Bridge: Restore Export Panel In Bridge

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Why was the Export Panel dropped from Bridge CC? The Export to Disk is an incredible time saving routine, especially for those of us who find the Light Room catalog structure underwhelming, and instead use Photoshop and Bridge.

The Bridge CC Tools > Photoshop > Image Processor is a work around, but is now where near as clean, flexible, and fast.

Why was it dropped from Bridge CC?

Here is a screen shot from Bridge CS6:
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Sorry there is still a bug the resize is not working

if(sizepnl.cb1.value == true && size < bm[j].width && size < bm[j].height){ //resize enabled
It never meets this so the resize is not done.

Should be:-
if(sizepnl.cb1.value == true && size < Math.max(bm[j].width,bm[j].height)){ //resize enabled

Also I am surprised it hasn't fallen over with the Resampling method, you only supply
bicubicSharper etc
where it should be in the form of BitmapData.bicubicSharper
I don't know why but it still worked (Strange)
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Resampling takes a string as the argument, one of three enumerated choices. I'm getting different file sizes when I choose different sampling methods so its working.

And resize is partially working although your method is correct, the resize has to be less than the larger dimension. Just tested, if I set it to 2000px on a 4272x2848px file, I get a 2000x1333px JPEG. But 3000px doesn't work. Darnit, one more build coming. LOL
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Looks good to me David.
Lets hope you get many more feedbacks from others!
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Great! I'm gonna keep it available for testing and see about putting it on Adobe Exchange and maybe Github.
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I have forked the script and swapped out transformations (rotate and flip) for multiple resize options. I suspect this will be more useful for most people and it was a pretty easy change. I have it working and just need to do a bit more testing but I'll be packaging the two together for download.
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I got a chance to test and it works a treat—apart from having a problem with stacked images. When it encountered those, it got some, then hung, and I finally force quit. Since the folders I was using this on make it easy for me to rename so order is maintained, no problem working around stacks. But I thought you ought to know it did have a problem that you might want to look into. It's probably not something most people would come across. I was expecting it to get the info from the Finder, which doesn't know from stacks, but maybe you use Bridge's sort order and the stacks are a problem then.
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Stacks should just export the top image, and the rest of the stack is ignored. I'll do some additional testing though.
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Yes it is working for me and exporting the top image.
According to the documentation this should select the stacks images
var sels = app.document.groupedSelections;
$.writeln(app.document.selectionsLength + " files selected");

But it does not work in any Bridge version I have.

I have a work-a-round, but there is time constraint...

var sels = app.document.selections;
$.writeln(app.document.selectionsLength + " files selected");
var stacks = getselectedStacks();
var stackCount = stacks.length;
//if stack is closed thumbnails will not select so open them
app.document.chooseMenuItem("ToggleStackStateOpen");
for(var s in stacks) {selectStackFiles(stacks[s]);}
app.document.chooseMenuItem("ToggleStackStateClose");
sels = app.document.selections;
$.writeln(app.document.selectionsLength + " files selected");
$.writeln("sels = " + sels.length);
//// FUNCTIONS ////
function getselectedStacks(){
var stackSels = app.document.selections;
var stacksSelected = new Array();
var stks = app.document.stacks;
for(var a =0;a<stackSels.length;a++){
for(var z =0;z< stks.length;z++){
    /*if they are the same we have found the stack*/
if (stks[z].thumbnails[0].spec.toString() == stackSels[a].spec.toString()){
    stacksSelected.push(app.document.stacks[z]);
    break;
        }
    }
}
return stacksSelected;
};
function selectStackFiles(stack){
     for( var g = 0; g<stack.thumbnails.length;g++){
          app.document.select(stack.thumbnails[g]);
      }
}
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I actually looked at stacked images early on, if the stack is expanded and all selected then they are all processed. It appears that Bridge has problems handling all the images if only the first is selected. I'd have to individually test for a stack and expand it to select all the images as Paul is doing above.

FWIW, the built-in scripts do the same thing. Running a Batch or Image Processor only selects the top image on the stack. I think I'm going to leave it as this is consistent.
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> I actually looked at stacked images early on, if the stack is expanded and all selected then they are all processed. >

Ahhh. I had them all selected, but not expanded. That could explain getting more than the top images, but less than the whole lot of them. Thanks.
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Yes if you look in the lower left corner of the Bridge browser window, it tells you how many files are selected. Clicking just the top of the stack says one, if you expand it then all are selected. I think this works as designed.
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Not exactly. If you click on one and do Select All, it does select all without expanding the stacks. But stacks also have more than a few quirks. I have found that sometimes Bridge misses out with some features even if all are selected. For example, lately a Select all has a problem removing all the labels inside multiple stacks. It removes some and leaves some—sometimes, not always. In that case, it performs better when stacks are expanded, and this seems to be the same—it will perform better when stacks are expanded, even though they were all selected. BTW, you can also Option-click on any stack to select all the files inside it—many ways to get them all selected, but at a guess Bridge reads them differently when stacked versus expanded.
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Yeah it seems to work ok with export based on what is selected (thumbnails.) Anything that is a Bridge bug will need to be fixed by Adobe.
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I have been testing a forked version of my palette which I call JPEG MultiExport. It will export a full sized and/or up to three resized JPEGs from each original. I tested it this afternoon and successfully exported 448 CR2 files to three sizes (at the same time I was shooting tethered with Canon Utility.)

There appears to be a Bridge bug where after a long export, window.close() no longer works. I was able to do further exports just fine after the long one finished, but the palette wouldn't close either programmatically or using the close widget. :sigh:

I'm going to post both versions along with an updated Read Me and XML samples later tonight. The two palettes use different menu commands, different XML files, and both can be installed at the same time.
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Ok, new release, this has TWO scripts- the original, and the forked JPEG MultiExport version.
http://lumigraphics.zenfolio.com/img/g112637512-o367026446.dat?dl=2&tk=Tbpj4Ldoh36Wf2ShKyGfwplrKimXAzmuvn-si-zKu30=
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Hi David... Firstly thank you for your hard work. Ive been following the thread but work has been nuts and this is the first time I've been able to try it. I've downloaded from the link above but the read me doesn't mention what you do with the files. Forgive me if I have missed the instructions in the thread.
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Bridge scripts go into the Bridge Scripts folder. Open Bridge, select Preferences->Startup Scripts, and click the button to reveal the correct folder. Copy there, quit and relaunch Bridge and any new scripts will be loaded.
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The XML Preference files are samples. They will be created the first time you use one of the scripts. No need to put them anywhere.
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Hi David, That's great. Can I ask for a feature that was what I loved in the old Export Panel? Can you include Named Presets that also remember a preset  Subfolder. For instance, on CS6, I have one for Fullsize JPEG but I also one for Smaller Social Media Friendly versions etc for customers. Each are put in their own folder with a consistent name. So far it doesn't look like a named subfolder is stored in the Save Function.

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If you pick a specific export folder, that is saved in preferences. Try resetting the export folder, then loading your preset.

If you don't specify a folder, the last one used is loaded when you open the palette.
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I've been testing a progress bar; it works on Windows but doesn't display on the Mac. If I can get it to work I will make a build and upload that. I'm also working on a Settings Browser to look through saved XML settings files.
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does ADOBE read anything we write?
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I think they read. But don't care.
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they sure care if they get the monthly payment :(
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The problem so far I can see is: they GET the payment. And that's why they don't care.
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Since Bridge is available without any subscription, they aren't getting any payment for it. If they proposed tacking $1 to our plans, and that meant they were getting paid enough to have a bigger team and go faster in its development, how many people would be outraged because they're paying more for an app they never used, or just because they used to get it without paying anything?<G>

From prodesigntool.com:

"Either way, Bridge CC requires nothing – no purchase, no sign in or log in, no membership or subscrip­tion, no activation, and not even any other Adobe tools on the same system."
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It is the interaction of PS and Bridge that I have been wrestling with for over a year now. I even did a screen share with them and they could not help me. I work on a 1 year old Mac - there should be no issue.
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I think Adobe reads AND they care. But they can't do it all for every app that needs something, and the Bridge team, with very limited resources, is picking and choosing first  from what management tells them to choose, and then from what we say we want. But what I want most isn't what someone else wants most, so the choice isn't easy. And of course, for quite a few years they didn't do anything with Bridge, apparently because they didn't know if they wanted to keep it or get rid of it, as they have ended the life of other programs some of us liked. I think they may have been convinced to go ahead by the fact that Bridge has some features neither our OS nor 3rd party apps have, and many are even tightly integrated with our applications—very tightly integrated.

It feels to me that management even now is somewhat reluctant to really invest in Bridge as an application equal in status to any of the main applications—certainly it doesn't appear to be fast-tracking it into this century, but at least it did listen to us when we begged them to go back to developing the program, and they are trying to make up for a heck of a lot of lost time—too slowly for us to be really happy, but happier than when they did nothing at all and we believed the program was threatened with extinction.

It's hard to say "have patience" when I'm feeling little enough of it myself, but most of us want it to survive, so I guess patience is about our only choice. We're going to keep complaining, but I hope more people will be very specific about why no alternatives to a feature work, or perhaps don't even exist, and that might get them to pay a little more attention to exactly what we want, and how many of us want it.

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I have written and written and written for almost 20 years on their forums and have NEVER seen an ADOBE rep respond. Maybe it's just me, but I think the support lacks a lot. Even when I call and do a computer share  they can't figure it out and I research until I find the answer from some other kind person who has done a post on the fix needed.

I am happy for you that you have had a better experience. Maybe someday I will get to experience that :)
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Same experience here ... I saw one rep answer to  another help stream with a completely unrelated answer. Unfortunately it made them not look careless, but simply stupid. Same Experience with Lightroom when an update would not install on my machine. No rep or forum had the answer, but I found some kid from Russia which new a certain file in the systems directory needed to be removed (so it could be rewritten) and everything worked from there.

Okay, enough rant, back to work (dinner actually)
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I would gladly choose to see some of my monthly rental fee go towards refining and developing Bridge further.

Maybe the trick is to get Adobe to see some AI application for it then they might perk up! Otherwise I think they feel it's just this thing that tags along in the Suite but has no marketing cachet. Which is too bad since I think for people who understand how it can really be used, it's a vital part of their workflows.

Even after the recent renewal of interest on their part, there are still things that are out of date (no sort by Recently Added?) or need work (always returning to the top of a folder) etc. etc. etc.

If nothing else ever gets done, I just hope it doesn't get killed.
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> If nothing else ever gets done, I just hope it doesn't get killed.>

It sounds like you have the luxury of moving on. I'd have already done that if I'd found a Mac browser that does stacks, and previews at least the paucity of Adobe files that Bridge currently previews. Not much, but most browsers, it's much less.

I have to be as optimistic as I can manage, even though I really believe this needs to be rewritten from the ground up with a better interface (especially multiple Content panels in one window, not multiple windows as we have now). But I've found nothing at all that recognizes the need to stack images in folders, instead of rely upon an even creakier, ancient, and more cumbersome folder/subfolder system. If Bridge isn't nearly as productive as it might be, other browsers are even less so, dependent as they are on my dividing everything up into subfolder after subfolder, then drilling down to get to the right one.

I'm keenly aware of all that's gone unanswered that shouldn't be that difficult to implement. But I don't get a vote on whatever group of folk sit at the top of Adobe and determine the company's priorities. So I just keep asking and keep asking, and a little comes through. We do see transparency now—though not in PSD files, which is weird. Maybe they'll decide previewing our PS brush files shouldn't be all that difficult. Maybe they'll make it possible to Filter within stacks. Without Find, neither Filter nor Quick Search even know those files are there. Lots and lots of things could be done to make Bridge the shining bridge over a lot of troubled waters.

Who knows what might be next? Not enough. But I'm here for the duration, and as I said before, just saying they don't care I think doesn't help at all. If I were any Bridge engineer, the first thing I'd learn to do is tune out all those "they don't care" complaints. Better the "this feature is missing, broken, never implemented, and why not?" kind of complaints. Those they might even read. Stranger things have happened, and yes, I've seen Bridge folk here. Maybe not often, but maybe there aren't very many of them, so time here isn't time fixing anything.

> Maybe the trick is to get Adobe to see some AI application for it then they might perk up! >

I like that!<G> And we know there's AI in the Find function of LR CC. So there have to be ways to use AI in Bridge.  '-}
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5 years, 62 votes, 6 pages long theard etc yes I think they care! Thank you you let me open my eyes, I don't know why I thought something wrong is going over here.
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And for what, 2 of those 5 years they didn't touch the software, and now their mandate is to first get performance fast AND stable, and they haven't gotten there yet, so they should drop everything and get that panel up and running again? Because everyone is affected by the lack of an Export panel the way they are by the lack of stable performance? Because 62 people in 5 years voted for it, and the thread, which the site has set up to never be able to die, hasn't died in that time?

 At least this site doesn't let any of us vote NO, or you might see 62 Yes and 162 No. Maybe that would stop some of the complaints if we could vote No, but . . . We've even got almost as many Unfollowing it. They're no longer interested? Never were?  Perhaps because we have different needs, different priorities, find different solutions if they exist.

I get it—some people want an Export panel back. What I don't get is insisting if they don't get it, it's because nobody cares about their needs. So go ahead and be as sarcastic as you like, but I stop at the point where I'm accusing people who work for Adobe, whom I don't know personally, who work under conditions I know nothing about, that they aren't decent human beings, don't care what garbage they give us to work with, so long as they are employed.  I don't expect to be attacked after I've knocked myself out learning and writing about a tool or technique— just because I didn't also write about someone's pet tool or technique, so I don't think I'll do that to others. Your mileage may vary.
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i: would like the export panel restored.
you: should seriously look into anger management services and medication.

have a beautiful day.
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I'm television hothead I don't watch from 5 years, but I still have TV set in my room, so noone can say I don't care of my passion. I'm just always ready to see new movie - one day untill I'm daed.

That's simple - no priority - no care. Noone accuses noone of anything, just stating if they don't give something we want back they don't care. This way we don't have hope for something that's already uneeded when finally implemented.

When I don't get paid for job I did I don't live in illusion that after next months of waiting somone will do it ever. Moving forward is better than defending something that wasn't that it looked to be, only because we want to believe everything we imagined should be better than provided. Adobe is company that doesn't want Bridge was better than now. If they did, we had no topics like this one. It's no offence to them if that's a way they chose to follow. But then the fact is that is not their goal something finally worked.

I don't know that's true or mystification, that's no matter, but I heard US landed 6 times on moon during hardly three years in the days powerfull computers were a dream. That's more complex to realise or make it looked real than some enhancements to Bridge if (no)programmers like Paul Riggott or David Converse can do it somehow by workaround.

If Bridge team can't even fix little bugs after years of their existence or restore that worked fine however that's management decision or whoever, conclusion is obvious. They don't want to do it as they don't care. No single people, but somone who can push it up. They give something we like - we say how we are happy, they do nothing about that we expect we share our sadness. Now more than a shock to their (un)doings, it's like kind of bitter acceptance as well.
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We are in dystopia. "Delete is the new export"
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You are welcome to download my JPEG Multiexport script. It actually does quite a bit more than the old Export panel and is Apache-licensed Open Source/Free Software.

Or just use Image Processor Pro. Either way, the JPEG export options in Bridge are actually better than what is built into Lightroom, FWIW.
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Hey,
very good Job! Many thanks. The Export Panel i missed that much, i left cs6 installed, just to use the export tool....

now i have tested your tool, it seems to work great. But, there is one little thing missing :)
i can not leave the panel without exporting anything. once opened, i can "export" but not "abort" (no "X" an the window too).

so i have to shut down bridge or have to export at least one picture, which i have to delete afterwords.

would be great to add the possibility :)

Lukas!
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Abobe made a bunch of changes to ScriptUI and one was to ignore their own documentation about the close widget. I have an updated version of the script which fixes that problem and fixes deleting the TIFF metadata which causes loss of ppi resolution data.

Just need to get it packaged and uploaded. But thank you for reporting that!
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David, I’m using this daily, thank you for your continued effort updating this.
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I missed something Kindly repost where to find the aforementioned code.
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hey, thanks, as soon as you post an updated link im going to test the new version.
many thinks for the great job and the fast answer!
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I've submitted this and a few other utility scripts to Adobe Exchange, once they are published I'll post the link.
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Ok folks, new link to download this and a few other utility scripts. Direct from Abode Exchange.

https://www.adobeexchange.com/creativecloud.details.101130.html

The CC app should download a zip file to your downloads folder. Inside are the scripts, you can install the ones you want to use.

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hey,
i tried to install it bout the link. the pages refreshes several times but nothing happened. trying to download worked after a few tries. but, (using the Anastasiy’s Extension Manager) nothing changes. no progress bar or "cancel" button

(creative cloud 4.7)
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CC should download a Zip file to your downloads folder. Manually unzip that and follow the directions on the Exchange page to install.
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New version is great. Love the multi resize, and process bar.  Now if you could only let us preset the folder name (saves me renaming "Full" or "2048" for the customer)  and not locking up bridge while it processes I would littlerally have your babies!!!
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I'm not sure how a preset folder name would work? That's how you keep different sizes separated.

Unfortunately, a lot of things in Bridge aren't multithreaded and so one action takes over the program. There is a way to create a long-running background process but it would take a lot of development work and I haven't found any sample code on how to do it. For smaller batches it shouldn't matter.

I use this script in production since its faster than exporting with Photoshop.
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Its just a chore to rename them every time. I can't give a customer a folder called "Full" for example. I have to rename them all to "HQ files for printing" or "Social Media Ready" so the muggles know what they are. I know Image Processor Pro does it but I dont think you can use the script in bridge can you? Only Photoshop and that stops my work flow even more. The background process was the main reason the old Export panel was invaluable and still greatly missed. But your script helps massively. I just have to think ahead and have the next shoot or weddings edits loaded into photoshop before I start to export in bridge so I can continue working. Again can't thank you enough. 
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hey, maybe my english ist noch good enough :) or i jused not enough words to explain what happened while trying to install.

- cc doesnt download anything. the only thing it does was to refresh the webpage over and over again until i stopped it
- downloading manually works after a few tries
- now i had a container and i tried to use the tool you mentioned to install it to the bridge. the tool said "ok"
- no changes in the bridge

i will try it again with an other PC, maybe download will work there, so i can copy the files to this computer after
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oh, one other questions :)

i used the (old version) tool yesterday. in this case i had pictures in my folder from two cameras with different file names. so i sorted them by the moment the pictures was taken.
but, after the export, in the explorer i am only able to sort by the filename (or on tv for example) so i like to rename the pictures. there ist a way to put a number to the filename, but just as an suffix, not as a präfix.

i dont know if it is easy, or if it is a lot of work. But for me it would be great, to have more freedom to build the string for renaming. maybe an easy way is to make possible to write the string by myself (i tried to write <current> after the _001)

thanks!
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Adobe's directions are really confusing and I'm not sure how they handle things on their end. There should just be a zip file in your downloads.

You can add a sequence number in the filename options. <current> is just a placeholder for the existing filename. Bridge also has Batch Rename if you need something more than the built-in options.

I'll see about assigning a folder name but either way you would have to type it in, and manual would be slower, I'd think.
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hey,
i have seen that i can add a number, but i cannot decide to put it in front of the current name.
for me it would be perfect to have the sequence followed by the original filename. so the pictures will be in the correct order on an other pc or tv. but if i want to, i can easily find the original file with the name in the jpg filename
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Yeah I'm afraid for that you would need to use Batch Rename to add a sequence to the front.
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ok
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BTW there are still Bridge bugs causing problems. For example, images from a search won't work and some special folders (including the Desktop) fail. Until Adobe fixes the underlying bug (which is not being able to generate a Thumbnail for the Desktop), I'm stuck.