Photoshop: Vector Shapes & path highlight/selection issue

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Hi there,

Photoshop CS5

1.Vector shape have color area and vector mask visible - http://screencast.com/t/hVB2H7ceqp
2. Selecting the later do not affect the visibility of the actual shape - http://screencast.com/t/YkmJlsLRNX
3. Selecting the vector mask gives us the visual representation that mask is selected - http://screencast.com/t/Iq4P9Qgp9

Photoshop CS6 beta

1. Vector shape have a single icon - http://screencast.com/t/ptBpMRYup
2. When select the layer the vector mask is automatic selected too - http://screencast.com/t/dm1WjibiTZ
This is frustrating because it is hard to set layer styles properly, the additional "stroke" that comes from the selected layer mask visuals mess the things up.

Please can you find a way to select vector shapes without selecting the actual vector mask too, this was perfectly developed in Photoshop CS5.

Thanks!

Regards,
SK
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Tony Gines

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I have this same issue. Really not a good change.
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Jared Pervis

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Same issue here. Not understanding the decision here. If there's a way to do it it's completely lost on me.
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nhm hdz

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Another detail about this, is that the single icon does not allow you to copy the vector mask to another layer.
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Tony Gines

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Apparently, if you hold cmd+opt and drag the thumbnail onto another layer, it will do it.
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nhm hdz

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Thanks! it works! but still the unified icon is not a good change
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a k

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This is a major inconvenience
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The solution is to hide in Extras the "Target Path" Shift+Cmd+H (on Mac). We can make noise for a better solution in the Photoshop CS6 Forum:

http://forums.adobe.com/community/lab...

:)
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Hey Ivan,

I found that solution too : http://screencast.com/t/CSKcTX3n, but after you select the actual vector path and points, it turns on automatically, which is frustrating again. Overall no good solution for now!:)

Will post this topic here: http://forums.adobe.com/community/lab...

Regards,
SK
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Another way!!! Hitting ENTER or RETURN
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Frick Tobias

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When I am applying layer styles to shape layers, I do not want to see the shape layer handlers as they hide and distract the fine details that I am applying.
Maybe I just didn't find how to do this yet...? Did not have this problem in CS5, there I would just click on the shape layer mask and the handlers would disappear again.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Photoshop: Allow to hide the Shape Layer Handlers when needed.
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Yes, Ivan is just a troll, not a designer.
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@Brandon I'm not a troll... We asked Adobe for a solution and they said us to hit enter. In that moment I thought I could get used to working this way; but when you need to move the vector and apply an effect it's impossible. Really frustrating.
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Ivan was not trolling, he is correct hitting enter will hide and unhide the control points for your vector layers. This isn't a new feature and or issue either it's been like this a long time. The only annoying part for me that i wish they would change is having a memory of what shapes and points you last had selected. After hiding the control points to see your layer styles or how thing line up when you hit enter again to bring back up the control points nothing is selected anymore and i have to go back in and re-select all my CP's again. It would be more helpful that when i bring the CP's back up to have what i had selected already selected again.
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You're right, he's not a troll. And neither are you. A more accurate way to describe you both is to say that you're both willing to comment too quickly, without trying to see what the real issue is that all of the people on this thread are complaining about. The problem is that once we toggle the path off, it should STAY OFF. I'd list all the reasons for that, but they're all on this thread for you to read.
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I did and i have commented on that as well. I was just saying that he was correct that using the enter key will hide that layer and that he wasn't trying to troll. As i have stated all over use cmd+shift+H or cmd+shift+H for the solution you need. It shouldn't be resetting unless you hide and unhide a layer.

I understand the reasons for wanting this and I agree but there is already a solution.
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Same issue here, the way CS5 handled vector layers was so much better.
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darwyn gigi

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I really hope that this is a bug and that they'll fix it in the final version
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Apparently they did this on purpose. We are discussing here as well:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4294219
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darwyn gigi

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So there's a chance that they might not fix it.

Thanks, Tony
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Andrey Grabelnikov

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How can I convert vector mask to raster mask now?
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I have a QE on the Photoshop team looking into this.
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Dave Jennings

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Could you give them a nudge to look a bit harder & quicker Jeffrey? It seems they're going too slow for the rest of us.
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Hi, I'm using new PS CS6. The line is interferes when you wanna add effects. I think it's distracting. There's no stroke, but the line appears when using "Blending Options". So, anybody likes it? -_-


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Outline on shape.
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Like they mentioned above and I added to it you can just hit enter. Just to be clear make sure to hit enter before opening the FX panel or all it will do is close out the FX panel.

1) Hit Enter
2)Add FX

simple
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I've seen the team's explanation for vector shape target paths being highlighted by default. I'm sorry, but all that demonstrates is that the team doesn't use the app as intensely as us daily designers.

I try to do as much as I can with vectors and raster elements clipped above them, so that I have flexibility in my designs. Therefore, almost every element of my designs contains some kind of vector shape. Thanks to this new change in functionality, I now have THREE additional steps to take every time I touch a vector layer: 1) switch to the Direct Selection tool (press A), 2) press ENTER, then 3) hit V to get my Move Tool back again. If I click off the layer and back again, I have to do all this crap AGAIN. You guys need to stop trying to out-think the users on this one.

If you want to cling to your "logic", at least pacify me (and all the rest of your users) by allowing us to toggle this function in preferences. I just don't see what's wrong with the reverse, which is to press A then ENTER when I want to see the path. Or even better, just show the path ONLY when the Direct Selection tool is enabled. Since I can't edit a vector path using the Move Tool, why do I need to see it?

Please give us a solution for this. I haven't seen anyone who is thankful for the change.

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Vector Path Highlighted by Default is WRONG.
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I agree, well said to both of you.
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I certainly agree that when using the move tool the vector controls should not appear, that is pointless.

However when you say they need to quit trying to out think us just try to remember that they just completely rebuilt the shape tool. They had to rebuild it ground up to add the function to have a fill and a stroke like how it is in Illustrator. This function alone makes PS shapes way more useful and I don't have to open Illustrator anymore to do some vector work like having an object with a dashed stroke around it. In rebuilding the tool they overlooked some things like the issue you just mentioned and I am sure with enough people asking to only have the vector controls appear when you have vector editing tools selected that they will add this in a future update.
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Also to simplify your problem use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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Sorry about annoying you that's not my intention at all. I went back through the posts again and saw the post from KCKFM about the vector path returning after selection it with the vector tools. Like I said I agree with you guys there but most the other posts people don't have this issue and the ctrl+shift+H shortcut will work perfect for them. I kept posting it because It was only in one small post and people must have overlooked it because there are other posts like the one from Shokhrukh Kenjaev that can be solved with that short cut. So by posting it all over the place hopefully people will see it and that will work for them. Ultimately though you are 100% right that if you do not have a vector tool selected then the vector paths should be off by default. So what I said doesn't apply to you or your issue but hopefully it does help some of the other people out.
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Now that this is acknowledged by adobe hopefully they will change that but maybe like I posted below making a blank layer and selecting that before toggling your other layers on and off will help speed things up for you until Adobe updates this (hopefully very soon). If that doesn't help speed things up in your case then there probably isn't going to be anything else until adobe updates and CS5 might work better for you for now but maybe it well help others out in the meantime.
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I really love the improvements they made, but this is just inconsiderate. I'm not even using CS6 because of this. It's impossible to work with.
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Like above

Also to simplify your problem use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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I have been using photoshop CS6 for only 10 minutes and will already come back to CS5. Why? The new path layer selection. By default now, when selecting a vector layer in your layers window, the path of that layer is automaticly displayed. You have to hit escape or cmd+a and then enter to get rid of it.

As a web and ui designers my designs are 100% vector. And I liked the previous way of picking when selecting a vector layer if I want that vector path to be displayed or not.
This behaviour as been completely removed from CS6 making it an unusable product...

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Photoshop CS6 and the annoying layer path selection.
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As above

Also to simplify your problem use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.

Also if you are using 100% vector why the heck are you using PS instead of Illustrator?
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Is there any update on this? Having just transferred over to CS 6, this is an extreme trouble area in my workflow and as we can see, many others'. There are likely even more people who haven't been able to find this page yet to comment how this is a trouble area in their workflow as well.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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Wrong. It comes back on. Once again, that is why we're all complaining. Hide the layer, then show the layer and there it is again. You don't know what you're talking about. Need me to post a video for you?
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@Brandon

whats with the attitude, your being a jerk and I'm trying to give you the solution. Hiding and unhiding turns it back on yes but most people are not listing that as there big problem but listing that when going from layer to layer it keeps appearing which wont happen with the ctrl+shift+H shortcut it toggles on and off like a switch. Hiding and unhiding still is an issue and I sure eventually that will get worked out too but that won't be nearly as big of an issue for most users. I have read all the postings and unless I missed one I didn't see anyone with the issue that unhiding a layer makes the path reappear, only that they couldn't get the path to go away. Most users I know don't hide and unhide layers enough for this to be such a major issue that CS6 is unusable to them but I agree that it should by default be off for all non vector editing tools and on for vector editing tools.

You must be a real joy to work with. Someone tries to help you with an issue you are having and asking for an answer for and your response is to be a complete jerk to them. Seriously, I just saw people with issues and I was posting to try and help.
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Shut up and go away.
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I think it's going to need more attention. Everyone should forward this page to their designer friends and ask them to weigh in. Make sure they aren't going to repeat the non-solution of temporarily hiding the target path, too.
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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Yes, please revert this to how it was in CS5! I hate having to hide the path single time I select a vector shape. It completely slows me down. I can't think why this would be a great default behavior.
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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I hate what they did with shape outline. You just cant hide shape outline that easy. In previous versions it was easy, just dont select it and thats it.

JUST CHANGE IT BACK AS IT WAS!
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Please don't!!

I finally have a fill and stroke layer!!!!!!!

and as I said above

Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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Please allow this to be turned off. I hate having to double tap ctrl+h every #$%^&*( time i click a vector layer.
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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Come on Adobe, can we have some official announcement or acknowledgement on this problem please? Yes, I think those on here would call it a problem even if its marketed as a "designed in feature change".
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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Could a representative from Adobe please address the timing for this fix? It slows down the workflow a lot, especially when editing layer styles.
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.
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This problem is driving all the designers at my company insane!
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Use ctrl+Shft+H or option+shft+H on mac. That will hide all the control points when not using vector editing tools.
It toggles them on and off and unlike using the enter button it will not revert back if you select another tool or layer and then come back.