Photoshop: Free Transform - ability to set Maintain Aspect Ratio as default

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In Photoshop, it would be nice when "free transforming" a layer that the "maintain aspect ratio" lock button would maintain the previous setting, or some other way to set the default mode. I'm frustrated that I have to click it each time I'm resizing a bunch of items individually. Thanks.

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Or, at the very least, set the toggle permanently for all objects or, even, that object. Setting a default might be too much, but switching back after every single transform commit is idiotic.
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Use the shift+alt key!
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Markus Lankeit

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Read the past thread as to why this won't work!
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Dear Mister Smarty Pants, first of all, shift+alt key doesn't even work. Whenever you try to do a free transform, the percentage at the top is never equal to each other even using shift+alt. It's always off by either a 1% and sometimes that's can distort logos and icons that are very small. The only way to resolve that problem is by clicking the chain.

I ask you to try this yourself and if by miracle you can get the H & W the same exact percentage without hitting the chain, I will come to your house and lick your fingers for magical essence. Because there's zero way you are helping this forum by commenting silly known solutions, than understanding the problem.
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Sorry Len Goforth, please get better out of this thread, if you are not interested. It's just making angry to listen to your unconsideted comments. If you haven't the experience right now to understand what's going on in many peoples practice, you will not get it here by long explanations. I'm deep in photoshop since 1994 and there's nothing new you could tell me... shift Key... LOL...
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p.s. The transform has also a bug since 20 years(!): If you come too close to the borders of the canvas the transforming frame starts rapidly increasing itself and destroys your adjustment process... I think everybody knows this issue, but seems not to be worth to fix it for adobe...
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Seriously Adobe, your users are asking for this feature for 10 years... http://www.webmaster-talk.com/general...

We have to click this little button EACH TIMES we wants to resize something with fixed dimensions.
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PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE fix this! I too have to click this dang box EVERY time I transform an object, which is many, many times a day. When does an object NOT get transformed in Photoshop and WHEN would we NOT want it to have the aspect ratio maintained?! I would have paid an upgrade price just for this ONE improvement. You could save us more time than a faster program with this fix. Please make it a priority for an update!
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I was responding to specific points by Suzanne.

You may also notice that at no point did I say "no", or "that's not a good idea", or any other phrase that might in any way indicate that I don't agree with the request. I simply responded to a few issues in Suzanne's post.

Also, you really don't know my background. So setting up a straw man argument based on bad assumptions of my background really doesn't help.

(also, your prior assumptions on the complexity of code needed to implement this - are pretty far off)

It would be far more helpful to describe why you need such a feature, and how it would save time/effort. That would make it much easier for me to justify to the product managers while I'm trying to figure out how to implement it with appropriate UI and without a lot of hassle.
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Dear Chris,

I'm not trying to be belligerent, but I think the reasons for why we are asking for this feature are adequately documented in this thread already. Just look at Suzanne's post, the essence of which is repeated throughout the thread. While it is true that you did not deliberately call it a bad idea, your response of using the shift-modifier has been offered a few times in the thread already. It gets a little frustrating when the nature of the request keeps getting ignored.

Since you ask for detail, I will offer you how it affects me... I use Photoshop a lot for layout tasks, and that frequently involves placing all sorts of elements (pictures, text, etc) and resizing them. 100% of the time, "resizing" means "maintain aspect ratio." My pictures are product images, which I've photographed. But the photographs typically have one item and usually are done at different times (as new product is released), so the camera setup is always different. That means I have to size-correct my images as part of doing layout, so all the items in one series that are 10" tall are actually the same final size. Similarly, other items on the page that are smaller/larger need to be proportionally adjusted. The free-transform drag to resize just doesn't work for me--I need the precision of pixels. And, yes, it is a pain to always have to check the same "maintain aspect ratio" box every time I select one of the 30-40 images on my page (multiply this by 30+ pages in my case). I can only imagine that the other commentators in this thread also find themselves constantly going back to check this box, hence their frustration.

My request is for a global preference, but you say that this is significant work. You're right that I don't know the Photoshop code base. Another poster suggested just keeping this box checked once selected, similar to how one can change the scaling from "%" to "px" and this is retained between selecting other layers. Both of these suggestions would solve the problem, which is that I have to check this same box repeatedly and often. If you can find another solution, that would be great, but let's leave shift-drag aside as it just won't do.

Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions.

Thx.

-ml
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Suzanne's post is similar to others here that are lacking in the needed details. I responded to start a conversation in order to get details.

Thank you for providing more details about your work. Yes, a photo layout workflow would involve more aspect ratio preservation than, say, a web or phone design workflow (which is more about arbitrary sized rectangles and rounded rectangles). And if you don't have preset grids/guides to follow, you would need to use numeric entry to scale the photos to all match in size.

Having the aspect ratio button sticky (like units and other items) might work - but I actually do have to take all the common workflows into consideration before making such a change. So the more we know about the workflows, the better.
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Web design is arbitrary?

In my workflow, I use it all the time and the two main reasons are 1) to consistently resize things; 2) I often place a large image on a small canvas and use the numeric transform to resize (usually with the arrow keys and not numbers).
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Agree with jod-z regarding web-design... I don't touch it as often, but essentially the same pain-points exist, especially when placing a large source image to a smaller canvas (typical when doing web stuff). Bottom line is that resizing almost always involves preserving the aspect ratio. The only time I do not need it is when I try to adapt backgrounds between different size media, like developing a web-banner using the background graphics from our catalog. That's really the 1% of the time I need to stretch and distort. The other 99% of the time, I always need to preserve aspect ratio.

Also, on my layout workflow, ascribing the fundamental issue to a lack of guides misses the point. Firstly, I use plenty of guides as-is. Secondly, (a) my product sizes vary between items; (b) overall sizes vary between pages; (c) grid-style layout is boring; therefore, creating a guide grid is usually not practical. Thirdly, even if I use guides, I still have to either manually check the "preserve aspect ratio" box or use the shift-modifier. The ask is that I don't have to repeatedly do this with every object I select, guides or no guides.

Thx.

-ml
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Please just add the ability to "stick" to what it was last set to, just like every other option in the program. I can't imagine why this is such an obstacle for you guys to implement.

We don't have to chose "Point Sample" and "All Layers" for example, every time we click the Eyedropper Tool. We don't have to click the "Current & Below" evey single time we use the Clone Stamp Tool. We don't have to select "Path" every single time we use the Pen Tool, and so on and so on. No, they stay what they were last set to as does every other tool option in the program. It just doesn't make any sense, who could it possibly offend to have it stay where it last was?
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Official Response
Hi Everyone,

Thank you for contributing to this discussion. Proportional transform is now the default behavior on Photoshop 20.0 with all but vector graphics. Photoshop 20.0 is available for download today. Please open the Creative Cloud app, download the update and let us know how it goes for you. If you do not see the update immediately, sign in and sign out of the Creative Cloud.

Thank you,
Hannah
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Now in  Transform holding option constrains the aspect ratio, Who the heck decided to change this convention?? It's nuts and against everything we've learned. PLEASE REVERT to SHIFT constrains. PLEASE!!!!!!
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It's been a few months now that this feature is implemented but I can not get used to this new mode by default. My brain has been conditioned for years to use the shift key, this is so frustrating.
Plus, you still have to use shift to transform vector shapes proportionally and not for the rest, that is so inconsistant... Please offer a setting to revert back to previous behaviour.
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Nicolas

With the 20.0.5 update, there is now a user facing preference under Preferences > General... and check "Use Legacy Free Transform"


https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/fixed-issues.html
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Still using 20.0.4
It's time for an upgrade ... :-)
Thanks @Rosa
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You're very welcome :)
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Please remove this as the *Default* behavior.
For years, every single user has muscle memory ingrained of using shift for maintaining aspect ratio. If you are going to change that, at least allow for an option to revert it as now it is very frustrating.

Also Please be CONSISTENT:
- If you scale an image, the default behavior is to maintain dimensions (shift to free transform)
If you scale a shape, the default behavior is free transform (shift to maintain dimensions)

How does that make sense? How is that useable and not confusing?
Every. Single. Other. Adobe program uses the old schema of default being to free transform and using shift to maintain dimensions. Why is Photoshop any different?

Please add a way to turn this off!
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You may also read posts from last few days to get answer even more than once ;)
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It looks like engineers working for Adobe don't test and compare anything, just follow directives without arguing, or maybe each time there are changes Adobe hires new programmers team that can do things as continuation of that someone made originaly. Something is bad-thought as in company I work for such oversights are unacceptable.
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At the very least, the workaround text file trick works out well and I can get my work done without having to deal with this big step backwards.

For others that come into this thread, here is the text content of that image so you can copy and paste what has worked for me. Hopefully the formatting will not mess up the text.

TransformProportionalScale 0

PSUserConfig.txt
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for SEO purposes - Here is the fix for photoshop scale proportional ratio bug
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ABSOLUTELY Patrick.
Please listen ADOBE!
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Ugh, I hate this new behavior.  It doesn't seem to be working correctly for me.  Whether that chain icon is clicked or not, it maintains the aspect ratio.  It used to work, with the old Photoshop.  And even if it did work correctly, what a pain.  Make it sticky, please.  
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I use that chain only when I manually enter a value, then scroll with mouse to increase it. So I'd like it was remembered or chosen as option, but not always pressed that each time you transfrom it is already on. It was sufficient to just do what Rocky Bomgaars asked 7 years ago! Really weird they let us wait so long, and when finally it's incorporated it does not work the way 'we' requested it :(
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Yes! Make it sticky at least or put an option to select preferred default behavior in the preferences. The way it works now is really stupid and unhelpful. It doesn't make any sense to change a basic feature like this that's been the same for 15 years because brand new users think it should work the way they want it to.
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Bug. Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar does not work in cc 2019.
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 Need to look at this bug also with the constrain link -

When you un-check the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar and then use transform it still maintains aspect ratio. . . un-checking the link should disable maintain aspect ratio shouldn't it? Well it doesn't.

Also shift key + transform disables Maintain aspect ratio but doesn't correspond with the constrain link on the tool bar. 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/constrained-resize-ps-cc-20?topic-reply-list%...

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Meanwhile it must be oviously, that it is buggy and inconsistent. And I can not imagine, that Adobe isn't already trying to fix this. Or am I wrong??
It would be just great – if not better to say – "intelligent", if they would ask betatesters from this forum for opinion and check. It seems there is no developer with vast overview, maybe they always have a special field in comparison to experienced users... at least it's my explanation to this. And I am still working with CC 2018...
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the new behavior is not consistent!!!! you still need to hold shift for creating shapes, - also holding alt to expand outwards equally is now broken.  is there a way to turn off this new behavior? 
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There's solution in previous posts of this theard that should work for you if you want to keep v20.
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That already started with CC 2018, now it's just worse continuation of lame releases.
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How do you uninstall CC2019 and revert to CC 2018?
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Kukurykus

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Use Adobe Creative Cloud application. There you can (un)instal certain version.
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It's really not very obvious. On the right across from your version of CC2019 in the Creative Cloud app's Apps section, click on the disclosure triangle next to Open (or Update), and choose manage. You don't need to uninstall 2019 to install 2018 (though you can if you like). But that's where you can both choose to uninstall AND choose Other Versions, where you can reinstall 2018.
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W the actual F, Adobe? I updated my CC like a good little boy and now I have this cracked-out scaling nonsense?

You mentioned the Undo changes on startup but not this? I don't even have words, I'm so pissed off about this right now, especially since I'm in the middle of a crazy last-minute deadline (communications designer, news fell into our lap this morning).
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Jeff, just a heads-up that transform/distort now requires the shift key to properly distort. I imagine that for 99% of the users, contrstrain distort is not what's wanted when invoking distort.
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holy cow -- its even worse than I thought.  Sometimes I like to stretch part of an image using the rectangular marquee tool when the image is just a TAD soo small - so Ill stretch it to the left, or up, or something like that.  one direction.   IT TRIES TO MAINTAIN ASPECT RATIO EVEN WHEN IM TRYING TO JUST STRETCH IN ONE DIRECTION!!!!!!!!

im reverting.  this is crazy. 
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it just doesn't make any sense - the only place this should have been a default behavior - is when you grab a CORNER.  If i grab a side transform point... why would I want the other sides to scale too! 
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yeah, it's kind of a big, giant trainwreck.
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I agree! Wait until you try transform/distort. . . that's my worst nightmare!
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Ok, is it not done just holding the shift key?
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I'd like to answer to you, but I just uninstalled Ps 19. I heard though there's some new logic in that.
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Marking this as "Implemented" is an insult. What was implemented was nothing like the above request, but a slipshod afterthought that nobody asked for. A muscle-memory challenging, workflow-interrupting, inconsistent and clumsy UX disaster. 

And give us more room to rotate without accidentally committing!
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This is seriously screwed up.  I think there's a memory issue.  After using Photoshop for awhile, free transform no longer works, even if you unclick the chain icon.  It works for awhile if I restart Photoshop, but eventually stops working.  I have 64 Gb of RAM and never had a problem with the older version of Photoshop.  

This version is pretty much unusable for me, unless I want to keep restarting Photoshop, which is a pain if I have several images open at once.
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Stupid move sorry, on so many levels.
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Come on Adobe! Do you actually have UX designers and QA? Because is just unacceptable...
People are used to the old behavior and the new one is just completely broken. The toggle "lock" button doesn't even work! The behavior is very inconsistent across Adobe products and even in Photoshop itself. Revert this and go back to the drawing board, if you think this is actually an issue. I'm sure there are better solutions.
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this new update is driving me absolutely insane. 10min to figure out how to figure out how to revert to the old undo system, draw for 2 min, 15min to google why my brush is lagging, turn off ruler and draw for 5 min, 30min trying to figure out what the hell happened to the transform function. How many more more surprises are gonna trip me up? I've never had to actually look at the updated features to preform basic functions in PS. I do NOT want to have to relearn the program every time you decide to roll out an update. :/ I'm trying to get things done and it's set me back at least an hour by this point. I am so close to reverting back to the 2018 version, I don't want to learn new habits only for you to change the settings again. 
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Smart-Objects have OTHER transformation keys than normal layers.
I apparently cannot reproduce that, please elaborate. 

How stupid, lazy and ignorant is that???????
How impolite is your choice of words? 
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Ok! step-by-step to reproduce:
1. Create an object and transform it (CTRL+T on windows). It's by default with maintained aspect ratio
2. Create a smart object and transform it. It's by default without maintained aspect ratio.
It means it's inconsistent and impossible to come in a "blind" intuitive workflow.

Why I'm really excited about this:
I have read this here in this thread right in the beginning as a new inconsistency bug and was desperately waiting a half year, because this is not ok for my workflow, where I switch quickly under timepressure between smart objects and pixel layers.
Ok, this can happen. But now nothing is repaired.
And that seems ignorant or lazy to me, sorry.
So much effort was put from users, me too, into collecting ideas, to make a product better and then it stays even worse. And there is really not "intelligent logic" behind this inconsistent tool.

(And I did not try, but I read from users also other objects... just to mention that there could be other transformation things needed to be checked, which are not in my personal workflow)




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1. Create an object and transform it (CTRL+T on windows). It's by default with maintained aspect ratio
2. Create a smart object and transform it. It's by default without maintained aspect ratio.
That is not the case on my computer (Adobe Photoshop Version: 20.0.4, Mac OS 10.12.6), both transformations behave the same namely proportionally by default. 
Shape Layers behave differently because they are Path-based, though. 

What have you done for trouble-shooting so far? 
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Ah ok, then it is maybe a Windows10-Photoshop bug?
Maybe any other Windows Photoshop user here, who could tell, if that works with smart objects in the same way like with pixel layers or not?

I wouldn't know, what I can do for troubleshooting. From the reports I'm quite sure, it has to do with Photoshop.

(I'm working on Mac and PC and at the moment only had installed it on the Windows workstation. I will test it soon on Mac, too. )
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When faced with inexplicable Photoshop-behaviour Restoring Preferences after making sure all customized presets like Actions, Patterns, Brushes etc. have been saved is pretty much the basic starting point:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/basic-trouble-shooting-steps.html