Photoshop: Better Grain filter in Photoshop

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It would be great if Photoshop was implemented a good grain filter - similar to the one used in Lightroom.

For example sometimes while retouching pictures with a grain it would be useful to add grain similar to the original grain to the retouched parts.

Additionaly I sometimes publish pictures out of photoshop without lightroom inbetween - so I have to imitate grain in different tricky ways.

Would be great to have a better grain filter out of the box.
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edward.caruso

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filter - add noise
or

even better - make a pattern from the actual image grain, high pass, change that to overlay - and you have the same grain.
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POWALOWSKI

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Thank you - your solution is handcrafting grain.

The noise Filter has always a tiny radius what makes him hard to use.
Creating different patterns for different grains is no neat solution either.

Do you know the LR / Camera Raw way of adding grain? Great.
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more control over the nose or a new grain filter would be great.
radius, strength, color noise and separate control for shadow, mid tone and highlight.

now i need to use slow third parity tools. this should be essential for ps.
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And the point is, that LR already contains a better Grain functionality - so could be just a matter of porting it to Photoshop, hopefully making implementation easier.
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Lightroom simplifies alot of things that can be done manually with more control in PS. And that's fine - Adobe would like you to buy both programs. Lightroom has some nice features for organizing and finishing pictures like grain and vignetting.
I much prefer something like Alien Skin's Exposure for those effects - they are really done well and worth the price. They might very well add a grain filter to PS but that will be in another version that you will have to upgrade for.

Now about grain - making your own is so easy - I have an action that does it - all I have to do is draw a marquee and a pattern is created. For an image I might need different grain for different areas - one for skin texture, others for garments, and others for sky or background. LR's impementation wouldn't be able to handle that. I feel that using the actual image grain is the best way to go.
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My main point about the workarounds is that i don't have a consistent non-destructive way to accomplish pretty grain.
I actually try to work as non-destructive as possible with my pictures as this established for me to be the most flexible way to work with image files.

I usually do it with a grey "soft light" Smart-object i put a noise and a blur on to adjust size and roughness.

Would be handy to have one Smart Filter where you can easily readjust settings at one place. The partial grain application you mentioned would also be possible with Smart Filters. Would clean some layer mess for me:-)

What do you think?
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alien skin exposure is kind of non-destructive - you have to copy merge a new layer then smart object that one. reopening it will give you the alien skin dialogue.

so yes using the plugin will keep all of the settings adjustable and in one place. its not cheap software but lightyears better than anything PS offers out of the box. I usually like to do effects manually but this plugin has so many features and effects, they really put alot of research into it. you can use it in LR too.
i do recommend checking out making your own patterns for grain and other things. once I learned I use it for alot of stuff.
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The point is - we would welcome a better > out of the box < implementation in photoshop. Giving us possibility to avoid third party tools and fiddling around with patterns and stuff.

Right? :-)

As third party tool I sometimes use ColorEfex. But also here: not so handy to fiddle around with tif copies, freezing adjustments in LR.
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POWALOWSKI

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This will be obsolete in Photoshop CCs CameraRAW as Adjustment layer feature.

I think this request can be closed :-)
Thank you Adobe for planing to lift non-destructive workflow to a new level.
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Photoshop CC can use Camera Raw as a smart filter, not as an adjustment layer.
It may be useful to have noise be implemented as a fill layer like solid color, gradient and Pattern . It would also be useful as a layer effect.
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POWALOWSKI

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CR filter does pretty much do the deal. Nevertheless going through a smart layer and activating this big slow smart filter can be little annoying for only adding some grain. Would welcome the grain feature separately as layer effect. Great idea.
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This needs to be given a proper, dedicated filter. Why not? The blur gallery has a great grain effect within it, which is similar but slightly better than the one in Camera Raw however is limited exclusively to where blur appears. We know Adobe can do it they just have always included it as a subfilter instead of what it should be. Unless it is actually in there and I haven't discovered it?