone else. It would be very helpful if the menus and palettes could be re-sized. I'm seriously considering returning my purchase and going back to my old version simply for the convenience and ease of having decent-sized tools. This is a very fundamental problem in an otherwise fantastic program and needs to be addressed.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Menus and palettes in CS5 are way too small and can't be re-sized..
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Thanks.
How many separate threads are here and elsewhere, that address this product deficiency?
Why are there no intra-version PTF's offered by Adobe for their products?
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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I merge the topics into one authoritative topic to track all the votes/comments on specific issues. That way all the "me toos" get collected better than a bunch of random threads.

We do provide updates/dot releases/patches for our products. Photoshop is on version 12.0.4 (meaning 4 updates to address the most critical issues) Camera Raw has had 6 updates for new camera support and bug fixes, and Elements has 3 updates since it's release (2 on win 3 on mac).

As Chris said on the other thread, Photoshop has never had a feature to change the scale of the UI in the way that's being suggested on this thread. It's not simply a bug fix. It's a large scale change/feature.
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Jeffrey Tranberry, Sr. Product Manager, Digital Imaging

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To answer you question about how many different threads, I've merged one other request into this one.
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William Geiger

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The "let them eat cake" attitude remains. We are not telling you how to fix the problem, that is the job of the software developer, Adobe. We are simply stating that the menus are unreadable and they need to be made larger. If Adobe wants to maintain market share, they need to fix this problem. It is one fix for the entire product line, unless of course, OOP technology is not being used here.
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Hi Jeffrey, thanks for merging keeps all of us having the same problem together. Now is there going to be a correction to all software PSE and Photoshop, for those who are having problems seeing our menus and such? Its long overdue
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Microsoft with it Windows operating systems and suites of products has invested time and effort to support people with seeing issues. The code base for Microsoft must be huge in comparison to Adobe, but they invested the time and effort.

So come on aAdobe, do the right thing and make some announcement soon, before this thread get covered in cobwebs
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I have just upgraded to CS6. Cost me a lot of money - but I can't use it. Will Adobe be supplying eye tests and spectacles to customers? Or was the magnifying-glass left out of my software box?

Adobe - please listen, please act. The icons/tool panels are too small.
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William Geiger

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This Adobe UI Issue remains unaddressed after twelve months since first identified here; and in the meantime, a new issue of software has been released with the same problem as well. Ostridge Adobe still has its head in the sand and continues to claim that the sun is not shining while the beach gets hotter and hotter.
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Since it says "under consideration", and the only Adobe reply is that they can't comment on specifics regards to future versions. We will just have to hope that this means that they are working on it.
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William Geiger

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It is not a new version issue; it is basic functionality issue that should have been addressed by a bug-fix, a long time ago! No, we don't have to "hope" for anything! Our option is to deal with the learning curve and move on to other software. If you guys and gals explored this option, you would discover that Adobe has done you a favor by not supporting its products in an appropriate and timely fashion. Earlier I posted some of these alternatives here. They were, off course, immediately redacted.
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I'd like to see Adobe provide a free fix of some kind, but don't expect that will happen.
In any case I still like the software very much, especially the new ACR.
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I came to the forum to find out how to make the icons, text, and nodes bigger in CS6, and stumbled upon this thread. I bought a new higher end laptop, the screen is 17.3 with a 1920x1080 rez and I almost have my face on the screen trying to see everything. The nodes in Illustrator are microscopic, and the menu type is fixed size so that no matter what I set my text to be in windows (right now at 125%), nothing in CS6 pays any attention. I do not wear glasses, and though my near sight is a little foggy at 45, I see pretty well. I don't have a problem with any other software so far. Adobe, you need to address this.

I honestly can't for the life of me figure out why the laptop industry thinks we have to have HD on such small screens, but that is the case. There is only one manufacturer who has 17.3 at 1600x900, and I figure that will go away as well, because the tech industry pokes fun at them. (As if they know what we all want)
But I digress.

I paid hundreds (thousands) of dollars for software that gives me a migraine. Please Adobe, let us size the interface larger or smaller for what is comfortable. Even your website has text that is waaaaaaay to small on my monitor. Apparently, your fixed type size also does not care what I set my computer for. :( I think this is bad form.
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I'm one of those 'aging' designers Adobe expects to change their careers, if they can't read the CS-n menu's anymore. A year ago I had a new high-res 24 inch monitor. Sent it back because I could not find any way to adjust fontsize and user interface in my CS4. Now I'm still working on my old CRT screen hoping for better days.
I want to have a CHOICE.
I want to adjust my workspace the way I like. Even my chair has more options than Adobe' s "Creative" Suite.
I want to choose menucolors, fontsizes, screensizes, resolutions, dotpitches, aspect ratio's etc. etc.
I don't play games or watch DVD's on my monitor screen. I design books and websites and that is my JOB.
I want to work for at least 8 hours a day with all the CS software without getting headaches and eyestrain.
Machines and software are supposed to serve ME, not the other way around.

Time to check out alternatives. If there are any.
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I agree. I can't see the small type in Photoshop and there is no way to adjust it. Adobe needs to respect their customers more and make this correction.
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I'm glad this topic is still getting comments. We need to keep reminding Adobe that this should be one of their highest priorities.

Can anyone explain to me why this is even a big deal? It seems to me the assets necessary for a larger interface have ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED for Retina and all Adobe has to do is give the rest of us access to them.
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I've been using CS6 for so long now, that I have developed a natural "Photoshop squint".
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^ lol
:)
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There are no comfortable alternatives except to code-in the freekin UI settings to be larger in icons and text menus ,.. honestly, you can set a layers box to be large enough on a wider monitor but not the stinking tool bar ... c'mon people!!!!! this is an easy fix that is necessary not just FOR eyesight issues but a comfortable workflow. Too tiny an icon makes it take longer actually be fast and select it. not everyone uses hot keys for EVERYTHING... fix the darn options so users can mk those things that we want bigger so it's easier to work. monitors are getting wider horizontally more than vertically.. so larger icons in the toolbar will not take up space alot as it would on a smaller monitor of old.... that being said,..CHANGE THE DARN OPTIONS ALREADY !!!!!!!!! I mean really!!!!! it's large enough in a layers palette ,.. and you can't do that for other components in the interface ......??? Adobe,.. wake up!!!!
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I can't believe Adobe have not fixed this problem already. CS7?
FIX IT PLEASE ADOBE, no more squinting (squinting and straining causes blindness, seriously) (Office 2013 fonts are beautiful)
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I am using CS 6 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro 3200x1800 resolution. Only Adobe has microscopic menus and icons. Beyond unbelievable to me, as these programs are designed for professionals who will most likely be using high resolution monitors. How is it possible that they could be so indifferent to the basic needs of their core market? How to get through to somebody who can answer that?
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Dave,
Suspect escalation would be a waste of effort here. Typically management attitude at the top rolls down to the bottom. Regards WHG
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I'm not so sure. There are a heck of a lot of comments being redacted in this thread leaving the impression the problem isn't all that severe.
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Hi Eric, see the official answer. We've added a feature for 2X support in the 2014 release of Photoshop CC.
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While the problem may have been addressed in PS, the micro-sized interface in ID and AI requires tweaking the UI size via Windows Advanced Prefs, a sorry solution at best.
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This issue so infuriates me that a company as big and trusted as Adobe can not make a product customers with a HiRes monitor can see. If you can make a workaround for Photoshop CC, why can't if be made for Bridge and ACR? Different teams, right???? So tired of that lame answer.
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Photoshop CC 2014 works just fine on high res Windows systems. And ACR and Bridge are different teams that waited for Photoshop to work out the issues on Windows first.
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Dear Chris,

may I ask in how Photoshop CC 2014 works fine on high res Windows system? I ask this question because I have Photoshop CC 2014 on a high res Windows system. I have to use a scale of 150% on windows 7 system. If I use the Photoshopo 200% scaling it doesn ́t work. The programm is not useable this way because the menus come too big.
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Hi Patrik, Please see my comment above. We're investigating a change that will correct this for you (allow you to scale Menus independent of the Photoshop UI scaling pref).
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I have to say that I am not satisfied with the UI scaling of Adobe Photoshop CC. It is only a 200% version of the old UI.
Because of that I will stop my adobe creative cloud account till this problem will be solved in an acceptable manner.
And this could take some time :-)
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And I repeat, at risk of being removed again, that from the perspective of the end users, the customers, that my screenshots illustrate very clearly the issue at hand. The answer that it's a Microsoft issue would only hold water if all your apps behaved thusly, then, by extension, the problem lies with how Photoshop handles/implements the API's, correct?
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No, it means that some apps are not using the same APIs, some apps draw all their own UI (and avoid some of the issues), and that you are missing the problems that we (and Microsoft) know exist in other applications.
All you can show is that you do not see the problems - yet Microsoft and other developers DO see and understand the problems. Logically, Microsoft and application developers know a lot more about what is going on with the APIs -- and we're working together to get those OS issues solved or at least find reasonable workarounds. This is a much bigger problem than you seem to understand, and it can't be solved instantly.
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"instantly"???? I can listen to you tell every new person who buy a HiRez laptop the same thing 90% of the time. But, come on, 3 years of complaints has far exceeded your "instantly". I try to only follow everything these days since all of us that voice our opinions are usually deleted instantly. I notice you still have your smiling face aviator....they must pay you some really big bucks. Have a nice Friday night.
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Chris, I have Adobe Suite CC for 12 months now. When I started one year ago I had this problem with Photoshop CC UI scaling. Then you said that you are working with microsoft to solve the problem.
I wonder how long you would like to say this sentence to frustrated customers like me.
For years and years?
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We appreciate the problem "can't be solved instantly" on earth, but certainly not around some black hole where time almost virtually stops.
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Hi again, one more issue in this terrible issue: it was told by someone that there was a fix in a releas candidate for Camera RAW. It did not work, or at least, there was no way to get a proper UI for this issue. Same sh-t. There were some icons in the lower right. I had to do tries and error as the text popping up was not readable, and the icons so small I couldn't see what the were telling me. Seems like we all have to get back to the old style of pixelized scrambled monitors. Or?
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Just set your monitor for lower resolution.
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I know that I can do that. But why did I pay for a high res monitor and excellent factory calibration of the colors, and work with a consumer software of lowest quality? Maybe the latter is the problem. We have to start working with other sw...
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Rene, this is a good one! If it all that theme wasn ́t so serios, I could laugh about it.
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Hi again... The workaround on the Br -> Camera RAW -> Ph issue is as follows: Download a release candidate for Camera RAW. Them in Br, select the files you want to work with and open in Ph (not Camera RAW). The files will first open Ph which automatically open Camera RAW with all files, and the correct scaling for the setting in Ph.
But again, it seems that Adobe should buy a UHD monitor to actually work out how it looks like and do some testing. Br is not a working App in the work flow. There are quite many glitches where this don't work in a proper way. As said before, the text sizes is supersmall and a magnifier is needed. And it is not in sync with other apps. Seems that this App is to be faced out? or am I wrong?
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Just a shame to Adobe not fixing this problems for so long.
Best graphic software, can't change menus, text and cursor size.
Shame.
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That isn't a solution, that is a hack with lots of problems.

Did you try the 200% UI scaling feature in Photoshop CC 2014?
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To be honest, the 200% UI scaling is to high. I think 150% would have suit best.
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That would be nice, but 200% UI scaling is what we and Microsoft could get working. We are continuing to work with Microsoft on the OS issues needed to get more general UI scaling to work.
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But do you think that there will be a solution for Windows 7 (Win 8) or do you think that implementation will only be possible for Windows 10?
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At this time, we don't know.