Photoshop: Multiple and reorder/sort effects/styles

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I would love to be able to have 2 different drop shadows, inner shadows, gradients etc in a single layer. Very often I have to dupe the layer, put 0 fill and apply extra styles that way. It's inconvenient and messy, especially when trying to apply the same effect onto other layers.

Also, it would be great if I were able to sort the effects. Meaning, I could put drop shadow above or below inner shadow, stroke above the inner shadow and bevel, etc.
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Allowing layer effects to be rearranged and having multiple instances can reduce complexity and layer duplication.

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Photoshop: Ability to have layer effects multiplying and stacking like Illustrator.
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I'd like this, too. I imagine it'd open up quite a few code and UI challenges. Plus, there'd be lots of Layer Style orders that wouldn't make sense or look good... but I'd still like a way to have multiples.

More powerful layer styles would mean using less layers and faster editing.
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It would be easier than you might think: all Photoshop needs to do is create layers behind the scenes that stack effects in the order and quantity that we want them. Users of older Photoshop versions would open the file and see a bunch of layers with similar names, but to users of the new Photoshop it would just look like one layer. This would require absolutely no changes to the way Photoshop stores information, it would simply be a UI change.
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Idea: I want freedom from the confines of the style options dialogue box!

Right now, when you double click a random layer, you get to change styles like 'Drop Shadow', 'Outer Glow', etc...

You should allow us to drag and drop these styles in different order. And changing the order of these style 'layers' acts like changing the order of your projects 'layers'. Your Drop Shadow can visually be underneath or above the Outer Glow. Also, allow us to duplicate these 'layers', like the Drop Shadow, to make more changes that are visually interesting. Or add as many Strokes as you want. Or delete layers...

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Photoshop: Style Freedom!.
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It would be great if layer style effects could be duplicated and rearranged. It would give everybody huge flexibility. Pleeeeease))

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Photoshop: Ability to duplicate and rearrangement of effects in layer styles.
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This is a feature request to revamp the way layer effects are stacked.


Currently, layer effects can only be stacked in a specific order, and there can only be one instance of each effect. To get around this, we designers have to create duplicates of layers--sometimes dozens of duplicates--in order to apply the layer effects in the order and quantity that we desire. Illustrator does effect stacking the way it should be done. We need the same thing in Photoshop.


I'm a UI Designer. I and others like me use layer effects extensively to create awesome visual elements in our interface designs. But managing hundreds of layers becomes massively time consuming, especially when a change to one layer means we have to change all the copies of that layer. If we could stack effects instead of layers, we could drastically reduce the amount of busywork we have to do.


It would also be great if we could change the default values of layer effects (global lighting, anyone?), but that's another topic.


There is no reason this couldn't be backward-compatible; If "maximize compatibility" is turned on, Photoshop could simply do the same thing that we do today (duplicating layers), but it would do so invisibly and we would only work with a single "master" layer (which to the user is indistinguishable from a regular layer). Then, in older versions of Photoshop, all those effect layers would still be visible and editable.

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Photoshop: change order of Layer Styles, and use multiple effects per layer.
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In Photoshop, it would be a great help to be able to re-order the layer styles... It's inconvenient to create new layers just because inner glows block out edge patterns, for example.

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Photoshop: Reorder Layer Styles.
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It'd be great if you could re-order layer styles.

For instance say I had a square with a 10px stroke and drop shadow applied to it and I wanted the drop shadow to be over the stoke effect. We should be able to move styles up or down.

Make sense?

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Allow different layer styles to be re-ordered.
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I would love the ability to stack/rearrange layer styles. As others have mentioned, I run into situations all the time where I would like to use a drop shadow more than once, in different directions, and I end up having to duplicate the layer just to achieve the desired effect.

People on dribbble have expressed desire for this feature as well: http://dribbble.com/shots/301992-Stac...

It could be as simple as right clicking "Drop shadow" in the layer styles window, having an option that says "duplicate style", and then showing an item in list of styles called "Drop shadow 2". Or there could be a + button somewhere in the window that lets you add more of any type of style to this particular layer.
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This would make my life SO much easier. Particularly moving other effects on top of a stroke and multiple drop shadows. I've actually had to use over 10 duplicates of a shape layer in the past to get a desired style before. Every UI design I do ends up having duplicate layers for something because of this.
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I think everyone has explained this pretty well. I would love multiple layer styles and an adjustable stack order would be fantastic.

I wonder how the existing stack orders were determined?
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Sometimes it sure would be handy if we could just put color overlay in front of gradient overlay (..and such), wouldn't it? :)

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Changing the order of effects in blending options..
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I'm posting to add support to this much needed feature request.
Not to bash Photoshop (because it's awesome) but I feel like photoshop is looked at by Adobe primarily as a photo editing/retouching tool, and then a UI design tool second.
Overlooking this 'Multiple layer Effect' request is evidence of this.

Html+Css allows elements to have multiple drop shadows, rgba semi transparent borders etc, and allows us to stack them in any order. We need our deign tool to be able to do the same, and it doesn't.

even stacking layers on top of each other, stacking the effects, has slight pixel multiplies and edge imperfections that doesn't 100% work.

Please Photoshop: a lot of us are using your app to design UI. Please add this feature.
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I would like to be able to changed the stacking order of layer effects in the effects panel with drag and drop. For example, if I have a thick stroke applied to text, 10 pixels for example, if I choose to also use an outer glow I want the outer glow to appear on top of the stroke.

This doesn't seem to be something I've seen requested before which leads me to think there is a simply way to do it.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Layer Effects Stacking Order.
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THIS Feature would really rock! Totally agree on that - often having trouble with duplicates of layers.
This would make my life soo much easier and make my work with photoshop so much more convenient.

I'm soo happy seeing others requesting the features I dream of :-)
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It would be great to be able to add more than one specific layer style to one layer. Consider I want 5px red inner stroke and 10px black outer stroke with 50% opacity at the same time. Also, I would like to be able to move the layer styles up and down so that my "gradient overlay" layer style with 50% opacity can be over my "color overlay" layer style. Now I have to duplicate the layer in order to achieve this and I guess it is an unnecessary effort.

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multiple layer styles.
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Yes! I was thinking about this feature too couple of weeks ago and I'm glad I'm not the only one needing it.
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Jeez this site is a hassle. I just wanted to hit +1. It made me log in with my Adobe ID, which failed like, 5 times in a row (ajax issues, stuck, not my connection, something on your side) and then had me go to my email to verify myself - and it ended up sending me two emails.

Really, just to press +1?

Anyway, I wholeheartedly endorse the idea of re-arrangeable layer styles. It's something that would make life lots easier.

Especially when combined with "linked layer styles", so that we can edit something once, and it'll change everywhere. But that's a different topic, I guess.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
I'd like to be able to change the order of my Layer Styles..
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Exactly what I was thinking!
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That's how to do it! how can we get this in front of Adobe. Nice work. I'd also like to be able to add another, and another, and another of each Effect, so for example I would end up with 2 or 3 stroke layers on top of each other. Roy do you feel like UI designing this for us too? :)
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I think it should be the exact same principle as in the layers panel. Two buttons below this list one for adding new effects (dropdown) and one for deleting selected effects.
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@Stuart OB & Björn Pehrsson: Something like this?

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Now that is what Adobe need to do! Nice one Roy. I hope they get to see this. Perfect
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+1 Perfect. Needed.
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Exactly! Now, let's get promote this feature to the world! :)
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I like being able to stack multiple strokes and fills into a single Illustrator object.

Being able to do something similar in a PSD layer would be a great help.

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Multiple PSD layer styles.
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@Adobe: what do you think?

Any news regarding this request?
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Guys, I described this concept here
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

There's a lot more, but it's maybe most important.
And I will be greateful if you'll support my list
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Since layer groups can now have styles, it gives an workaround to change their order.
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Keeping the initial request legit.

I wonder where the technical difficulties with this request are. Obviously Adobe would have already added support if it was easy.

Supposedly some old spaghetti code relict, no dev wants to touch ;-) I mean (besides this fabulous group feature), there were no big visible changes in effects system itself for a long time.

@Adobe: what do you say?

Cheers
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I think that the issue would be compatibility with the other applications, and legacy applications...
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That would have been my next shot but considering Adobe's uncompromising policy on InDesign updates I hope it's not about compatibility. I mean It Should be downwards compatible, right?
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Plus the problem of getting consistent compositing among all the possible effects (they have a certain order for a reason).
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@Chris Cox: Thank you for caring. I love Adobe taking care of their customers.

Well, this is exactly what we want to have control over.
What about adding some pattern overlay on top of color overlay? Or what about adding some color overlay on top of inner stroke? The list of combinations seems endless :-)
Name some side-effects.. Presently I cannot think about any harmful combination.
We'd so much love if the feature was at least taken under consideration!

Cheers
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side effects: ugly artifacts, things not drawing correctly, gaps in drawing where you don't expect them, etc.
Again, the effects are in a particular order for a reason. It would take quite a bit of work to make them reorderable.

We've heard the request, but it's more work than you might imagine.
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Humm, I understand. Would love to see it in future though.
Would be big help for lots of screendesigners out there, I think.

For the moment this doesn't matter so much due to simple workaround possibilities :-)

Thanks
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We could also be making better use of this clever piece of software http://csshat.com that will convert the PS effects layers to CSS code. It's too new for me to say that it is a frequent part of my PSD to HTML workflow yet, but I can def see the potential.