Photoshop: Why change the crop tool in CS6? How can I get the old behavior back?

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Why did the crop method change? For so many years, cropping worked by moving the crop frame in the image. Now, you have to move the image around the crop frame. For those of us who actually came out of the darkroom, the new way is awkward. Why did it have to change?
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What is this??? There is no way to crop to directly to certain pixel resolution on photoshop CC??? Who felt like need of adding extra clicks to manually image size each image? This is UX nightmare. Please go back to previous version with crop window and chance to define pixel size. This is IDIOTIC!!! WHY?
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Select "W x H x Resolution" from the popup in the options bar and you will get the same unit-based width, height, and resolution input fields, which operate the same as they did in CS6.
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Tai, Took me a second to figure out what you meant, but now I get it. In the crop options pick on the size box and pick on the size and resolution line and enter a set size. You can use the shortcut R while you are in the crop mode. Once you do, you can operate the crop tool as you used to do. You just need to set up the different variations that you normally use and then pick your default. You can also delete the weird ratio size defaults like 2x3(4x6). Thanks Tai
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CC_2014.

I've used the PSD since 2.0. The new crop tool isn't working well IMO. The old saying - 'don't fix it if it isn't broken' applies here I believe. The "improvements" are welcome as long as the original functionality isn't compromised. Rotating an image 'behind' the cropping boundaries instead of the contrary is unnecessary change and counterproductive IMO.

The task: to set a selection of constrained size (not proportions) relative to the image's resolution and drag that selection into the part of the image intended for cropping. Then, allow to straighten that area and crop it while the originally constrained size of the cropped are is kept.

If this simple task is somehow possible in CC 2014, please educate me.
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Hi Roman,

> Rotating an image 'behind' the cropping boundaries instead of the contrary is unnecessary change and counterproductive IMO.

The "Use Classic Mode" option will change that behavior for you.

> set a selection of constrained size (not proportions) relative to the image's resolution

Pick "W x H x Resolution" in the options bar popup

> drag that selection into the part of the image intended for cropping

This should behave as you expect if "Use Classic Mode" is checked. If it is not checked and you want to start the drag outside the canvas, you may need to hold down the Shift key when you start the drag.

> allow to straighten that area and crop it while the originally constrained size of the cropped are is kept.


If you want to keep the crop box from shrinking to fit inside the original image when you rotate or straighten, hold down the Control key when you rotate or release the straighten tool (Control is the standard "inhibit snap" key in Photoshop).

Hope that helps.
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I posted this elsewhere, but I hope someone at Adobe pays attention, because I have to use CS6 at work:

I know this is late, but I use an earlier PS version at home. At work, I use CS6 and I absolutely HATE the crop tool. The earlier version was so utterly simple and uncluttered and allowed me to easily decide EXACTLY where I wanted to crop my photo. Now it's a major annoyance having the always click Control-H to hide the marquis that obscures the outer edge of the image every time I use the crop tool, and if I undo the crop, the marquis is back. Tools are supposed to work for you, not against you. Why can't the REAL classic crop tool be an option. I would much prefer the CS2 or even Photoshop 7 or earlier version of what used to be a simple and efficient tool!
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Dan, I don't know if they care anymore. I do not like the fact that I have to purchase a yearly subscription if I want the latest features. I'm sticking with CS6 and have to live with the crop. I thought I realized a work around, but it still was not like the old. Well said many times over....
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Thanks, Dave. I had not upgraded my home version since CS2 - mostly because it's now too late to upgrade one or two versions. I was even considering buying a new version of CS5, but that's not even available, and I don't want a monthly subscription. That said, CS2 works fine for most of my needs, and I do also use the standalone version of Lightroom.
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Dave - I have CS6 from an upgrade from CS 5.5.

So, I am able to have both PS 5.5 and PS 6 loaded on my computer. So when I'm cropping I can use 5.5 and it's great.

It's still really makes me mad that they don't make classic mode for crop in CS6 exactly how it used to be.

Good luck...Dan
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Dan, thanks for the suggestion. I might have to go look for my install for 5. Hopefully you can load an earlier version under a newer one. Thanks again. -=Dave=-
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Can someone post a video or screenshots showing the cropping difference from before and after CS6? Or at least clearly describe it.

This theard is so long that it's not possible for me to find the answer even if there is for my question.

Ps.1 was old CS5 crop method brought back to some later CC release, or at least added that there are old and new way to do it?

Ps.2 maybe I didn't investigate it enough much but I don't like when I press 'c' key for cropping it makes cropping area on the image. Problem is that I can make a new area inside of default area, but I can't 'draw' it from outside of already displayed (but not touched yet) cropping area, as it's going to rotate that area.

a) is there way to make new cropping area drawing it from outside of current area?

b) when I want to move crop area to other place on image I have to initially press arrow key, then I can hold left mouse button inside crop area to move it. Is there way to do it wihout involving keyboard?

c) wasn't that (a & b) possible in Creative Suite release from before CS6 EXTENDED?


btw I used CS2 for long time then CS5.1 some time (and tried releases between them too) and I remember I noticed the change in cropping that I considered to by inconvinient, but to be honest I'm not sure now how one differed from second. I also stil use CS6 as CC I have access to are too buggy for me in some important for me parts, so I'm not aware was cropping problem solved in them.
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Kukurykus,
If you check "Enable Classic Mode" under the gear icon, the suggested crop rectangle won't show up automatically when you press C, and you'll get behavior that is close to the pre-CS6 behavior.

The Shift key will allow you to drag out a new crop rectangle, ignoring the existing one.

I don't understand your reference about needing to press the left arrow key before repositioning the crop area. You should be able to drag to reposition without using the keyboard.
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OMG! That was so easy, I use Ps for so long and I had no idea that can be done by holding shift, I mean creating new crop area over existing one starting from outside of it!

Regarding using arrow key before possibility to move crop rectangle I don't see other option how to do it. When I press c key then using left mouse button inside rectangle area will make another crop area. If I wanted to first be able to move it I had first either use arrow key or click on corner.

What is the way to do it directly, so like pressin c key and dragging crop area in no time?
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Oh, I think I understand now. When you first switch to the Crop Tool (not in Classic Mode) and you get the dotted-line "suggested" crop rectangle, a simple click will active it in place. So click-release to activate, then click-drag to reposition.
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OK, but now there is another, last problem. I don't remember how that was in previous releases, but while I'm not beeing in Classic Mode I click and release LMB then I cannot drag crop area but canvas. How to do it I can drag crop area only? I think there is no way for it until I switch mode to 'Modern', but then I have to create crop area as it's not displayed after pressing 'c' button yet.
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With the newer behavior, the crop box remains centered and level, and you move and rotate the image. If you prefer to move and rotate the crop box instead, then you have to enable Classic Mode, but in Classic Mode you don't get the suggested crop box when switching to the Crop Tool, you have to drag it out yourself. You'll have to decide which you prefer :)
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Why then not to introduce third mode that features old one and new one partially. By checkboxes users can decide how they prefer to use crop tool, so for example the way we're getting suggested crop box but with possibility to move not canvas but a box?
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