Photoshop: Free Transform - ability to set Maintain Aspect Ratio as default

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In Photoshop, it would be nice when "free transforming" a layer that the "maintain aspect ratio" lock button would maintain the previous setting, or some other way to set the default mode. I'm frustrated that I have to click it each time I'm resizing a bunch of items individually. Thanks.

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ABSOLUTELY! There aren't many things that I don't scale when placed in Photoshop and 99% of them I need to scale proportionally. Why can't Adobe give us a pref or at the very least a 'sticky' option for this button!

They keep trying to give us features we really don't need instead of production enhancers that would help us time wise more than all their new features. Adobe should listen to us old timers who have been using Photoshop since version 1.0! PLEASE give us this simple little request!
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When Adobe opened CC it was like Uber taking place of taxi cars pointing only on the larger markets with biggers profit margins.
So hte last 6 years I've been working on ways of using the crop tool the way my team needs.
Adobe doesn't even imagine its possible to do this but I have successfully create a bunche of scripts that are using the Transform tool in the way it receives the behavior I need for my team.

For example, nowadays I don't even use the native crop tool to my hiper-big image prodution.
For us, crop tool is made for beginners and for creatives that have few images to process in a day.

Our scripts are using free transform using our team ratio (that can be pre-set by the retoucher) as well the our crop permits integrate more info like metadata to builde dynamic over path grids according to the studio type and product type.
I could be naming more assets we are using in our production processes, but Adobe doesn't want to know. That is something not profitable and requires that they listen to big image production teams, wich they don't.

Instead, we have lots of companies editing ising tools for creatives and not for big image production processes.

Lucky are the guys from the video and press markets. They are somany that Adobe has already waken up years ago (profitable) and nowadays we have lots of assets to deliver faster and faster broadcasting, videos and PDFs and e-books.

The image mass production is not so. 

In my team I have my retouchers croping in photoshop using only 1 single click in some cases and 2 in others. And the crop script tool is using the Free Transform tool enabling automatic immediate re-cropping it if the retoucher miss or distorts an angle or skews.
The overlay grids over crops are design by us for our needs (we do not need Golden Ratio or Rule of Thirds,...).

Finally, what I mean is that companies like mine need to have developers specialized on photoshop scripts because Adobe doesn't deliver what they need.

Sorry I can't tell more about us, but that is possible to do in photoshop.
I do  not now if still will be in the next updates. And that's a big problem.
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Don't listen Adobe.

We don't need productivity or workflow enhancements.

God forbid that we could work more efficiently or effectively.

What we want are more plugins like picture frames, fire and trees.

*sigh*

And you wonder why anyone who can is moving to Sketch?
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What we want are more plugins like picture frames, fire and trees.

+1

REQUESTS / IDEAS:
Please finally add an automated "BFF" stickers or filters for sharing selfies! Would love to get these posted on Behance INSTANTLY. Also, maybe a constant "Local Weather" ticker and you could make it so that we can't turn it off, ever. (fingers crossed on this one!!!)

That "maintain Free Transform blah, blah, blah", thing everyone wants, whatevs, who cares. Just focus on releasing new, not really finished, not really tested, not really likely to be used by anyone type features, please.

PRAISE:
Love when you rework standard Tool functions and operations after an update. We typically give everyone a full day off from projects to do some relearning, which we all love! A little "Adobe mandated brian exercise" we like to say!
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Also a graphic artist. PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS.

I virtually never have to distort images in the context of my job. I virtually always have to maintain aspect ratio. I work with photographs of humans and animals for portraits. I easily waste minutes of my day, every day, every month, every year, checking this box.
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Transformation in Photoshop is a bit of a joke:
  • as mentioned in this thread: the transformation settings do not persist. Every. Single. Time. Must. I. Turn. On. Proportional. Scaling.
  • the function is destructive. Having to convert a layer to a Smart Object in order to simply transform it non-destructively is just plain silly and awkward - it breaks the workflow.
  • it forgets about the location of the point of reference. I change the point of reference, apply a bit of rotation. I decide to rotate a bit more, but the point of reference is reset. Sigh.
  • every single time the transformation must be confirmed before switching tools. Again a workflow breaker.
  • multiple selected layers cannot be transformed individually.
I am beginning to wonder why alternatives (PhotoLine, Affinity Photo) do provide such basic functionality, and Photoshop users are left in the cold after 15 years of asking for these simple options.
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You're all such Debbie Downers, don't you appreciate that Adobe's been busy bringing you fresh things like the New Document dialogue which is slower than the original one so you can enjoy your Photoshop experience that bit more?
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That is tremendously and appropriately and sadly - funny. And the perfect close to this long thread. Oh - did I mention InDesign's many many years' total lack of HSB color editing? The very core of any designer's creation & use of color, in what otherwise is one of the most powerful tools for design out there? Nah, that would be off-topic. (and I love InDesign, and Photoshop - floppy discs since 1.0 and no layers until 2.5)
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop: Turn "Maintain Aspect Ratio" Into A Toggle On/Off Button.

Turn "Maintain Aspect Ratio" into a toggle On/Off button because most of the work done with transforming is keeping the same aspect ratio.

Having to press the button for each individual image resize or having to use the shift hold hotkey is inefficient. It would probably take less than an hour to code, and I am sure plenty of people will enjoy the quality of life upgrade.

It would seem like with the amount of resizing people do, this would be a "no-brainer", but apparently I am mistaken.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Photoshop - maintain aspect ratio as default please.

Page described the issue perfectly - 5 years ago:
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Page D Oct 3, 2012 8:11 AMIn Photoshop CS6, if using Free Transform to change the size of a newly-made selection, you have to click 'Maintain Aspect Ratio' option every time to maintain the aspect ratio. How annoying is that! Why isn't this 'Maintain Aspect Ratio' option selected by default? Certainly in my case, there are vastly more occasions when I want to maintain the aspect ratio, and so, in my case at least, it would be much more user-friendly to have 'Maintain Aspect Ratio' selected, by default. Or, alternatively, why isn't there an option in Preferences to either have 'Maintain Aspect Ratio' automatically selected, or unselected, by default, leaving the user to toggle from this starting position, if they want? I know you can hold 'Shift' while resizing, but for the vast majority of the time, I would like to maintain aspect ratio and it would be helpful to have either this option selected by default, or have control in Preferences for the default setting.
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Adobe has the wrong philosophy, not any more customer-oriented... So many old bugs or missing improvements, they could put a programmer to solve all this within 6 months. I get from several forums frustrated feedbacks. I don't see any sense in spending much time on posting new ideas...
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You said exactly the same concept I would love Adobe followed, that I mentioned in other words on this and other forum. All bugs in first instance before releasing new Photoshop (even if that had to take 2 - 3 years), and only then new implementations, while if new bug found then taken care of before anything else again!
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Official Response
Hi Everyone,

Thank you for contributing to this discussion. Proportional transform is now the default behavior on Photoshop 20.0 with all but vector graphics. Photoshop 20.0 is available for download today. Please open the Creative Cloud app, download the update and let us know how it goes for you. If you do not see the update immediately, sign in and sign out of the Creative Cloud.

Thank you,
Hannah
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Now in  Transform holding option constrains the aspect ratio, Who the heck decided to change this convention?? It's nuts and against everything we've learned. PLEASE REVERT to SHIFT constrains. PLEASE!!!!!!
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It's been a few months now that this feature is implemented but I can not get used to this new mode by default. My brain has been conditioned for years to use the shift key, this is so frustrating.
Plus, you still have to use shift to transform vector shapes proportionally and not for the rest, that is so inconsistant... Please offer a setting to revert back to previous behaviour.
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Nicolas

With the 20.0.5 update, there is now a user facing preference under Preferences > General... and check "Use Legacy Free Transform"


https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/fixed-issues.html
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Still using 20.0.4
It's time for an upgrade ... :-)
Thanks @Rosa
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You're very welcome :)
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Please remove this as the *Default* behavior.
For years, every single user has muscle memory ingrained of using shift for maintaining aspect ratio. If you are going to change that, at least allow for an option to revert it as now it is very frustrating.

Also Please be CONSISTENT:
- If you scale an image, the default behavior is to maintain dimensions (shift to free transform)
If you scale a shape, the default behavior is free transform (shift to maintain dimensions)

How does that make sense? How is that useable and not confusing?
Every. Single. Other. Adobe program uses the old schema of default being to free transform and using shift to maintain dimensions. Why is Photoshop any different?

Please add a way to turn this off!
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You may also read posts from last few days to get answer even more than once ;)
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It looks like engineers working for Adobe don't test and compare anything, just follow directives without arguing, or maybe each time there are changes Adobe hires new programmers team that can do things as continuation of that someone made originaly. Something is bad-thought as in company I work for such oversights are unacceptable.
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At the very least, the workaround text file trick works out well and I can get my work done without having to deal with this big step backwards.

For others that come into this thread, here is the text content of that image so you can copy and paste what has worked for me. Hopefully the formatting will not mess up the text.

TransformProportionalScale 0

PSUserConfig.txt
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for SEO purposes - Here is the fix for photoshop scale proportional ratio bug
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ABSOLUTELY Patrick.
Please listen ADOBE!
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Ugh, I hate this new behavior.  It doesn't seem to be working correctly for me.  Whether that chain icon is clicked or not, it maintains the aspect ratio.  It used to work, with the old Photoshop.  And even if it did work correctly, what a pain.  Make it sticky, please.  
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I use that chain only when I manually enter a value, then scroll with mouse to increase it. So I'd like it was remembered or chosen as option, but not always pressed that each time you transfrom it is already on. It was sufficient to just do what Rocky Bomgaars asked 7 years ago! Really weird they let us wait so long, and when finally it's incorporated it does not work the way 'we' requested it :(
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Yes! Make it sticky at least or put an option to select preferred default behavior in the preferences. The way it works now is really stupid and unhelpful. It doesn't make any sense to change a basic feature like this that's been the same for 15 years because brand new users think it should work the way they want it to.
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Bug. Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar does not work in cc 2019.
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 Need to look at this bug also with the constrain link -

When you un-check the Maintain aspect ratio constrain link on the toolbar and then use transform it still maintains aspect ratio. . . un-checking the link should disable maintain aspect ratio shouldn't it? Well it doesn't.

Also shift key + transform disables Maintain aspect ratio but doesn't correspond with the constrain link on the tool bar. 

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/constrained-resize-ps-cc-20?topic-reply-list%...

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Meanwhile it must be oviously, that it is buggy and inconsistent. And I can not imagine, that Adobe isn't already trying to fix this. Or am I wrong??
It would be just great – if not better to say – "intelligent", if they would ask betatesters from this forum for opinion and check. It seems there is no developer with vast overview, maybe they always have a special field in comparison to experienced users... at least it's my explanation to this. And I am still working with CC 2018...
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the new behavior is not consistent!!!! you still need to hold shift for creating shapes, - also holding alt to expand outwards equally is now broken.  is there a way to turn off this new behavior? 
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There's solution in previous posts of this theard that should work for you if you want to keep v20.
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That already started with CC 2018, now it's just worse continuation of lame releases.
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How do you uninstall CC2019 and revert to CC 2018?
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Kukurykus

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Use Adobe Creative Cloud application. There you can (un)instal certain version.
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It's really not very obvious. On the right across from your version of CC2019 in the Creative Cloud app's Apps section, click on the disclosure triangle next to Open (or Update), and choose manage. You don't need to uninstall 2019 to install 2018 (though you can if you like). But that's where you can both choose to uninstall AND choose Other Versions, where you can reinstall 2018.
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W the actual F, Adobe? I updated my CC like a good little boy and now I have this cracked-out scaling nonsense?

You mentioned the Undo changes on startup but not this? I don't even have words, I'm so pissed off about this right now, especially since I'm in the middle of a crazy last-minute deadline (communications designer, news fell into our lap this morning).
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Jeff, just a heads-up that transform/distort now requires the shift key to properly distort. I imagine that for 99% of the users, contrstrain distort is not what's wanted when invoking distort.
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holy cow -- its even worse than I thought.  Sometimes I like to stretch part of an image using the rectangular marquee tool when the image is just a TAD soo small - so Ill stretch it to the left, or up, or something like that.  one direction.   IT TRIES TO MAINTAIN ASPECT RATIO EVEN WHEN IM TRYING TO JUST STRETCH IN ONE DIRECTION!!!!!!!!

im reverting.  this is crazy. 
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it just doesn't make any sense - the only place this should have been a default behavior - is when you grab a CORNER.  If i grab a side transform point... why would I want the other sides to scale too! 
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yeah, it's kind of a big, giant trainwreck.
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I agree! Wait until you try transform/distort. . . that's my worst nightmare!
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Ok, is it not done just holding the shift key?
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I'd like to answer to you, but I just uninstalled Ps 19. I heard though there's some new logic in that.
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Marking this as "Implemented" is an insult. What was implemented was nothing like the above request, but a slipshod afterthought that nobody asked for. A muscle-memory challenging, workflow-interrupting, inconsistent and clumsy UX disaster. 

And give us more room to rotate without accidentally committing!
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This is seriously screwed up.  I think there's a memory issue.  After using Photoshop for awhile, free transform no longer works, even if you unclick the chain icon.  It works for awhile if I restart Photoshop, but eventually stops working.  I have 64 Gb of RAM and never had a problem with the older version of Photoshop.  

This version is pretty much unusable for me, unless I want to keep restarting Photoshop, which is a pain if I have several images open at once.
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Stupid move sorry, on so many levels.
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Come on Adobe! Do you actually have UX designers and QA? Because is just unacceptable...
People are used to the old behavior and the new one is just completely broken. The toggle "lock" button doesn't even work! The behavior is very inconsistent across Adobe products and even in Photoshop itself. Revert this and go back to the drawing board, if you think this is actually an issue. I'm sure there are better solutions.
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this new update is driving me absolutely insane. 10min to figure out how to figure out how to revert to the old undo system, draw for 2 min, 15min to google why my brush is lagging, turn off ruler and draw for 5 min, 30min trying to figure out what the hell happened to the transform function. How many more more surprises are gonna trip me up? I've never had to actually look at the updated features to preform basic functions in PS. I do NOT want to have to relearn the program every time you decide to roll out an update. :/ I'm trying to get things done and it's set me back at least an hour by this point. I am so close to reverting back to the 2018 version, I don't want to learn new habits only for you to change the settings again. 
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Smart-Objects have OTHER transformation keys than normal layers.
I apparently cannot reproduce that, please elaborate. 

How stupid, lazy and ignorant is that???????
How impolite is your choice of words? 
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Ok! step-by-step to reproduce:
1. Create an object and transform it (CTRL+T on windows). It's by default with maintained aspect ratio
2. Create a smart object and transform it. It's by default without maintained aspect ratio.
It means it's inconsistent and impossible to come in a "blind" intuitive workflow.

Why I'm really excited about this:
I have read this here in this thread right in the beginning as a new inconsistency bug and was desperately waiting a half year, because this is not ok for my workflow, where I switch quickly under timepressure between smart objects and pixel layers.
Ok, this can happen. But now nothing is repaired.
And that seems ignorant or lazy to me, sorry.
So much effort was put from users, me too, into collecting ideas, to make a product better and then it stays even worse. And there is really not "intelligent logic" behind this inconsistent tool.

(And I did not try, but I read from users also other objects... just to mention that there could be other transformation things needed to be checked, which are not in my personal workflow)




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1. Create an object and transform it (CTRL+T on windows). It's by default with maintained aspect ratio
2. Create a smart object and transform it. It's by default without maintained aspect ratio.
That is not the case on my computer (Adobe Photoshop Version: 20.0.4, Mac OS 10.12.6), both transformations behave the same namely proportionally by default. 
Shape Layers behave differently because they are Path-based, though. 

What have you done for trouble-shooting so far? 
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Ah ok, then it is maybe a Windows10-Photoshop bug?
Maybe any other Windows Photoshop user here, who could tell, if that works with smart objects in the same way like with pixel layers or not?

I wouldn't know, what I can do for troubleshooting. From the reports I'm quite sure, it has to do with Photoshop.

(I'm working on Mac and PC and at the moment only had installed it on the Windows workstation. I will test it soon on Mac, too. )
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When faced with inexplicable Photoshop-behaviour Restoring Preferences after making sure all customized presets like Actions, Patterns, Brushes etc. have been saved is pretty much the basic starting point:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/basic-trouble-shooting-steps.html

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The solution to the problem could be quite straight forward, I think:

First use the behaviour like it was until PS CC 2018.
 

Then just leave the chain-button sticky. Means, if clicked once it will also be active if one is using the transform tool (command or ctrl + T) later again.

So people who prefer the old way of pressing (shift-key) to scale objects proportional in both dimensions will have this button 'unclicked'.

All others who prefer always having scaled objects without distortions always have this chain-button 'clicked' and so don’t need to press any qualifier key (unless they want to distort deliberately).

And the icing of the cake would be a preferences setting to tell if you want to reset the 'chain-button' every time you make a transformation, or have it sticky all the time (leaving the 'chain-button' in its last user selected state.

This should make all people happy (hope I haven’t overlooked anything).

Summary:

– Make the 'chain-button' sticky (keep user selected state) (if never clicked state would be turned off like it was in Photoshop all the years, so to scale proportionally 'shift-key' must be pressed.

– Make a Preferences Setting for having the 'chain-button' always sticky or reset after every use (behaviour as it was before and is right now).
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This is all we ever asked for!

I have no idea why Adobe felt the need to completely overcomplicate the whole thing.

What's been done instead was clearly not thought through properly or user-tested effectively. Little wonder people have moved on to using other tools.

Rob
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Yep, that’s what was suggested months ago by many people. This is so stupid it’s embarrassing.
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Slightly better idea, I think:

Have the 'chain'-button fully decoupled from the mouse-driven interactive transformation and just add a Preferences Setting:


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[X] Transform Selections/Objects/Forms/Paths proportionally
by holding 'Shift' as qualifier key (constrain proportions)

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If the checkbox is 'unchecked' all things scale proportionally without holding the 'Shift'-key.

The key is consistency here!


That would make it so, that when you start the transform-action by mouse (visually) then you won’t even have to look at the top menubar if the 'chain'-button is clicked or unclicked – just use your muscle memory as you ever have.

And whenever you use numerical transformation the 'chain'-button stays in its last selected state, independent of the mouse-driven transformation preferences setting.

The 'chain'-button state then would have no influence on the mouse-driven transform operation and vice versa.
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The problem is that this item was marked as implemented when it never was. Hannah Nicollet (Quality Engineer) and Adobe failed to understand the problem, left it a mess and moved on.
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Maybe somebody opens a new thread? If this is marked as "implemented", nobody will care.

I have the problem especially with smart objects and can't understand why it wasn't possible to just only make a button "sticky". (and shift toggles that temporary). Important would be the consistency. The simplest solutions need no learning and are often the best.
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nobody will care. 
At least the Adobe employee/s who have posted here like Hannah Nicollet should be kept abreast of the newly posted messages. 
And I am fairly sure that, even if they should not be able to post an official response, they understand that there are dissatisfied customers yet. 
But whether they will be able to do anything about it does not depend on whether they see the merit in the requests/complaints alone ... 
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You are right, discard my previous idea of decoupling the button from the interactive behaviour of the scaling/rotation tool (after closer examination :-).

Just make that 'chain'-button sticky is all that’s needed for tackling this problem.

And to momentarily override that state just press Shift (to alternate the currently active state).

Maybe it could implemented that the 'chain'-button is somehow highlighted when holding down the shift key, so it’s clearly visible what holding that key does in the currently selected transformation-tool.

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The second annoyance which should be tackled is the 'auto-commit' of the tool when once clicks outside a hidden circle of the scaled/rotated object.

Before that you had to press 'Return' to finalize the operation.

As the 'auto-commit' can surely speed-up the workflow it still needs some kind of visible drawn circle or circular area, to tell the user at which point the tool changes it’s operation from chaning scaling/rotation to commiting the operation.

Or at least make it clearly visible by changing the cursor/pointer icon graphic.
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This change is so fundamental that if it needs changing, it needs changing everywhere. That means company-wide buy-in. 

Until that internal debate is complete, changing it in a fraction of the places it needs changing is half-baked, unprofessional and unacceptable.

Why Adobe doesn't understand this and rectify the situation is beyond many of us who are design professionals - consistency is literally design 101.