Photoshop: fade (blend modes/opacity) built in the filters' interface.

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Most of the times, when one uses filters, or performs a change in the image, the next step is to fade the change to use a different blending mode, or lower the opacity of the filter/adjustment.

Sometimes, one realizes that the effect should be tweaked, because the blending mode change made the effect less powerful.

If there was a blending mode selector and an opacity slider built in the filter/adjustment, one could simply change the mode/opacity alongside the other settings, and refine changes, rather than coming back in history to do so.It could be a HUGE time saver, boosts discoverability of the creative possibilities of fade, and if applied "after" the filter, should not break existing actions.
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»Most of the times, when one uses filters, or performs a change in the image, the next step is to fade the change to use a different blending mode, or lower the opacity of the filter/adjustment.«
Quite frankly I don’t concur, as in a non-dectructively oriented work-style using Fade seems fairly seldom necessary.
The Smart Filter Blending Options and the Adjustment Layers’ Layer properties seem sufficient to me.
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Dang, on second thought I have to say the idea for Filters does have more merit than I had recognized originally.
Integrating it with the interfaces of the Filters of various ages might be a challenge, though.
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Yes, I should maybe not have mentioned Fade, but I guess that you see my point...
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Since many filters are plugins, and many of those are by third parties.... yeah, kind of difficult. Oh, and they have to work on channels as well as layers.
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I meant for first-party ones... many third party filters do provide that option... And I never said it was easy, I know that most changes suggested are more intricate than what is stated... Your answer was from an engineering point of view... what about the photographer one, Chris?
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From an end user standpoint: most people do not use Fade or blend modes with filters. So this might just add UI noise that most users would not see an immediate benefit from.

From an engineering standpoint: filters, fade, and layer blending are orthogonal
tools. I'd prefer to see them stay that way instead of mixing and complicating them.

I'm not saying no, but the suggestion isn't as straightforward as it may seem on the surface.
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I will play the devil's advocate: end users are maybe not using Fade/blend modes because it is not easily discoverable... Thanks for your frank explanations, as always, Chris!
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Re-visting this thread, I still feel that, even with the smart filters, one needs to jump back and forth between the smart filter settings and the blending options.

It takes a while to find the perfect combination between the perfect settings for the filter, and the blending mode that would show them the best way.

I liked that in some third party filters, one could set/change both mode and opacity while tweaking the actual filter settings, in the same interface, and it allowed more creativity and discovery.
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>Re-visting this thread, I still feel that, even with the smart filters, one needs to jump back and forth between the smart filter settings and the blending options.>

I agree with upgrading PS's filters, even when we have Smart Filters. Many popular 3rd party filters/plug-ins offer opacity and blend modes now, and I think it's a subject that's been well-taught all over the internet.

So maybe a good update to Filters would be to put the opacity(Fade) and Blend mode right in the PS filters themselves.  While they're upgrading them all to 16 bit.<G>
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I don't care about fading filters but other tools might benefit from an auto-fade command. Especially ones like the Healing Brush which, unlike the Clone Stamp, doesn't have opacity controls.

The effect would be the same as, if after every brush stroke, you applied a fade.
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That could be helpful if you work on (or have to work on) image layers. I try always to work on an empty layer above so I keep my options open, but that's not always the best technique. And doesn't help with the Patch tool in Normal mode.