Photoshop: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

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I'm using a high resolution monitor(2560x1600). As a result, all the the toolbar fonts and menu fonts are small and hard to see. I do not want to lower the screen resolution as this would defeat the purpose of this monitor.. Will the new CS6 have the ability to increase font sizes to accommidate Hi-Res monitors?

Thanks

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After over a year, this topic of hi-dpi display problems is still not fixed on any of the new CC products. Why am I paying $50/month for a product that gives me a headache within 15 minutes of use? I'm losing my faith in Adobe's ability to deliver true value.

Adobe, your products are unuseable on even monitors as low as 1080p. Fix this issue soon. This dpi issue used to just to annoy me in the beginning as I thought Adobe would fix it soon, but after a whole year of this crap I'm nearly livid and considering a divorce from you.

Fix this now, it should be top priority. I'm not the only one saying this. There is an outcry for this issue to be fixed.
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Please read the existing replies that already explain this.
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Ditto that...!
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"Supporting HiDPI is a priority for our team."

Obviously not.

This has been an ongoing issue and I'm really amazed at Adobe's lack of leadership -- and competence on this issue!

What's up Adobe??? Photoshop professionals are one of your key constituents? Have you become Ma Bell and don't care a whit because you have what's basically a monopoly?

I WORK WITH PHOTOSHOP CC and this is STILL a problem, so ... ??????
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Please read the previous responses before posting. This has already been answered several times over.
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Hi everyone,

I've already responded that this feature will be available in the next Photoshop update in my official answer for this thread. There is an announcement next week on the 18th. Watch the event here:

https://creativecloud.adobeevents.com...

Thanks.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Adobe CC Windows 8.1 High Res Screen Scaling.


Do the CC products like Lightroom, Photoshop and Premiere Pro scale up properly so the menus are normal sized on a high resolution screen using windows 8.1 (for example a 3200x1800 QHD+ laptop screen)?
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Photoshop does not at this date. There has been a 3 year discussion of this issue with no fix yet from Adobe. My last comment was deleted so this one probably will be also.
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Please read the previous responses, and check out the new release features on Wed June 18.
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I have just updated Photoshop CC 2014. There are some new functions called: Experimental Functions (LOL).
Within these experimental functions there is one for 200% HDPI scaling. I think it ́s a good start into the right direction.
I hope that it is what it says: experimental function and that you guys from Adobe work for a perfect solution in future, maybe even near future.
The con about this funtion is that it only works for 200% and the font size of the menu also gets very big.
But so far so good. Keep on working and some day it will be all fine :-)
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Patrik, would you be able to post a screenshot of what the 200% looks like, and also what screen resolution you're using it on? I'm interested in seeing if it's worth updating. Thanks!
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Patrik, Thank you for the suggestion on the 200%. I made all the difference in the world. Now Photoshop CC 2014 is usable on my high res screen (3200x1800).
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Hi Jacob,

I am using a Eizo CG276 (27inch Display) with a solution of 2560 x 1440 DPI.

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Thanks. I also found a side by side comparison in this Cnet article, if anyone is interested. I think a fixed 200% is only a temporary solution as monitors get higher and higher res, but it is better than nothing.

http://www.cnet.com/pictures/adobe-ph...
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I do really hope that the planned final changes for HDPI menu in Photoshop will also work for Win 7 and not only for dumb (sorry) Win 8!
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And with cs 5
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Below are the steps to set the environment variable.
1. Right click on "my computer" icon
2. Click properties,
3. Select Advanced System Settings or Advanced Tab (Based on your OS)
4. Click on the "Environment Variables..." button.
5. Click New... button on System Variables section, You can also set this in User Variables section, if you would like to keep the change limited to current logged in user.
6. In the "New system variable" dialog, enter UI_SCALE_FACTOR in variable name field
7. Enter 1 in the Variable value field
8. Click OK

Relaunch AI.

Found here: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1500162 Can't take credit, but it works.
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You don't. Return it and buy a 1600x1200 monitor. Adobe will never fix this for CS6 and it will be cheaper than buying creative cloud.
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While this will not be changed for older versions of Photoshop, it has already been addressed in Photoshop CC 2014.
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It looks like my posts have been removed. I'm not surprised since they became somewhat redundant after a while.
However, Photoshop CC 2014 now works well on my Lenovo Yoga2 (running Windows 8.1) and I thought I'd take a moment to thank the Adobe design team for providing a solution. I'd also like to thank Chris Daugaard for the detailed instructions.
Thank you both.
..so that's what the menus look like :-)
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hi guy, i was really fed up with adobe. But hey i just updated adobe 2014. looks what happened

So happy right now because i can use adobe in 3200x1800 screen now!!
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Me too
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Hi,

Is that option coming to Bridge too ?

Thanks
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Allow larger interface size without changing screen resolution Photoshop CC 2014.


Just purchased a high-resolution monitor and the user interface selections are so small that the application is almost unusable. I was able to change the size of the fonts in the drop-down menus so I am surprised that Adobe Photoshop 2014 does not allow the font size of the actual workspace items to be customized as well. Until this is rectified, I will not be able to recommend the application to other photographers.
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Windows: Preferences->Experimental Features-> Scale UI 200%

MacOS has supported scaling for Retina displays for quite a while.
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Chris. Thanks for the solution for the UI. It looks like this is also scaling the workspace as well, so not sure if I am taking advantage of the increased resolution capability of my monitor. I play with it in both modes to see how it works.
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Chris, that approach is pretty much akin to using a sledgehammer to kill a fly. If you want to make that "feature" useful, allow the user to set a scale percentage within a given range.
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We are still working with Microsoft to make the scaling APIs more flexible. But we can't get everything working as quickly as we'd like, and wanted to get the most common scaling issue out and available instead of waiting for all the final fixes.
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I can appreciate that, Chris - I realize that your hands are tied in many aspects by the limits of the OS. But it still begs the question of why (under the same OS as before) the interface size was NOT an issue in pre-2014 CC. And as I'm guessing you are aware, these interface size issues are not limited just to Photoshop.... the interface element sizes in Illustrator and InDesign are near-comical. But thanks for the reply, and for the implicit admission that there actually **IS** an issue. I'm considering grabbing a nice high-rez monitor for the Mac, but from what I can see, releases for THAT host OS are also having UI size issues, so maybe I'll save my $$ for right now.
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The interface size was an issue once high res displays were released. And before CC 2014 (and a few OS fixes) we could not support UI scaling on those displays. MacOS UI scaling is automatic, and works just fine in Photoshop CS6 and later.
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OK, so that explains why I'm not seeing the issue on my retina MBP. Lol, once again the MacOS invisibly takes care of the issues before they happen. But on my Win7 box with 1920x1200 primary display, the text size in menus has gotten straight-up miniscule with CC2014, with no fix by modifying size setting within prefs. THAT is what is maddening, this wasn't the case in the past and it's the same OS/monitor. Screenshots avail if you want 'em. I've seen some discussion here and elsewhere that links Wacom drivers to this. Any illumination from you on that one? Thx...
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I dont think that this is a proper solution. See if I open the gradation curve menu. It blocks the hole monitor area.
How long do we have to wait till there will be a solution that will really work?? This work around stuff is more than experimental.

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I am using CS 6 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro 3200x1800 resolution. Only Adobe has microscopic menus and icons. Beyond unbelievable to me, as these programs are designed for professionals who will most likely be using high resolution monitors. How is it possible that they could be so indifferent to the basic needs of their core market? How to get through to somebody who can answer that?
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Dave,
Suspect escalation would be a waste of effort here. Typically management attitude at the top rolls down to the bottom. Regards WHG
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I'm not so sure. There are a heck of a lot of comments being redacted in this thread leaving the impression the problem isn't all that severe.
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Hi Eric, see the official answer. We've added a feature for 2X support in the 2014 release of Photoshop CC.
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While the problem may have been addressed in PS, the micro-sized interface in ID and AI requires tweaking the UI size via Windows Advanced Prefs, a sorry solution at best.
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Official Response
Support for scalable UI for high resolutions monitors has been implemented for Macintosh (Retina Display support in Photoshop CS v13.x) and Windows 7 and Windows 8 (Photoshop CC v2014).
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This only helps a small percentage of the people. I still can't see Bridge so please quit telling us how wonderful photoshop is now....NOT
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Good morning!

I already got that. Thank you soo much sir.

Have you seen how menus looks like in reality. Please read the postings here. Look at the pictures pls. that a concerned user like me posted.

Thank you so much sir!
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I have the chance of using a monstrous mega menu or the tiny tiny one. Wow, now I am really impressed.

I also add the two pictures to compare. If anyone didn ́t read this thread thoroughly enough.



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Yeah, Photoshop CC 2014 doesn't really support a scalable UI still... It's just super-tiny or mega-huge. Illustrator CC and InDesign CC do the scalable UI correctly by getting the scaling percentage from the Windows Display settings and scaling accordingly (as they should). Photoshop doesn't see the global settings for some reason. Obviously somebody at Adobe knows how to do it correctly.

Here's how the settings dialog looks in 200% mode on a Surface Pro 2:


Illustrator and InDesign do the UI scaling correctly and consistently:


Photoshop's 200% mode is too big for many screens:
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So now, that ́s it. 200% UI for the next 3 years. maybe with the new Photoshop 2017 version we will have a scaling like in Illustrator.
We have to be patient and wait.
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I'm in agreement with most folks here. I use Premiere and Photoshop daily and I struggle seeing it even with the 200% UI in effect. If I wasn't already comfortable with the menus I'd be lost in those programs. I'm using a Dell M3800 with a 3200 pixel wide screen. Love the machine, which was built for media software, but seeing clearly requires lowering the screen resolution of the machine.
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So do we have a scaled-up Photoshop now? I can't get it to match AI. I don't need GIANT text. I have to scroll back and forth in dropdowns - it's a pain. Photoshop of all apps is one where we need real estate.
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Just a hint you probably already know. See the second socket on your graphics card? Plug in another monitor. PS will use that for the menus and the edit screen will be nothing but the image.
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I am quite pleased with the general improvement in readability with the new "experimental" feature, except for camera raw (ACR) importer, which is still showing tiny interface features - am I missing a setting here? (windows 8.1)
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No, ACR has not yet picked up all the changes make in the Photoshop code.
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I was told a "different team" work on ACR and Bridge......crazy
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I love how so many of the comments here are being removed. There is clearly an interface appearance issue of some sort here, and it sure **looks** like it's being swept under the rug as an attempt to save face.
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Yours will be removed too. So will this one. They are ashamed of what they did to us, and don't want it pointed out.
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Posts are only removed when they violate the site's terms of use.
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They are removed because for 3 years we are asking the same thing over and over.
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Chris, I surely do not agree with your comment that posts are only removed when they violate the sites terms of use. For example - you removed a post of mine where I suggested that if you were struggling with Microsoft and their UI's that your CEO contact Microsoft's CEO and work out how this could be quickly resolved. When you get CEO's working together to satisfy customer angst things do happen. Not sure where this comment crossed the line. Another post of mine was removed when I posted publically available information regarding your CEO's email address and suggested that might be a way to contact and get traction. Would never have thought that would have crossed the line - more like censorship and keep the issue from the C-level staff?