Lightroom Classic: Expand the WB range beyond 50,000K temperate max

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I am running out of settings to make photos warm as I need to during blue hour / or golden hour shade / cloudy day evening shade. Certain presents I absolutely love (like annigraham), but in certain situations I can’t make them warm enough. I max out at 50k kalvin and that’s as far as I can go. I need to go to like 60+ to get it as warm as I want it. The only idea adobe has had for me thus far was to export the photo and import it back in, and then that would allow me to go Warner. However, that would degrade the photo, and frankly aint’ nobody got time for that.... when there are after more than 50 images I need warmer per session. Please give us the ability to make temp warmer!! And, while you’re at it, also give us be ability to remove ALL the default Lightroom presets. Nobody uses those past the first couple months using LR.
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Have you tried adding a graduated filter, that is moved all the way down so the colored part is covering the entire photo? You can set an extra warm temperature with such a filter, and you can add as many filters on top of each other as you like.
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The max is still 50,000K for temp, no matter how many filters you add, or warm brush you paint with, etc.
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Have you tried adding a yellow-ish split tone? And i've never heard or seen an image shot in natural light which needs to go above 7K, so maybe the preset you're using is adding blue to the image?
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Maybe he's faking a sunset? I have seen this kind of Temperature settings for underwater photos, but indeed never for landscape photos.
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I shoot in 6k white balance, all day, because I find that I can make that work all wedding day and correct it, flash no flash, first look, golden hour. The only time it gets really blue is that tail end of daylight, blue hour. I think I’ll need to shoot warmer in camera is the thing.... I contacted the creator of this preset and she shoots in auto white balance. I shoot 6k. I’m not about to switch to auto WB, I used to shoot that way and it cost me dearly in editing. Shooting a set 6 or 6.5k has basically cut my editing time in half. I might just have to watch my K’s when things get cooler outside or it’s cloudy... it’s just one more thing to watch tho. Would be so much easier if I could just go beyond that 50,000k limit.

And yes, did just try a yellow split tone into highlights and that did help.

Also yes, the preset is adding blues into the shadows. I might have to mess with that... I just didn’t want to have to change everything about the preset to make it work.
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"And, while you’re at it, also give us be ability to remove ALL the default Lightroom presets. Nobody uses those past the first couple months using LR."

Please vote for and follow this topic: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/delete_default_develop_presets
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Have tried that multiple times.... adobe is basically deaf to our requests to remove default presets, and with the last LR classic version update they’ve actually added more!!!! So now it’s taking even more room on the left hand side.
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You can now do this using the new profile system in Lightroom. You can basically create a profile that adds 50000K to the set one. This is done by opening the raw image in camera raw through Photoshop. As the only change set the WB slider to 50000. Then go the the preset tab and option/alt click the new preset botton (the tiny page with a folded corner). Give your profile a name and save it. Now quit and reopen Lightroom and you'll have a new profile you can select in the profile browser that adds 50000K to the White balance (you will only see it in the image, not in the white balance value which will remain the same value as shot). If you want to know more, go to https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#resources and download the Profiles SDK which contains detailed instructions.
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Unfortunately, that doesn't work the way you'd hope it would. Saving a Profile with 50000K will bake that setting into the profile... if you try and change the WB once applied, you'll find that you can go cooler, but since you've maxed out the WB in the Profile, you can't make it any warmer. 
Essentially, all the sliders have an absolute value and even though they're reset to zero after being applied by a profile, there's dishonestly in that appearance. The only two sliders which don't conform to this behavior are shadows and highlights - if you create a profile with a Tone Map Strength set to med or high, you can go beyond the boundaries.
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Didn’t realize that. In that case the way to go is a dng profile editor profile or you could generate a LUT in Photoshop that warms the image and encase that in a profile. That’s quite advanced though.
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Although I haven’t tried it on an image with Temp set to max, I think the trick with the graduated filter should work.
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Hmmm interesting suggestions. Wishing they were a bit easier...