Elements 13.1 on Windows 7, Panoramas often fail

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I have had great success generating panoramas using Photomerge Panorama using Photoshop Elements 13.
Yesterday I downloaded Photoshop Elements 13.1 to my Windows 7 PC.
I have had occasional success with panoramas, but most times it fails, reverting back to the first image of the series of images I wanted to merge.
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I would guess it is running out of memory or the panorama is wider than the 30,000 pixel limit for images in Elements Editor:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-ele...
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I have never had this problem before on the same computer, Intel i7-2600 CPU 8GB RAM, with larger panoramas using Photoshop Elements 13.0 or earlier versions of of Photoshop Elements.
The problem arose yesterday when I installed Elements 13.1.
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How many images are you stitching and how wide is each and how much overlap? Is it conceivable that the panorama is wider than 30,000?

If you want you can upload all the individual JPGs to a gallery on www.dropbox.com, post a public link to that gallery, here, and I'll download and try them on my computer, in PSE and in PS because PS can deal with images larger than 30,000 pixels.
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Six portrait images, each 3264 pixels wide.
Well below 30,000 pixels.
I had success using the RAW images and got one version using the REPOSITION option https://www.dropbox.com/s/9iy8gn20oxk... .
I have had better results using RAW.
I wanted to use AUTO option to see if the results improved and it consistently failed.
I tried other options and they failed as well.
I tried it just now using JPGs and AUTO, it failed again.
Here are the JPGs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8zsnci4nlo...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ewxuo9ezmwt...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/57xyavoxqzg...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iw0g64ualev...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbpec3he79l...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6v30fnsm5hl...

Until now I have found the creation of Panoramas using 13.0 trouble free.
As soon as I installed 13.1 the troubles began.

Thanks for your help,
Martin
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I asked for a gallery on dropbox so I could download all the images as one zipfile, but I managed to get them one-by-one since there were only six.

I am able to stitch the panorama in PSE 13.1 x64 using Auto. Here is a screenshot of the images and the three panoramas in the PhotoBin, with the various options I chose underneath each:



You might check Help / System Info... and make sure you're running the x64 version of PSE not the 32-bit version which will have much less memory available.

Here is the top of my System Info for comparison:

Adobe Photoshop Elements Version: 13.0 (13.1 (20150130.m.66724)) x64
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Version: 6.1 Service Pack 1
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:14, Stepping:5 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, HyperThreading
Physical processor count: 4
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2660 MHz
Built-in memory: 8126 MB
Free memory: 4242 MB
Memory available to Photoshop Elements: 7070 MB
Memory used by Photoshop Elements: 70 %
Image tile size: 1024K
Image cache levels: 6
Font Preview: Medium
TextComposer: Latin
Display: 1
Display Bounds: top=0, left=0, bottom=1050, right=1680
Display: 2
Display Bounds: top=-364, left=1680, bottom=1316, right=2730
OpenGL Drawing: Disabled.
License Type: Perpetual
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 13\
Temporary file path: C:\Users\ssprenge\AppData\Local\Temp\
Photoshop Elements scratch has async I/O enabled
Scratch volume(s):
Startup, 279.1G, 26.8G free
Required Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 13\Required\Plug-Ins\
Primary Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 13\Plug-Ins\
Additional Plug-ins folder: not set
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I have always used the 64 bit version.
Adobe Photoshop Elements Version: 13.0 (13.1 (20150130.m.66724)) x64
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Version: 6.1 Service Pack 1
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:10, Stepping:7 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, HyperThreading
Physical processor count: 4
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 3392 MHz
Built-in memory: 8169 MB
Free memory: 1205 MB
Memory available to Photoshop Elements: 7091 MB
Memory used by Photoshop Elements: 70 %
Image tile size: 1024K
Image cache levels: 6
Font Preview: Medium
TextComposer: Latin
Display: 1
Display Bounds: top=0, left=0, bottom=1080, right=1920
OpenGL Drawing: Disabled.
License Type: Perpetual
Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 13\
Temporary file path: C:\Users\MartinS\AppData\Local\Temp\
Photoshop Elements scratch has async I/O enabled
Scratch volume(s):
Startup, 931.4G, 658.1G free
Required Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 13\Required\Plug-Ins\
Primary Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 13\Plug-Ins\
Additional Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Topaz Labs\

Is it feasible for me to back up to Elements 13.0. I had not problems with that?
This is very frustrating!
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I just shut down Elements, re-opened, loaded the JPEG's, tried to create a panorama AUTO and it failed once more!
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I just processed the RAW files using my copy of Photoshop Elements 12, using the AUTO option, it performed flawlessly, so it appears the computer isn't the problem.
It appears Elements 13.1 is my problem, or my copy of it!
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It could be that a plug-in is interfering. Try removing Topaz from your Additional Plug-ins Folder, temporarily, restart and see if things work better.

Otherwise, the main thing different between your and my System Info is that I have several more GB of memory free. I did mine just after opening Elements, and perhaps yours was done with many images open.

It may be that the PSE13 trial is still 13.0 not 13.1: http://www.adobe.com/downloads.html
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Ok, so it's not a memory problem.

Is the Extra Plug-ins folder pointing to the Topaz plug-ins or is it not specified?
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Yes, Topaz: (copied and pasted below)
"Additional Plug-ins folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Topaz Labs\"
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So disable Additional Plug-ins Folder temporarily in PSE / Editor / Expert / Edit / Preferences / Plug-ins. Restart PSE13.1 and see if things work differently. It wouldn't be the first time that Topaz plug-ins messed something up.
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Steve,
Thanks! That seems to have done it!
I had some other things to do today and just had a chance to try your suggestion.
Does than mean I have to continually disable Topaz if I want to do panoramas?
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I spoke too soon! One success then two fails!
I tried shutting down and re-starting PSE 13.1 between the fails with no success.
I just got back from a vacation with about 2000 RAW images a possible 20 panoramas I want to process.
I think my best bet is to use PSE 12 for my panos ... it works consistently!
I am very disappointed by PSE 13.1! I want to work on my photography and not have to fight my photo editing software.
I appreciate your help Steve, but we are making only temporary progress!
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I am having the same problems. I was working through the Adobe photoshop elements 13 Classroom in a book. But when I try the Photomerge Panaorna it makes the Photomerge, But before the Clean Edge popup is displayed everything disaprears.
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I once again followed Steve's suggestion:
"So disable Additional Plug-ins Folder temporarily in PSE / Editor / Expert / Edit / Preferences / Plug-ins. Restart PSE13.1 and see if things work differently. It wouldn't be the first time that Topaz plug-ins messed something up"
I temporarily disable the Topaz plug-in and I am able to do panos.
Not sure if you are using Topaz, but I suggest you try that if it applies to you.
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I have not Additional Plug-ins

All of the various Photomere Panorama types work in PSE 13

I can get both the Perspective and Repostion to work with PSE 13