Lightroom Classic: Presets not sticking and changing

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Lightroom Classic CC V9.. on iMac using OS Mojave.

Some of my downloaded / purchased presets on the left hand panel (in DEVELOP module) are a bit funny. When I hover over them to preview them, they change the image, as you would expect.... but when I click to select the preset the image changes again and now it doesn't look like it did when I was hovering before selecting.. It seems to be with presets that have either radial filters or graduated filters in them. The radial filters shift position and the graduated filters darken. Also there grad dated filters are in a vertical aspect rather than horizontal.

The "native" Lightroom presets are OK.

So to test this I created a colour only adjusted preset and it worked fine. I then downloaded another preset and that worked fine as it had no radial or grad filter in it. 

I then added a grad to this one and saved it but when I apply this altered downloaded preset it did not show the radial filter that I added to it before saving it. 

So I think that we can say that it's a problem with any preset that has either a radial or graduated filter in it that are not PREVIEWING correctly. 



I then created a preset with a radial filter in the top left and bottom right hand corners. 

When I hover over this it shows the radial filters in the opposite corners but when I select it the image changed to the way that it was created . 

So it's the preview which I get when hovering over the presets with radial or graduated filters in them that are definitely showing incorrectly on the image.

To test this theory I created a colour only adjusted preset and it worked fine. I then downloaded another preset and that worked fine as it had no radial or grad filter in it.

I then added a grad to this one and saved it but when I apply this altered preset it did not show the radial filter that I added to it before saving it.   So I think that we can say that it's a problem with any preset that has either a radial or graduated filter in it that are not previewing correctly. 

I created a preset with a radial filter in the top left and bottom right hand corners. When I hover over this it shows the rads in the opposite corners but when you select it the image changes to the way that it was created 

So it's the preview which you get when hovering over the presets with rad or grad filters in them that are definitely showing incorrectly on the image.




MY SYSTEM INFO:




Lightroom Classic version: 9.0 [ 201910151439-b660523e ]


License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en-AU

Operating system: Mac OS 10

Version: 10.14.6 [18G1012]

Application architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 8

Processor speed: 4.2 GHz

Built-in memory: 24,576.0 MB

Real memory available to Lightroom: 24,576.0 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 1,418.1 MB (5.7%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 3,523.1 MB

Memory cache size: 2.9MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 12.0 [ 321 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2

Camera Raw virtual memory: 585MB / 12287MB (4%)

Camera Raw real memory: 596MB / 24576MB (2%)

Displays: 1) 4096x2304



Graphics Processor Info: 

Metal: AMD Radeon Pro 580





Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic

Library Path: /bernard/BERNARD-2-2-2.lrcat

Settings Folder: /Users/christinebernard/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom



Installed Plugins: 

1) AdobeStock

2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in

3) ColorChecker Passport

4) Facebook

5) Flickr

6) HDR Efex Pro 2

7) Nikon Tether Plugin



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Hi Rikk

Yes it looks the same as this thread but my problem appears to be caused by radial filters and graduated filters that are built into the presets that I am using.  I am trying to edit raw files only.   

I followed the instructions in the link and made a preset which had just the tint and temperature changed and applied it to a raw and it it worked fine.  I then added a radial filter and saved it again  When this version was applied to a raw image the radial filter did the same as with my previous presets ( i.e.  it was in the wrong position when previewing by hovering but it went to the correct position when the preset was fully selected.) 

This confirms that the preview is not working correctly with radial filters and you have to select it fully to the image before you can see how the image will look. This cancels out the usefulness of the preset review function.  

I have made screen shots of the full set of preference tabs just in case it's something in them that is screwing things up.

Thank you for taking the time to look at this.  What happens next I wonder , as this is the first time that I have had a problem with LR ?


STOP PRESS !!!
I may be on to some thing here....hopefully !!

There are 3 catalogs on our LR.  1 is mine and two are my wifes.

I toggled the GPU off and on and now the preview issue is only showing on 1 of my wifes catalogs.  I wonder if it is a combination of preferences and catalog settings.

I will go through the catalog settings on the catalog that is still showing the issue and compare them to the settings on those catalogs that are ok and let you know if I find anything that has been set up differently.



STOP STOP PRESS !!!

I have checked all 3 catalogs and the settings are the same in all of  them ..  the only thing that I can see different in the catalog in which the presets are a problem is under the File Handling tab in Catalog Settings. Where it shows Import Sequence Numbers the Import number is showing 3  and the Photos Imported shows 724.  

The other two catalogs that are working ok both show Import Number as 1 and Photos Imported as 0.  This is the screen shot of the catalog setting ( file handling ) tab in the catalog that the presets are not working in..


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Based on this I would recommend your trying to reset the preferences file:

Reset Procedure:
1. Close Lightroom.
2. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] while restarting Lightroom.
3. Overwrite the Preferences when prompted by the dialog.
4. Close Lightroom.
5. Restart Lightroom.

Does the preset issue continue after resetting the preferences?
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Yes they are moving a little in all 3 catalogs ..  It was OK up until V 8.4 then it went weird.  Does this indicate that it was a change from 8.4 to 9.0 in this area that has screwed it up?
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No major changes have been done in that area.  If you've reset the preferences on all machines and updated your video driver software to the manufacturer's latest then you would need to post some screenshot examples of what you are seeing. 
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The 3 catalogs are on the same LR installation on the same iMac, not on different machines and as far as I am aware you can't search and update video driver on iMac.

You check for general updates under the "about this Mac" tab . If there are any updates then they will be updated. Not like on Windows where you can search for updates. 

Disappointing really.  I get the feeling that it's just a matter of keep trying this and that and maybe we'll stumble across a solution...  eventually.
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