Lightroom/Camera Raw: Popular (and Adobe-supported) Nikkor lens not recognized for JPEG files (work for raw)

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This is rather odd, but I have a standard Nikkor kit lens that came with my old Nikon:

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

When I try to apply lens corrections to a JPEG photo shot with this lens, Lightroom CC says that it doesn't have a profile for this lens. However, it's on the list of lenses that are supported by Adobe, and the exact same lens name appears in the info bar. So why isn't it working?

I have another Nikkor zooms lens that does get recognized, just not this one...

EDIT: It appears that RAW files shot with this lens can be corrected, but not JPEG... does this make any sense? I have many thousands of affected photos, so it'd be great to sort this out.
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It does make sense. Most of the lens profiles are only for raw images.
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Most mid range DSLR cameras have lens correction built in to the body however, they do not apply to RAW images (nef in this case) only to JPEGs shot in camera. Adobe Camera RAW only really applies lens profile correction to RAW files because the JPEG would likely have had this corrected in camera. Well, that is the theory anyway.

With regards to the LightRoom side of things, this really based upon Camera RAW and the same likely applies.

Hope this helps. 
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Fair enough. But why can I apply the lens profile for the Nikkor 18-200 mm lens to any JPEG (as well as RAW NEF file), even if I select it manually, but I cannot do the same with the Nikkor 18-70 mm lens, which I can only select for RAW files. and not JPEG? Why would one lens from the same manufacturer be different from another with respect to this feature? I fear we might be overlooking a UI issue here.
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If there's a UI issue, it might be that the 18-200mm lens is accidentally available for the JPEG, so you might not want to shout too loudly! ;-)  A few of the earliest lens profiles were initially made available for raw + rendered photos, and it appears that the 18-200 was a very early profile. After a while, they realized that didn't really work very well, as people were applying them to photos that had already been corrected in camera or derivative files (like those sent to Photoshop) so most profiles since then have been raw only.
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You can easily edit a lens profile to make it available for JPEGs as well as raws: 
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/acr-lightroom-when-will-my-lens-profile-be-av...
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Perfect, thanks, John! That works well. I've got a D200 which doesn't automatically apply lens corrections to JPEGs. Now that I know more about this, I found published lists of cameras that do and don't. Adobe could enable corrections for those that don't without having us tinker with the files.
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Or LR could just allow any lens profile to be applied to JPEGs, while issuing a warning explaining why that won't always produce good results (a warning that could be disabled with a "Do Not Show" checkbox).