Photoshop CC 2014: Problem with new Font Selection Preview Feature

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This is for Photoshop CC 2014 that just came out today I believe (6/18/14) It has a new feature that when selecting type in the Character Panel it will instantly change the font in the PSD file to the one you are hovering over in the font list. However, trying to scroll up and down in that list is impossible. If you keep the mouse still and scroll up using the scroll wheel then slight move the mouse it will jump back down the list to the font already selected. Same when using the scroll bar on the right. It's literally impossible to select another font without moving from one to the next. Its ridiculous.
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Howdy folks,

I'm not seeing this at all in the latest version of PS, running on either Mac or Win. Are you still having this problem?

Thanks,
David
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@David, @Jeffrey — yes the "problem" still exists. We want font change on rollover reverted to explicit select in the UI.

There are many other problems with the font menu in the Character Palette:
• it's not hierarchical
• text in the menu doesn't render correctly
• scrolling is choppy
• most faces display as regular, but some thin faces show up in thin face (weird)
• the typekit filter and add typekit buttons are too prominent in the UI, and just get in the way



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Hi Carl,

I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you write "We want font change on rollover reverted to explicit select in the UI."  Could you clarify?

This font menu now includes ALL font on your machine.  You may zip through them in a more hierarchical fashion using the SHIFT and ARROW keys.

The rendering and performance issues are likely an issue with your video card.  You might want to make sure the drivers are up-to-date.  Also, what GPU are you running?  Again, are you running Windows or Mac?  Which version?

Thanks,
David
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Hi George,

Are you having the same problem as Carl?  Are you able to scroll through the list using the ARROW keys?  Using the mouse?

Thanks,
David
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I don't use arrow keys for fonts. I just tried it and in my opinion it's a time waster. I use my mouse or pen. What ever happened to hierarchical font menus? Why the change?
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The change was done to enhance user workflow.  Many different kinds of customers use Photoshop and this allows designers to quickly zoom through their font options.  If you want to step through so that you look at font families, hold down the SHIFT key when using the ARROW keys.
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HAHAHAH! Enhance? Quickly zoom through? Have you used it!?
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It's not an enhancement by any means. I know exactly which font I want, and am not interested in hundreds of previews on the way there - besides which it doesn't scroll down very far before it fizzles out. Went back to CS6 version.
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the font menu change is one of the worst things ever done to Photoshop. Is Adobe making the font menus now for beginners? Let them use Elements. I am enraged at the font menu change. I've been using Photoshop since version 1. I was a beta tester for version 2.5 (aka Merlin). Who in the f--k thinks this is good?
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What precisely are you objecting to?  The font menu in the command menu?  The additional support for font-related features?  Up-leveling the user interface of these features?  Quick-previews of fonts?
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@David Sorry my previous answer was less than clear. The font menu in the Character Palette should not preview text in the document window on rollover. The menu provides the option to show a preview of the face in the menu... The text in the document window should only change when I select a face in the menu with an explicit click.

All Apple menus show a highlight on a menu item in focus, but it isn't *selected* until I click on it. This allows me to quickly pinpoint my item without experiencing any UI lag, having to look at both the menu selection and the document window at the same time, and is a well-established UI interaction pattern.

I would suggest that the SHIFT + ARROW key behavior be the combination used to preview text in different font faces when selected in the Character Palette menu, rather than the other way around.

By the way, SHIFT + ARROW key doesn't do anything except skip entire ranges of faces within families... I can't tell you how weird this behavior is to designers who are used to working with font menus in literally every other design program on earth.
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Top menu. Type>Font preview size>None turns of the flicking previews and just displays the font you finally hover over/select
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I want to have the ability to turn off the live font preview. Why is that too much to ask, Adobe?
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You can turn it off. Go to Type > Font Preview Size > None. And reboot Photoshop.
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This turns off the sample font preview in the menu — not on the type block in the document window that has current focus.
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George Gruel

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PLEASE hierarchical font menus with trying some hooks pooches with the shift and arrow key
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To me, InDesign CC has almost the perfect Character Palette menu.
• Hierarchical
• Ability to select and filter favorites
• Most recently used
• Rollover in the menu has no effect on the type object with focus in the document
(I'd remove the Add Fonts From Typekit button from here and leave it just in the menubar menu. Because clutter.)
(I'd also de-emphasize the unselected favorite stars. Because clutter.)
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I agree. Why is Photoshop not like InDesign. And please whatever you do Adobe don't put a major kink in InDesign fonts like you've done with Photoshop
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@David
I suppose I should put my input in since I started this thread. The issue I originally described is no longer a Major issue. It happens very rarely for me and I deal with dozens of different files daily.
Though it does still happen. Usually a quick reboot of Photoshop does the trick but sometimes the problem is everlasting until I switch the font using the type tools up top, close the file, reboot Photoshop then re-open the file.
When the issue does occur it's not the main issue but rather a byproduct of a bigger issue I have extremely frequently. I've detailed my issue in another thread on the adobe forums posted here: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1623001
Basically what happens is at random intervals Photoshop will lag. By that, I don't mean slow down performance wise. Everything is smooth and as fast as ever. But the panels on the right-hand size are slow to update what's going on. For example: If I have a document open with say 10 layers in it and I close it to open a second document with only 2 layers, the previous 10 layers will still be showing. At first. Once I click on them they vanish but then the layer I have active and I am currently editing isn't the layer that's highlighted in the panel.

I don't want to go to far into it since its not technically related to this issue but I wanted to mention it since when That happens, the font list issue described in my original post above, in the Character Panel happens. They seem to be related some how.

But as to answer your question if I am still having the issue, not really, is all I can say. I still haven't found a document that can continuously produce the issue and when I have I tried opening it on another Mac and it opens and runs fine. It's really strange and from my perspective appears to be random.

Thank you
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I have also had this problem, but I would like to offer up something that I did that managed to fix it enough for me to get my work completed!

I am using Windows 7, Photoshop CC 2014.2.1

Character Window Text selection with font preview allows you to scroll using either the mouse wheel or the scroll bar, but then movement over the font list reverts back to the previously selected font.

I have a duel monitor display, and I can see when I run PS full screen on my left monitor, the font list changes in width as it previews different fonts (moving the scroll bar with it) I Undocked the Character window from its place, and moved it to the center of the screen to test if that was an issue. It stopped immediately.
I re-docked the Character window and it has continued to work correctly today.
So far, I have restarted photoshop since this, and it still seems OK.

I personally think (and I am guessing) that this is a UI issue. I had issues with previous versions of Photoshop when running Full screen at a high resolution (2560x1440) where the UI just did lot like it at all!. Had to make the window smaller so it didn't freak out.

Hope this helps anyone out there that was as frustrated as I was....
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This is the most annoying feature I have ever experienced in a Photoshop update.

Browsing fonts with the scroll wheel is now completely impossible, since I have many fonts installed, and for some reason each style is listed in the font family section - even though there is a style selector right next to it! This means scrolling through literally thousands of options, all while PS is rendering font previews in my document.

I agree with some other people here that InDesign and even Illustrator both have much more useful and intuitive font selection tools. I have had to change my entire workflow now due to this awful feature, and as a 10+ year photoshop user, it's driving me crazy.

Just wanted to rant like everyone else here and hope they change it back to how it was, or at least give an option.

Or why not make the same tools across all CC products behave THE SAME? Does that not make sense? I don't get it...
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I couldn't have said it better myself. Having all available styles for each font listed seprately in the main list (when there's a drop menu for it right next door) is BEYOND retarded. I would love to hear the logic behind integrating such an ill-conceived feature.
And so now that I'm scrolling through thousands of fonts instead of about two hundred, I get to bog my system down even further with redundant (and quite unecessary) font previews. I don't have to think very hard about what Times New Roman will look like if it's bolded. Just the one preview will be fine, thank you. AND - I should have to click on it to preview it. AND - I miss using my arrow keys to scroll through.. which was something I did multiple times a day, every day. Seriously, every day. I design slot machine graphics for a living.

Adobe I beg you, fix this. I will bake you cookies.
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and I'll bring lots of sugar butter and flour and help bake
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same with me.
scrolling down the font preview with the pen is nearly impossible. if you just slightly loose track on the scroll handle, or the drop down-window expands (to give the font previews space) to the right, the cursor position moves into the previews, and steps back to the originally selected font - so it's not possible to select anotherone.
changing the settings (as described above) just tempered the problem. even switching to the mouse (which means a annoying break in my workflow) doesn't cure it.
(using: Windows 7E SP1, PS CC'14 with a Wacom cintiq21UX)

PS: my anger concering the login-process to post this text is king-kong-chatching-planes-like :-((((
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Same problem and it's driving me crazy! And even though this issue is as old as CC 2014, nobody from Adobe seems to care!

Another problem with this fonts menu: I type in the font I need, but the first letter gets overwritten by the second. So for example, I want the font "Open Sans", I type "open", but it reads and guides me to "pen". This one is driving me up the wall just as much.

Please, Adobe, sit down and do some work on this fonts menu!
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Adobe seems to making the Photoshop UI fonts menu dumbed down for grade school students. I agree. Adobe doesn't give a rats behind about this. I give up..
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Yes, this font menu is nothing but trouble. A task that should have taken me 10 minutes this morning (changing the fonts on a small ad) is lapsing into Google research and trying to figure out how to stop the madness. I am experiencing all the issues folks discuss above. I don't need a preview. My fonts, font selecting and changing fonts in existing documents works perfectly in all programs except the "new, improved" (not!) Photoshop. Running iMac, CC 2014 with Photoshop 2014.2.2 My 10 minutes is now 35 minutes. I'm going to see if I still have an older Photoshop version on my computer to switch to.
I did what the person above suggested and turned off Font Preview. That did nothing. Please change the font menu back or at least let us be able to turn off this totally annoying and useless feature. Thanks.
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Font menu works like a dream in Photoshop CS6! Job done in under 5 minutes.
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You are correct. This is a family web site so I won't use the words I'd like to to describe how mad I am at Adobe for what they've done to the font menus. Totally anti-productive. They are dumbing it down for learners, I guess. It's beyond lame and it really screws with my work flow. I'm about to give up. No one from Adobe has been able to explain to me why it's better. It's beyond frustrating!!!!!!!
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tell Adobe.
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Suzanne Sky

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Hoping someone from Adobe reads this. I will let them know for sure. It's unacceptable - very shoddy quality; nonfunctional, etc. etc.....
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George Gruel

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I've been using PS since version 1. I beta tested version 2.5 (code name Merlin). I use PS everyday. The font menu snafu saddens me. WHY? What ucking good is it?
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this makes me want to roll back to a previous version on PS. this is what i get for not NOT pirating PS now. WTF!!!!!
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Aargh!! This is impossible to use. Every single time a new typeface needs to be chosen, it is actually more convenient to open the file in previous version of PS and choose the font there.

Biggest problem is that "each style is listed in the font family section". No offence but that is just...