Lightroom Classic: Placing photos on Map module erratic and slow since update LR Classic CC 7.5 (Windows)

I'm sorry but I can't see how your "Geotagging 101" relates to the issue I described.
Or were you describing an issue of your own, maybe?

Nope I don't have any problems with the methods you are having problems with. I geotag 100% of my photos as well hence suggest other methods. I just completed geotagging over a 1000 photos travel shoot. However I see your problem was replicated by Adobe. Would be interested to know under what conditions does geotagging rendered ineffective and Adobe's recommendation.

But you do have that offset problem, don't you? I'm not experiencing it (or at least I am not able to detect it visually).
On the other hand, did you geotag 1000 photos with 7.5 already? Man that's fast, I think it was released yesterday. Good work.

PS. FWIW, I'm using Windows 10. Might be an OS thing?

Wow, CS Chua - great to hear your experience! Were you trying that with the new 7.5 update?

A friend had the offset problem with LR 7.5 and Windows 10. A reinitialization of the LR preference fixed it (and as a bonus, improved the LR performance !).

Hey GOapher, thanks for taking the time to reproduce this issue.

It is truly an inconvenience since, like I said, I geotag photos on a daily basis. Luckily, I don't need 7.5, so I can live with 7.4. 

I hope this gets fixed sooner than later, though.

Thanks again.

Yes, I did get that scary message about the map Module (or at least the ability to display photos on the map) going away on november 30th 2018 , until Rikk Flohr gave a definite answer about the subject on this thread.

Still, I am not sure whether the Address Lookup service experienced any pause during this time. I did not pause it,  at least that I am aware of.

I will give a try to cleaning the preferences  when I can, but first I would need to update to 7.5 again (which for some reason, takes a while, same as updating any CC app), then if it doesn't work, roll back again to 7.4 and set my preferences again. So, I will have to set some time aside to try that. Also, since 7.5 is pretty new and (so far) no one else seems to complain about this issue, I would also like to wait and see if other people are experiencing this problem.

When I do so, I will let you know the results. Thanks for your attention to this matter.

Well, an update before I thought...

The Address Lookup feature stopped working on my computer with LR 7.4 a while ago (?). Out of desperation, I updated again to 7.5, to see what happened this time around.

The first time I opened LR 7.5 right after this second update, I was (again) unable to geo-tag any photo (no dragging, no ctrl+clicking, no right click and "Add GPS coord."... Nothing). But this time, instead of trying with more photos, I quickly closed LR, and then I started it again. And now it is working! (Both geotagging and the Adress Lookup).

Of course, I already tried restarting the first time I updated. The only difference is that, on my first update to 7.5, I spent a while trying to put photos on the map (to no avail) before I finally tried restarting LR. It's as if insisting on this on the first run made the issue stick. Or maybe it's just coincidence.

Whatever the real reason, I just hope it stays like this. Thanks again for your help, GOapher!

Hey Fred, just so you know, although I said it was solved, the next day this issue was happening again. But now I've realised that, by closing and restarting LR, eventually the map Module works again. Normally it takes 1 restart, 2 tops, and that's if the issue happens at all to begin with (now it only happens every now and then).

I guess it's another one of those quirks that appear with one update, and then go away with the next update. Or so I hope...

PS. I don't know if this has anything to do, but I also use 2 screens.

Thanks for the answer. I will give it try.

Same thing as I reported, almost simultaneously!

Hi G0apher,

I have upgraded back to 7.5 to try geocoding and still it is not working correctly. Some times it works, sometimes not, and when it works it is really slow and it seems that even that it has writen geodata into the metadata it does not refresh the map to show it has worked, but if you select a diferent image then it refresh the information.

This morning I tried, and it was working 100% of the time. But of course, I didn't want to be overconfident, so, I decided to wait a little more.

And it looks like I did the right thing, because now, it's doing weird things again. It does work sometimes, then it stops working, then it works, then it doesn't, etc. As far as I can see, there's no rhyme or reason as to why it works or doesn't work.

Thanks for looking into this, please keep trying....

Hi G0apher,
For me, too, it's still not working correctly. It could be that it has improved somewhat, sometimes it does the geotagging instantly, but on other occasions I have to try 3-6 times before the tag catches. Sometimes I try ctrl-click to no avail 6 times, then do right-click and "attach geotags" and it works at once. Or the other way around. Still erratic behaviour it seems.
What do you need the API for anyway? This looks like a local action: click on a local map, place the pin, and add the coordinates you clicked on to the photo(s). Only if you need address lookup, I can imagine you make a web call. But I switched that off.
Sorry, but it doesn't seem be solved yet.
Regards, Joop

Just did a quick test with about 150 photos taken in several groups and all were pinned and geotagged correctly (although a bit slow with a group of 70 photos).
I tested my protocol (suppressing the coordinates) and I couldn't reproduce the problem.
So far it seems to work fine.

For the last 24 hours, it's been working flawlessly for me (like it did before 7.5 was launched). I feel unsure about this though, since so many times it seemed to work, then it stopped working again.  But still, I think this is the longest "good streak" since 7.5 was released.

On a related note, I also feel like some kind of explanation is missing, and maybe we will never get it, but... if the LR Team is fixing this by upgrading the API limits, doesn't it mean they lowered or restricted them at some point, probably around the same time 7.5 was launched? If so, I wonder why they took such a poor decision.

Well, nevermind as long as this keeps on working. I hope more people will share their experience, to confirm this is fixed. But then again, if this Mangalick guy or his minions (because I am pretty sure he is the one behind all this mess) can alter the API rate at their whim 5 minutes after I post this message, then I guess we will never have a permanent solution.

Whatever the case, thank you again, GOapher, for your attention to this matter, and for keeping us posted in a timely manner. It's much appreciated.

I've been doing quite a few photographs this afternoon (singles and groups of photos) and although not an exhaustive test, everything seems to be working fine for me now.
Thank you for looking into this in such a timely manner.

Hi,

I have tried some images and I can not see any diference, it works for some geocoding (15 or 20) very slow and after that it does not work anymore unless you restart the aplication.

This is marked as being fixed but I'm afraid it very much is NOT fixed when I tried it just now.  No issues with tracklogs (presumably as data is being provided), but dragging and dropping individual items onto the map is painfully slow and >75% of the time doesn't work at all. I've tried restarting Lightroom but to no avail.

This is a key part of my workflow for photos and I trust this is being given priority as a fix.

Sorry to hear that Alan.

Does it not work at all or only works slowly - while filling in the Location (City, State, Sublocation, Country) fields? Does it happen with single photos as well as multiple photos?

I got there in the end, it was just extremely slow - I tried both multiple photos at once and one at a time.  I would repeatedly drag it onto the map then nothing would happen. Eventually after many minutes per photo it would seem to stick.  I'm not quite sure what you mean about filling in Location fields - I was just dragging and dropping onto the map.

As mentioned above the tracklog worked fine and allocated all the photos OK.

I've pasted system info above too.

I tried the same workflow, and could not see any issue with the Map module. Could you share a screen-recording of Lightroom when this behaviour presents?

Also, kindly share your System Info (Help -> System Info) details.

Thanks for the details, as we try and investigate this issue further.

System info below.  I don't have any screen recording software installed at present, anything you'd recommend?  It did eventually tag things but took minutes per photo.

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Thanks for the details Alan - you could try the Windows Game Bar (hit Windows Key + G) that is available on Windows 10 to record screen contents as a video. Please share a recording that details your actions for tagging photos onto the Map, as well as switching to Library Mode and back. You could upload the same on any public share, and share the link here.

I will do next time it happens - seems to be behaving itself this evening!

OK now having the issue again, this time on my laptop.  Win + G doesn't so anything on my machine but behaviour is exactly as described by many others in this thread - drag photos onto map and nothing happens.  Randomly after switching to/from map mode it will sometimes tag them, but not reliably.