Photoshop: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

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I'm using a high resolution monitor(2560x1600). As a result, all the the toolbar fonts and menu fonts are small and hard to see. I do not want to lower the screen resolution as this would defeat the purpose of this monitor.. Will the new CS6 have the ability to increase font sizes to accommidate Hi-Res monitors?

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I am an illustrator and graphic designer and have a brand new 27-inch Retina iMac. What a mistake! I have CS6 installed. The tools and menus, as well as control and anchor points, are too small for me to see. I am not vision-impaired.

I understand that Adobe apps may offer some UI adaptions for high-resolution monitors in Creative Cloud. Unfortunately, the Cloud option is NOT possible for the City or State University of New York. Our site licenses are for CS6.

I have a choice of using a magnifying glass to look at my monitor, or reducing the monitor resolution to the point where I might as well go back to my old monitor. Why get a high-resolution monitor if Adobe's tools are not adaptable?

I have heard here and elsewhere that Adobe had a patch for Windows users. But the design, publishing and marketing industries are 90% Mac-based, so why not offer a patch for the Mac OS?
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Yeah, if it's an enterprise install, you're kind of at the mercy of the sys admins to install the updates (you might want to remind them that the updates also include security fixes).
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Thanks again!
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Hi Lisa, that information is incorrect. There isn't a version 16.x. For Windows, HiDPI support was added in Photoshop CC 2014.2.2 (v15.2.2). Retina support was added in Photoshop CS6 v13.0.2 and later:https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/...
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I purchased CS6 for a HiDPI notebook and Adobe refunded my money as it was not fit for purpose. If I purchase an iMac with Retina 5K display, is there a version of Adobe Bridge, Camera RAW and Photoshop that will work correctly and without the need for binoculars on the computer?
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Photoshop CS6 and newer have support for high resolution displays on MacOS.
For high resolution displays on Windows, you need Photoshop CC 2014.
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Upgrade in CC Ph and Camera Raw does not work (updated 25 April 2015).
Sort of Panic!
After upgrade in Adobe CC the histogram is totally black in Camera Raw. Instead, when moving the mouse in the black histogram area, some other "last selected" slider (such as exposure) moves (left/right).
This happens when opening a raw file by selecting it and opening Photoshop, which then opens camera raw. However, if opening camera raw from start (not Photoshop), the histogram is there. But then I cannot use this program in a 4k monitor, so this upgraded added a bug to the other bug making it almost useless. So this nails down to a few simple questions: 1) why can't you folks (programmers at Adobe) fix the bug to make it possible to run the applications using a 4k monitor, starting a raw image with camera raw (and not going via Photoshop)
2) why can't you test the software before sending it out for us to upgrade. This is something I discovered when opening an image. 2 seconds! Not more. It does not work. simple as that!
My recommendation: Buy a 4k monitor if you don't have one.
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Photoshop CC 2014 already does work with high resolution displays on Windows. Just enable the preference to allow UI scaling.

This topic is about Photoshop, not Camera RAW (which is maintained by another team). But it does sound like you are seeing some of the video card driver bugs that the new Camera RAW update (9.0) has hit.
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Where do we find this preference? Since when was it added? Or do you mean the 200% Experimental Function?
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Yes, that is the UI scaling preference, added in Photoshop CC 2014.
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An additional comment to my last cry for help. I use Camera Raw as part of my workflow, but that seems not to be sort of end of life. (would be good to know if this is true, please confirm). Checked Lightroom, which I hardly use, and to my surprice, I can stretch this easily over two 4k monitors, and stretch the right part with sliders so they are on the right monitor and the image to develop in the left monitor. This is how it should be! And everything is readable by a naked eye. Awesome! So the big questions is: Why is Camera raw not working like this, and is this not supported anymore? And are we all forced to move to Lightroom?
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Hi again. As this is a serious issue and some people maybe don't get it, I uploaded some images. The middle one is camera raw where a file is opened with camera raw. The sliders are getting tiny tiny and impossible to use. In the other case (the top image), the image is opened via photoshop and by the fixes last year related to monitor resolution, this works(!). But after the last update, the histogram becomes black(!). However, this is not the case if camera raw is opened directly (but then nobody can use the software because sliders and text menus are too small). amazing!
The last one is lightroom. Dragged over two 4k monitors, this is nice! Sliders can be expanded and stretched over one (or a half) monitor and the photo over the other. This is how it should be. Two 32 inch 4k monitors. If you tried it you never go back.

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Hi folks,
A solution, indicated by a comment from Adobe, is related to a bug (or feature?) in the graphics driver. The last upgrade did something for some drivers and I simply unchecked to use the graphics card for camera raw. And this works. But still, do we all have to deal with this? And I also got a response that Br, Camera Raw Lightroom and so on relate to other user forums. How smart is that? If I buy a car and it is not working properly, do I have to go to ten different repairmen? And, to be frank, all these Apps are connected in a work-flow. And so should the developer teams think. They should (at Adobe) learn by mistakes and bring some solutions, like 200% UI experimental, to Br and Camera Raw. Better for us, and more efficient for Adobe. And, why do I have to tell then how to work smarter? (you are all right, I am a professor at a University)
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Just a note, Windows 10 is not an instant fix, I am using it on a Lenovo Y50 with 4k display. Photoshop is usable with the 2x patch, bridge is not. This is using the cloud, so latest versions so far as I know.
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Update to PhotoShop CC 2015:

Hi Folks,

it is done! Adobe has made a nice and decent looking UI. Adobe says this is because of the change to mondo basing scripts.
Anyways, now it looks fantastic, as far as I can say from a quick view and I am happy with the new, on HDPI usable, PS CC 2015.

Thank you that you did it, even if it took a bit of a time :-) Maybe the programming was a lot of work too.
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They tried to solve this issue by a 200% "feature" and then changed something to a scalable interface, which does not seem to work so well.
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@Gunnar, go to Preferences > Interface and set UI Scaling to 200% and restart Photoshop. Support for Bridge is coming in an update in the very near future.
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And this is the final solution now with the 200% scaling?
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It's the current solution. Variable UI (percentages other than 100% & 200% & greater than 200%) is something that is currently being worked on.
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Thank you. Its good to hear that it is not the final solution and that you are working on it.
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This hack worked for my on my macbook pro (with retina display) for photoshop. Now I just need to get the manifest data for dreamweaver and audition.

http://surfaceproartist.com/blog/2013...
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What about old software? I am running CS6, not that old really, get a new laptop and Photoshop and Illustrator are both crazy small. InDesign and Acrobat are perfect though!

Weirdly still, the menus that appear in Photoshop are fine, it is just the way it looks prior to choosing anything.
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Hi there,

I've just upgraded to Windows 10 and a new Dell UP2414Q 3840 x 2160 resolution monitor. All the icons/objects are extremely small & unreadable. Came to this site searching for a solution as I was informed by Microsoft that the issue is an Adobe problem.

Reading through all the questions & comments above, I see no solution. Some say updating to PS CC2015 works, but others disagree. Last question was a month ago with no reply from Adobe.

Can someone tell me if a solution to the problem has been enacted? Can I download an update to rectify the problem...without cost?
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As noted at the top of the topic: this was added in Photoshop CC 2014 with the 200% UI Scaling preference (which is also in CC 2015).

We are continuing to work with Microsoft on the Windows issues necessary to allow more flexible UI scaling.
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PS CC 2015 is *not* working for me, and I don't see the 200% UI Scaling preference option. It doesn't seem to be in the same location as in CC 2014? Can someone please advise?
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No, in CC 2015 it moved out of experimental features and into the interface section of preferences.
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I just got a new laptop (Dell Inspiron 15 // 7000 series), with Windows 10, and made sure to install the latest version of PS CC 2015. However, all the menus in PS (as well as Bridge/ACR) are microscopic. The "Edit/Preferences/Experimental features /scale UI 200%" workaround for CC 2014 does not seem to be available. Am I missing something? Can someone please advise?

Anyone else still having this issue with Windows 10 and PS CC 2015? I don't know what to do except go back to my 3.5-year-old laptop and increase the RAM so I can continue to run Adobe products normally. Or get an older monitor to attach to my new laptop? Help!
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Shawn's link worked for me as well - but only Photoshop. Yes, I can open ACR in Photoshop and edit pictures there, but I want Bridge to be able to give my pictures star ratings, sort them by lens, easily and quickly compare between two similar pictures, etc. Re Shawn's link, I didn't see a "manifest" file within the Bridge folder on my computer. Has anyone actually gotten Bridge to resize? I don't want to have to learn Lightroom just to do what Bridge does, especially when I have paid good money for presets that only work in ACR. I'd have to buy the Lightroom versions of the presets, which would lighten my wallet a big more. Thanks in advance!
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I have just tried bridge, I can make it larger using the script (changing the name) and placing it in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS6 (64 Bit)
Not sure if this is what you are after, my screenshot [IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36...
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Yes, that's perfect! I will try it this evening. This may save me hundreds of dollars refurbishing my old computer to continue to use Bridge. Many thanks!
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glad I could help :)
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It worked!!! Thank you, everyone, for posting links to this work around!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop UI appears too small in windows 10.

When Photoshop, Illustrator and Dreamweaver in installed on windows 10, on a laptop with screen resolution 3840x2160 the UI is very very small and does not respond to the change of screen resolution (currently set to 300%).

Indesign and Acrobat pro work fine!
There is inconsistency.

HArdware: toshiba radius 12 with 4K resolution 12'' touch display
OP sys: windows 10
Software: Adobe suite CS6
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Hi, I don't think that CS6 can cope with this problem. CS6 i very old and you have to have Adobe CC (2015). I have 4k monitors and CC works fine.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Small menu icon on photoshop on QHD screen.

Just downloaded CS6 on my new laptop and found out that the photoshop menus look really small. Called adobe call center and was referred to download a 3rd party file to solve the problem. FYI adjusting my screen resolution did not solve the problem.

http://www.danantonielli.com/adobe-ap...
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Small Menu & Tools in CS5 in Windows 10.

I currently own a licensed copy of Photoshop CS5. I also just purchased a new Dell Inspiron 7559 with Windows 10 Home. The new laptop is a hi definition style with killer graphics by NVIDIA GeoForce. When I start up CS5, the menus and the tools along with Bridge have icons so small, I cannot read them and in some cases cannot use them. In searching for a resolution, I read that Adobe has an experimental setting in preferences that will correct this problem. However, in checking my copy of CS5, I do not have that setting. How can I get that setting for my copy of CS5 so that I can see and use all of the elements in the program?

Thank you

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HighDPI display scaling was a feature added in Photoshop CC 2014.
That feature can not be ported back to older versions of Photoshop.
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I have also a hi definition monitor, and I have Photoshop CC 2015. How do we find that setting/feature in the latest version of CC?
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See the answers at the top of the topic.
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Oh.... I tried "Scale UI 200%" and it didn't work.
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Did you restart the application so the change could take effect?
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I fully understand that Adobe wants everyone to go to CC. However, I do not see the need to pay for a subscription for a program that I already have and should be able to use on a hi-res screen. If there is a fix for the cloud based product, then it should also be made available for the computer based programs as well. My initial outlay for CS5 was not cheap when I bought it five years ago. It works fine with the exception of the use on a hi-res screen. Come on Adobe, how about ponying up and fix this problem for those of us who have paid for the license of a program that we loaded on our computers.
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It isn't a "fix", but a major feature in a newer version of the software.
And Photoshop CS5 was released many years before high DPI displays became available on Windows.
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No software company, Apple, Adobe, Microsoft, or any other, goes back and retrofits old software. It just isn't going to happen; no company has the desire and resources (developers) to do so. To expect Adobe to do this to CS5 is not reasonable.
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Well isn't that a kick in the pants.
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I'm going to probably make everyone here feel stupid but I think I have the easiest fix yet.

Right click on the app icon
Click Properties
Click compatibility
Enable this so it has a checkmark disable display scaling on high DPI settings
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Unfortunately, that did not work in my case.

Thank you for your input.
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You need the latest version of PS for it to work.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Bridge Display problem... Files & file names too small.

Adobe Bridge Display problem... 64 bit Bridge... Dell XPS 15 ... 4k Touch display..... Menu Bar and Page title (text size) displays correctly but the files folders and file names below show up very very small (unreadable).....even after adusting the slider in the lower right hand part of the screen all the way up....... the folder get a little bigger but the text is super small and does not enlarge... All other Adobe Programs run correctly...
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Separate topic for Bridge

Please reference the new conversation here: Bridge UI size
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Still not working correctly after all this time. Photoshop CS4 on my high resolution screen is unusable. Huge fail. I bought CS4 Master Collection for over $1000 and this is what I get? So disappointed in Adobe
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Will there be any improvements to UI scaling in Photoshop Windows on CC 2015? I recently switched from Mac to PC and the HiDPI scaling in Photoshop on Windows is REALLY bad and not the same way it does on Mac!

the 100% and 200% options makes it impossible for me to switch between using my 1920X1080 cintiq and my 4K display - which is an important part of my workflow. I usually work on technical art on my main monitor and switch to the Wacom Cintiq when doing more creative art. But with the Windows version of Photoshop this is not possible. I tried setting the UI scaling to Auto, but that doesn't do anything at all, so I don't understand why that option is even there (?).  I even tried using the mirror display when working on my Cintiq, so that both monitors become 1920X1080, but photoshop doesn't adapt to that, which would to me seem like the sensible way for the "auto" option to work. If its impossible to make Auto/adaptive on windows, at least give us the option to scale to 150% and 125%.

On OSX with a 5K iMac this works flawlessly. When I move Photoshop from my 5K display to the Wacom Cintiq all the UI adapts instantly. And if I switch to mirror display Photoshop adapts to the lower resolution of the Wacom screen. But on windows you have only the option to choose one of the options (scaled or not). So that means either tiny icons on my 4K display or huge UI that goes outside of my screen on the Wacom tablet. Currently I'm stuck on ONLY working in Photoshop on my Wacom Cintiq, and my 4K display is useless to Photoshop. 

I don't understand why this problem hasn't been addressed at Adobe??? If you check the Discussion forums, a huge amount of people are raging over this for more than a year and people have even started hacking Photoshop through the registry/regedit to have windows scale the Photoshop menu instead of using the HiDPI features. 4K on Windows are here to stay, so Adobe shouldn't just leave such an important feature halfway done.


Please help!! 
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I really hope you will make it soon, because AI developers already did it as I said
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Thats not true that AI developers did it. Photoshop is built up different to AI. AI is vector based, so resizing is easier than with pixel based photoshop. And yes, not only the pictures in AI are vector based, also the UI is it.
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I find that hard to believe. So the UI in Illustrator, In Design, After Effects and Premiere is all vector based but Photoshop is bitmaps ? Because all these other programs I mentioned have no problems when switching between HiDPI and regular display, they adapt, and they behave properly when swapping screens. Only Photoshop from my experience so far has only 2 set options and no realtime adaptiveness (need to restart the program)
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As far as I know, Photoshop is one of the oldest software (from all Adobe programs) and so I think the programming of the sprites is also a bit of oldfashy bitmap kind.
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Btw. I also think it ́s ashaming for Adobe that they don ́t correct that error over years. Because a 200% feature is not really a solution.
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This ‘small font size’ has been an ongoing issue now for several years – in Bridge and Photoshop. THEY STILL HAVE NOT FIXED IT.  ADOBE - Rich and careless.

How much squinting do I have to do? (Adobe llustrator font is perfect)

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How about this:  It still isn't fixed on Photoshop Elements 15!  Are you kidding me??