Photoshop elements open in camera raw

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Beeing inside organizer, selecting a raw image, open with elements opens up camera raw... well fine? After exit from camera raw and inside elements, then selecting file open in camera raw does not open the image but opens a filemanager box.
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Michel BRETECHER, Champion

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Yes. That is exactly what is expected. That enables you to open another file directly from the editor.
What are you doing from the ACR window? Click on 'Open', 'Done', 'Cancel' ?

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What is expected, maybe you are right since its in the file menu....

Photoshop elements in the "file" menu we have 2 options

1. Open - selecting a raw file will automatically open camera raw.

2. Open in camera raw - selecting any file jpg etc. will open it in camera raw.

When I have opened a raw file, finished editing in camera raw the image ends up in elements - there is no way of going back to camera raw quickly for additional small adjustments, you will need to close the image and start all over. Maybe better interaction between camera raw and elements?


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No, because ACR is a raw conversion module, which means it converts the raw file into an image format with various editing tools and saves the recipe in a sidecar xmp text file without changing anything in the original (raw converters never change the original raw file). That's true for any converter. And you can't transform an image file into a raw format. You only re-convert the original raw with other slider settings. Only the recipe is saved.
That 'parametric' editing means that if you want to further edit in pixel editor like the PSE editor, you have to create an image format that the editor can read. In most converters, there is an option to export a file with the settings applied, generally a .tif file. In PSE, the conversion is made in memory, not saved on the disk via the 'Open' button.

The 'Open in camera raw' option can open some non raw image file formats, like jpeg, psd, tif. Of course, it does not 'convert' the non-raw file but it offers the same editing tools you are used to when editing raw files. The ACR works in a parametric mode like with raws. The 'opened as' file is never changed and the edits are saved in xmp files or in the metadata section of the jpeg or psd...
There are many workflow advantages in that option, even if that does not offer the power of the raw conversion.

So, it does not make sense to think you can switch back and forth from the ACR module to the editor and that's true for any converter. You either keep the parametric editing idea and don't save a file format from the PSE editor, then reprocess at will ('done' button), or you 'open' in PSE and save a new version. You can 'open as' that edited version in ACR, but it's a different file with all the previous edits 'cooked' in and those previous edits are not accessible to the new version. So, if you are editing a converted raw file in the PSE pixel editor, you'll have to save that edited version and 'open as' separately if you want to continue editing with the ACR tools and sliders.

Note that if you need or like to edit any layer with your usual tools in ACR, there are useful scripts available in an affordable add-on package, Elements+. For instance you can use masks to blend various layers. For instance you can optimize a portrait within a landscape.