Photoshop Elements 16 - Lost great feature

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We have used Photoshop Elements for years to create nice slide shows for our family.  We could add music put notes into slides. 

Then BOOM paid to upgrade the latest version and the slide show feature has been render completely useless!  Put in slides, select one song and that is it. 

What are you guys thinking.  I have been loyal to your product and then you do this.

It is like you took extra work to remove the reason I bought your product years ago.

Well Google Photos looks like my new way to do this. 

Please bring it back.
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Michel BRETECHER, Champion

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You can add your vote in this post:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/elements-13-slideshow-unable-t-osupport-upgra...

The  reasons for changing were:
- compatibility with the 64 bits versions of Elements
- support for Macs.
- mostly, support for higher resolution and MP4 format
You can no longer customize the slideshow which is very basic. For more advanced features, you would need to use Premiere Elements. Since 'upgrades' are totally new and independent versions, people generally keep the old 'customized and low res' Elements version together with the new 'basic and high res' one.
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Bernard, this complaint is for Photoshop Element 16.  Did you mean Elements 15?   

Michel, your refer-to-post has complaints that are 2 years old covering versions 13 and 14, but not 16.  I'm not sure if there is a version 16 yet.  Could you start a new post for Elements 16 in the future?  And then, carry over Bernard's complaint to that forum.   

Bernard I think your complaint would be beneficial to others on another forum and Michel is very good at this.  If you did mean it was about version 15, that should be addressed, here.   

This post will address many complaints about Elements 15 slide shows and its add-on's. 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2290198
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This post has an answer about songs in a slide show in Elements 15.  
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2296142

As for myself, it's been a long time since I made a slide show and I cannot remember when it was I made one in Photoshop, but I think it was version 12 or 10.  I used to make slide shows on a regular basis.  I have utilized 3 programs for this, two outside of Photoshop, and most are very similar.  I know your pain Bernard.  Having music for a slide show background keeps the audience seated.  I think we need a special forum just for Adobe Slide Shows but the version number needs to be there too.   

Steve Lehman, mcse responding.
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Steve,
I am pretty sure that Elements 16 is a typo... We are still at version 15.

Yes, I think the change for the slideshow appeared in version 13, but I am not at home now and can't verify. As you can see from the number of posts and votes about this feature in the feedback as well as the user to user forum, it's a big concern for many people.
In my first answer in the present discussion, I am sure that two reasons were given by Adobe: the support for Macs (missing in previous versions) and the high resolution MP4 output. I can't find any support for the 64-bits reason... so take it as a personal hypothesis. However it seems logical to me that a totally new module will be programmed from scratch for the current hardware and OS 64-bits platforms?

The present feedback complaint calls for a number of questions that only Adobe can answer. From external observers like me, you can ask yourself the following questions?
- Is there a real technical reason that it's hard to provide all old features (pan and zoom, choices of transitions, slide duration...) as well as support for MP4 and Macs? I think it's a big job. At first, users did hope that the current version was only a simplified version and that new Elements 14 and 15 would add the missing features... that did not happen... yet.
- Is there a marketing reason? For instance, Adobe gets info about the real use of the features of Elements from the majority of users. There may be only a very small part of the user base which does care for the old features. Maybe the current user base requires absolutely high resolution MP4. Another marketing reason is the fact that there is a big function overlapping between Elements, Photoshop, Premiere Elements... and Lightroom. If you were Adobe, what would you choose as features for the 'consumer product'?

So, for the present PSE15, if you want to stay with Adobe products, the advice given in the forums (including Premiere Elements) were:
- to keep also the old Elements version
- to upgrade to Lightroom (slightly better in my experience)
- to buy the Premiere Elements companion... and invest in learning the software with great support in its forum. Really advanced solution, but additional external tools for audio may be useful.

Even for people  choosing an external slideshow editor, preparing the 'assets' for the project is made easy in current versions with the organizer (same in Lightoom). You can export your files at the optimal size, renamed in your custom order, with added text, with text transition slides etc.

On a personal note, I remember slideshows from Ektachrome 6 x 6 slides played on two carrousels and projected on the big screens of movie houses with synchronized music and comments; more than 30 years back! That was magical.
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I use Elements 12 and just purchased a new computer. I was considering an upgrade to 15.  But, I use the slideshow function in the organizer at least once or twice a month.  I guess I'm not upgrading.
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Feature regression is the symptom of a dysfunctional product engineering team. Usually drives the marketing team nuts. The PSE engineering team is known for whacko feature regression brain-farts, like the lighting filter, for example. The least they could do is full disclosure when trying to sell you the upgrade that is missing a feature. <sigh>
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"The least they could do is full disclosure when trying to sell you the upgrade that is missing a feature. "
See that faq:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1302663
The main change was for Elements 12, we are towards the end of Elements 15 and the reasons have beed explained above.  Dropping a feature which is totally obsolete (no high definition MP4) is a sensible marketing decision. Not introducing a replacement is debatable, but also a marketing decision.

Your tone looks like one from an angry marketing man, cursing the develish techicians who don't understand the customer.
Please, don't take pleasure in using emphatic marketing tone to insult the poor PSE team which is for nothing in the choice of features.

The 'culprits' are the marketing bosses at Adobe who know how to make money from a wide range of softwares in which Elements is just a near negligible part.  Why make Elements offer a lot of features available in other lucrative softwares, Lightroom, Premiere Elements or Pro etc ?

Also, do you think it's positive on a marketing point of view to stress the limitations introduced in much older versions? I should know, I have been in marketing in the past...
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I use elements 15 to create slide shows with music and notes.  I think you may need to get to the right starting point.  Go to the organizer, then select your photos.  Click Create at the top right of the screen and choose slide show at the bottom.  Everything should be available that you had before.  I had some trouble finding it too.
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Everything? Like setting the transition effects, slide duration, pan and zoom?
Of course, you can do much if you use Premiere Elements.
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Some of these, and maybe even Organizer, only sets up a slide show but doesn't "movie" it.  For that, I use Windows Media Player.  I have used other slide show makers which only sets up the slides.   Adobe has Premiere which can also run it but you would still need to setup the slides.  As Michel mentioned, you will need to setup transitions between slides (2 seconds) and the type of transitions, plus the show intervals (2 seconds).   Figure 4 seconds per slide.  So for a one hour show, you will need 900 photos to captivate a a restless audience before they throw beer cans at ya.   

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This blog post about Elements "18" is interesting.
http://blogs.adobe.com/creative/introducing-adobe-photoshop-elements-2018-premiere-elements-2018/

Edit:  Added link to video:
Here in a video describing the two major new features in Photoshop Elements 18.  At the end of the video you get a upgrade recommendation based on what version you use now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zcsabYOag
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