Photoshop: Please update Open/Save dialogs in Adobe products to Vista dialogs

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In all Adobe programs, the Open/Save dialog boxes use the Windows 95 convention, instead of Windows Vista/7/8. Drilling down to save files where you want is a PITA. With CS6, please bring Adobe into this decade with the Open/Save menus. All other programs on my PC have long ago updated to this.
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Different apps are using different versions of the dialogs, but as long as we have to support Windows XP, we'll probably have to use the older dialogs (because the new ones weren't added until Vista).

And exaggerating that "all other apps use this" doesn't help your case.
We do use other software, and we see who has and hasn't updated.
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Timothy Tyrrell

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This is a lame excuse for lazy programming imo.

Just like anything else we have if/else statements:
if( OS >= Windows Vista) {
Use New Save Dialog;
} else {
Use dialog that no one likes, is time consuming, and severely deprecated;
}

Yes I am over simplifying, but you mean to tell me that the thousands of dollars we all pay you on a regular basis isn't enough in 8 years to create a solution that we will stop complaining about? But at the same time you create a 3D engine inside Photoshop? And your work on the "de-blur" stuff? You can do that, but a simple rework of the save dialog is just too hard...Nigh impossible in 3 versions!
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Is this how Adobe wants to be seen to explain things to customers?
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Timothy Tyrrell

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Apparently, considering this is the only reply we've gotten so far from an official "employee". :)
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Charles Thompson

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I wrote "all other programs ON MY PC" use the Windows 7/8/Vista open/save dialog." Not "all other apps use this" as you falsely assert that I wrote. And those apps include Office 2010, Camtasia Studio, and more, which open just fine in Windows XP as well.

So misquoting what's in print, and exaggerating that you'll probably have to use older versions of the dialog to support XP, don't help your case.
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Interesting, I made a post about this 4 days ago and was referred to this part of the site.

After Effect even uses the new dialog, Illustrator and Photoshop doesn't. I almost feel like it's a scheme to hook people on Bridge. It is indeed a real PITA and I have a hard time believing that the good folks over at Adobe aren't able to find some solution that caters to XP and Windows 7 alike.
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Kill Bridge and replace it with the file viewing and management tools in Lightroom. That would free up lots of resources to fix things such as the save/open dialogs.
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Bastian Weber

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I was just testing the CS6 beta under Windows when I realized that it's still good those very old fashioned and impractical open- and save-dialogs. Why not just use the default Windows-7 ones? They are far more useful, becaus it's e.g. possible to access your favorites, hard disks, libraries and network via the left-side panel.

The ones Photoshop has got always make it a real pain to locate a file, because I have no access to my favorites.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Why not using contemporary open- and save-dialogs?.
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Thanks for reporting in, I honestly expected this to be resolved in CS6.

I also don't appreciate Adobe's response which, besides being kind of snarky, ignores the fact that tonnes of programs run on XP and Win 7 and is able to use the most recent interface. It doesn't make any sense.
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With Windows Vista and 7, Microsoft introduced a new kind of dialog for file selection. It integrates better with the system, allows easier (and faster access) to favorite locations, shortcuts, current path and search:


The file selection dialog as it appears in Google Chrome on Windows 7 (please excuse the screenshot being in Italian)


Photoshop currently makes use of the old version of this dialog, available on Windows XP and in previous versions. Photoshop adds a few of its own custom controls to this dialog, and Windows tries to help by adapting a few of the links on the left, but this dialog remains clumsy, slow and frustrating to use:


The file selection dialog as it appears in Photoshop CS6 Beta on Windows 7


Photoshop CS6 looks like it's going to be a great product, with a fresh interface and awesome new features. It would be awesome if this small aspect of the interface could be given a pass of polish as well.

Thanks and keep up the great work, Photoshop team!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Please use a more modern file selection dialog on Windows for Photoshop.
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The open dialog is useless now in cs6 since you can't see previews of the documents.

You should just use mini bridge and forget about the open dialog.
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This is horrible advice. Mini Bridge sucks and you cant even save through it.

Adobe needs to fix this, it's been bugging a lot of people since CS4 and it's more pressing than some new feature that no ever uses anyway.

And if they can't fix it, the least they could do it address it properly and explain why something that Firefox and a bunch of other programs are able to do is impossible for Photostop.
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You actually can see previews if you have the right codecs installed on your system.
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Tim Torres

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Revamp the save dialog. It's extremely time consuming to navigate through all my folders to place the pic where it should go. Use the default Windows dialog or make something up that has favorites.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Revamp the Save dialog.
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I'm getting tired of the deprecated SAVE FILE dialog that's STILL using the old XP system. We pay you thousands of $$ and you keep the old Windows XP save system? No excuses Adobe. I want the Windows 7 save prompt (with my drives, recent files, constantly changing favorites, etc). Don't give me the "we still need to support XP" junk. That's an excuse to not put an OS check (if > Windows XP use new save prompt - else use same old same old).


Yes you have a base of XP users (I feel sorry for them), that doesn't mean I STILL should have to use the old save prompt. The one thing I've been wanting to see changed since CS3 still stares me boldly in the face as a giant "Screw You, you're still going to drink our koolaid" from Adobe. You add all of this fancy stuff (much of which I don't use), but the only thing I've personally asked for is an updated save prompt (that's been around since Vista). I don't care if you create your own, anything but the ancient XP non-customizable system.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Ancient Windows "Save File" dialog... Time to change Adobe,.
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Is it possible to create shortcuts in the open/save dialog (explorer)? I really miss this feature that you have in the regular windows explorer. In other programs I use you get the same short cuts that you allready defined in windows explorer. The only similar option in psp is "earlier places", and that just does not cut it. I ́m working in a big project with a huge folder structure and it ́s a time demanding pain to manually go to different drives and folders all the time. If there is a function for this that i have not found, I will be eternally greatful to be enlightened. If there is no function for this, I think it would be a good idea to implement it.

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Short cuts in the open/save dialog (explorer).
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Here is the best solution for what we're stuck with:
http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/28/...

There are only minor differences between this tutorial and how Windows 7 does it. But you can get specific locations.

I can also suggest having a "Favorites" folder that you add to this. The favorites folder could be a folder in your Documents with a bunch of shortcuts to other folders that you use. This would allow you to have your top 4 locations, plus a 5th location that allows you to add you own shortcuts to other folders.
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I wouldn't call this a solution, it's more of a workaround that does not really address the main issues posed by the lack of this feature.
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Timothy Tyrrell

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Depends on your definition of a solution. It doesn't address the primary problem, but is it a solution for Mårten's proposed problem.

So while it's a workaround for the underlying issue, Mårten just wanted to know if those locations could be changed. Thus I listed a (crummy, but what we're limited to) solution.

The fact still remains, Adobe's developers are being lazy here. You can program an application to display one save screen vs. the other depending on what OS it's installed on.

Adobe knows people will still buy their software in spite of this not being changed, so they are being slackers and doing nothing about this.

While I would understand this mentality if these were free programs (i.e. Facebook, where YOU are the product, you're not paying for it, so they don't need to conform to the requests of users), but since we're paying $400-$2700 for these I would expect more from Adobe.

This topic is starting to fill up. Please ask everyone you know to add their +1 to this topic. Let's let Adobe know we're tired of being ignored.
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Thanks Timothy for posting this "best one we got" solution/workaround. I ́m glad I ́m not alone here. Adobe should really take this serious and do something about it. I bet there are more annoyed windows Vista/7 users right now than there would be XP users if they fixed this. And if they do it right they don ́t have to piss off the XP users either.
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we really need it.. it would be nice as an creative cloud update! (hint hint) Or let me save through bridge... would also work great.. !

Pretty please, we needz it!
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Why can't Adobe respond to this?
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Chris has responded to this and the topic is marked as 'under consideration.'
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add the standard windows functionality into the save/save as dialog, including the favorites, and make photoshop remember the last folder saved to, and last file format saved to.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
improve photoshop CS6 save/save as dialog.
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Damn I cant believe Adobe haven't fixed this yet....
I thought it was self evident the file dialog was being left in the stone ages. Fact is all my other professional tools have better file dialogs (many of which use the Windows 7 style...the others are mostly QT based custom solutions)
Luckily I do 3D stuff mostly...But still the inconvenience is still high when using Adobe software
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Photoshop CC now has the new open dialogs, as shown in this message : http://forums.adobe.com/message/53406...
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled PHOTOSHOP: use the Vista style open/save dialogs in the Batch command.

Dear Adobe, I have one, single request for Photoshop CC2015. It is this (apologies for the yelling)... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE UPDATE BATCH IMPORT / EXPORT DIALOG BOXES IN PHOTOSHOP FOR WINDOWS!!!!! Refer to IMGUR image here (or view attached): http://imgur.com/2cw888v. I do a pazillion batch processes over the course of a day, and the current import dialog boxes KILL my productivity, dead. I've requested this before and I'm 'a doin' it again. Please, I beg of you, change the dialog boxes, for the children if for no-one else.

I mention this now because I had planned a change in my workflow that would speed my day up thus freeing me to spend more time on charitable endeavors and world peace, but I cannot implement only because of the import dialog box.
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I won't hold my breath ... see, Adobe might tell you that this is a "folder selection" dialog box, and check out Microsoft's own .Net Framework's "folder selection" dialog box -- it is exactly the same.
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In that case, so much for world peace! :/ Still hoping that having put men on the moon, what, 45 years ago, that the batch dialog boxes can somehow be updated.
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Not main UI open/save dialogs. They're updated. I'm talking Batch Processing open/save dialogs. Seriously. It must be do-able.

I received this reply: "Different apps are using different versions of the dialogs, but as long as we have to support Windows XP, we'll probably have to use the older dialogs (because the new ones weren't added until Vista). "

But PS CC 2014 Image 'Open' dialog is the new kind... the one on the right. It is only in Batch Processing that the old, old, old, old style dialog is used. Can this not be switched, as it's used elsewhere in PS?

I visit that little dialog box, oh, maybe 10 times a day. If dialog nav takes me ~7 seconds per instance (usually longer!) x 10 times a day x 5 days/wk x 50 weeks/yr = 4.86 HOURS a year spent doing nothing but opening twirly's in that dialog box. Make it stop!!!

-A
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I was leaving it a separate request so we could investigate. Apparently someone else decided to merge it.
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Nice, hope it works out for 2015!
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I agree, it's a little odd that they moved your request into this forum where it'll be forgotten because they've marked this request as "implemented".

I had noticed the Batch process being an old file explorer too.

Either way, welcome to this thread that finally got the save dialog updated (after years of waiting)
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We're looking into the remaining folder selection dialogs (mainly from scripts/automate commands).
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Please, please, please do. I beg you. This single thing absolutely kills my productivity.