Please give us a 64-bit version of Adobe Color Management Module (CMM)

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There are a lot of people out there that could use a 64-bit version of Adobe CMM. At the very least users of Canon's iPF pro printers, such as the iPF8300 and iPF6300, would love to see this so they can use Canon's excellent print plug-in in 64-bit. The print plug-in is built to use CMM. For many of the same reasons there is a 64-bit version of Photoshop, there should be a 64-bit version of CMM. It's as if Photoshop 64-bit is unfinished -- CMM is an important component for many of us. And if you also use a Canon ipF printer, it is twice as important. I'm sure Canon would love for you to complete and issue the 64-bit version of CMM. There are many of us out here. Please help us out. Thanks.
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>Really, why is Adobe even putting up a fuss about this?

Because programming isn’t free, (nor tech support, documentation, taking people off other coding, hosting updates). And I don’t see them putting up a fuss. I see people who want a 64-bit CMM in a print manufacturers driver that don’t provide that putting up a fuss.
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Right, and their software also costs money, which we have all paid.

Adobe provided a 32bit version of CMM for any vendor to use, and some vendors decided to use it. Now adobe is leaving those vendors and customers in the dark ages of 32-bit.

Their silence on the topic is disappointing.
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>Right, and their software also costs money, which we have all paid.

Well in ALL the 64-bit Adobe products I own that access the CMM, it works fine. Explain that.
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Right, Adobe, explain that. :)
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I just upgraded to PS CS5 on my Mac - it took me awhile to figure out why I was receiving a message from within the IPF6350 plugin to the effect the the Adobe CMM I had just installed was in fact "not installed". It's annoying however I figure I can manage in 32 bit mode; my work doesn't demand enough RAM for 64-bit to matter. I'm surprised that nobody here seems to have mentioned a willingness to pay for a 64-bit CMM. What's anyone's pain point on this? I'd be willing to shell out a modest sum -$25-$50 - to reap the benefits of a full 64 bit workflow and I'm not even selling my work - I'm an advanced hobbyist. Wouldn't you pros be willing to buy this from Adobe? Or, put another way, shouldn't Canon, which is reaping the benefit of all the ink, paper and hardware sales all of us generate, work out a payment arrangement with Adobe to develop the necessary software and distribute this to IPF users for free? I think so..

Seth
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My work does demand a 64-bit workflow. I'm not sure why I need to jump through hoops with workarounds in my workflow suggested by Mr. Rodney when those using 32-bit with smaller files don't have to. Sure I'd be willing to pay some money to buy it. But let's be clear, this is not a big piece of software, it's not Photoshop and it's not even creating it from whole cloth. They have a 32-bit version, it doesn't take that much effort to port it to 64-bit. It's not a challenging task, it's not rocket science. I really don't see what the big deal is, I really don't see why it wasn't produced as a matter of course, or why they decided NOT to produce it in 64-bit.

Out of curiosity, if Canon were to fund Adobe's direct costs to produce the 64-bit CMM so Adobe could make it available to everyone (not just Canon iPF users) how much would it cost?
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My I present another vote in support of 64bit CMM... I use Corel Painter 12 (along with Photoshop and other Adobe products). Since the CMM is built into the Adobe products and the CMM was provided for third-parties to use for a consistent workflow it would now make sense to update the CMM to 64bit. I do not have Canon printers I have Painter 12 which is now a 64 bit application. For a consistent workflow I would like to use Adobe CMM in other 64bit applications.

I know this isn't a technical explanation... just an example of other than Canon users that would wish for this update.

Take care,
Bob
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Bob, I think you are the first person to give a reason beyond Canon printers - hopefully Adobe listens a little more.
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john woolard

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Yes, please hurry up Adobe and release a 64 bit version of CMM.
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Chris Cox

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Please read the previous comments and questions.
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David Brown

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Why don't you provide a 64 bit version of CMM?
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I'm coming to this topic as another iPF user wondering about the a 64bit version of CMM. As a purchaser of every single version of the complete CS suite of products since version 1 (plus LR), I would appreciate being able to achieve the highest level of print quality possible in these apps via Canon's export plug-in.

Those suggesting Canon put themselves in this position and should now deal with the problem themselves fail to give Canon credit for providing a way to overcome the Windows OS 8-bit printing limitation. It wasn't hubris that motivated them to develop a work around to the standard Windows print driver. Nor was it unreasonable to assume that as the world migrated toward 64 bit applications, the Adobe CMM would follow suit. This is not to suggest that because Adobe provided 32 bit CMM for free that they are obligated to do it again. It's just a bummer of a situation. The Adobe position suggests that they feel the need that motivated the creation of the original 32 bit CMM may no longer exist. Maybe this is true.

One thing I do know for sure is that I've been a fan and follower of Andrew Rodney and his contributions to the area of color management for many years now but the tenor of his responses on this thread have forever changed my opinion of him. It's not what you said, Andrew, but how you said it.
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Please put me down as a longtime Adobe client requesting the 64bit CMM.
Thanks.
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I understand that CS6 will only run on Macs capable of running in 64-bit mode. Sounds to me as if that will break the Canon plug-in once and for all as, I would assume, there will be no way to run Photoshop in 32-bit mode to accommodate it. Has anyone explored this at all? Perhaps Canon will design a different plug-in; might be interesting to inquire.
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Canon released 64 bit plug-ins for CS5 for all the iPF printers and they appear to be working great in CS6 as well. The loss of Adobe's 64 CMM seems of little significance since the OS CMM works so well.
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Good timing on this - I had just composed but had not yet mailed a letter to Canon asking about the future of the plugin. I'll download the new one and try it out. Did you have to make any adjustments to obtain comparable results with the OS CMM?
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Not with Perceptual and my own profiles, no.
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will be there soon a CMM Photoshop CS5 64 bit version coming? We really could need this!!

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
CMM 64 Bit.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why Canon can't just use Apple's built-in CMM. I also don't know why Canon's driver requires no less than FIVE separate installers to be downloaded: Media Config Tool, Additional Media Info Files, Driver Updater, Photoshop Plug-in. Not to mention the printer's firmware update.
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But still, Adobe, why not make a 64-bit Adobe CMM? Come on now.
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I believe the instructions for the new plug-in are to use the Apple CMM. I still run in 32-bit mode b/o wanting to use Contact Sheet II functionality which is not available in 64-bit so in the end the Apple-vs-Adobe CMM issue is moot for me - but then I'm not in commercial production here.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Adobe CMM 64 bit.


We really need Adobe CMM updated to 64 bit so those of us using imagePrograf printers and the Canon Print Plugin for Photoshop can select Black Point Compensation. This is critical.
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Funny how this request isn't going away. More than 2 years later, Adobe's customers still want it, still think it is a useful and valuable for their work.
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Canon iPF owners want it which isn't necessarily Adobe's problem. I'd argue that Perceptual is where it's at for most plug-in users. RelCol with BPC can still happen in PS before printing with the plug-in. Would be nice to have ReCol with BPC in the plug-in but it's hard to ask Adobe to do this just for Canon's customers. We could just as much ask Apple or MS to support this in the OS CMM...
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
ADOBE CMM-CANON PRINT PLG-IN.


"I have a MAJOR problem with your 100% lack of fulfilling your responsibility to those of us whom have purchased your CS6 Suite. It IS your responsibility to provide us with the Adobe CMM for the Canon plug-in 64 bit so that WE not only those of CS5/CC are able to produce correct color when we print. I KNOW that Canon has been speaking to you about this for the last three years. GIVE US AN UPDATE. It IS your fiduciary responsibility to correctly provide for your clients. IT IS YOUR CLIENTS RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO CORRRECTLY PRINT. Designing with your wonderful program is only half of it. We MUST be able to take these creations out of the computer and on to the printed page IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE CREATED IT! WE are not supposed to be forced to either go backwards to a preceding program or to be forced into purchasing a program that we have no desire to own!!! UPDATE NOW!"
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Dear Adobe, it is nice(for you) you take my money every month, but if do not make this 64 bit CCM until my subscription is due for renew I will not renew and will use your software for free until you make this CCM! The only point of paying is the support,  which is missing at the moment!